what if the I 864A was a joint?

[Givemegoodnews 9]

Im the sponsor with no income intending to use parents joint tax return to meet income requirements

if their income came only from my fathers business, does my mother need to do an I864A too since they filed jointly?

or is an I864A from my father sufficient since the income is his?

thanks!

[Anh map 2,098]

You have zero income so your joint sponsor will do an I-864 as well.

There have been instances where an interviewing officer has asked for an I-864a from a joint sponsor's spouse simply as an acknowledgement of the sponsorship obligation. Since the joint sponsor is a petitioner's parent, it's less likely that would occur.

For a self employed person the income amount used is line 22 of their most recent (2011 in this case) tax return.

[Givemegoodnews 9]

hey thanks

these are household members so do they need to do a seperate 864 or just the 864A

and does my mother list 0 income or the same income on the joint return?

thanks alot

[Anh map 2,098]

You complete an I-864. Dad completes an I-864. Each of you supplies all the needed documentation for your individual affidavit of support.

Mom shouldn't need to do anything. Mom's income (from what you state) is zero.

[Givemegoodnews 9]

thanks again but i forgot to tell you i live with my parents

so they wouldnt be joint sponsors but household members

essentially requiring an 864A

but heres where im confused; my father has 3 dependents , where do i list them?

[Anh map 2,098]

thanks again but i forgot to tell you i live with my parents

so they wouldnt be joint sponsors but household members

essentially requiring an 864A

but heres where im confused; my father has 3 dependents , where do i list them?

I-864A isn't appropriate in this instance.

You do an I-864. Dad does an I-864. Dad lists his household count on his I-864.

Your household is you + intending immigrant + any children that you two may have.

[Givemegoodnews 9]

I-864A isn't appropriate in this instance.

You do an I-864. Dad does an I-864. Dad lists his household count on his I-864.

Your household is you + intending immigrant + any children that you two may have.

Im sorry but why isnt an I864A appropriate? They live with me as household members, and in the I864A one of the options is a parent.

Edited June 21, 2012 by Givemegoodnews

[Penguin_ie 5,992]

Just because you live in the same house does not mean you are household members for tax purposes. A I-864A is only appropriate for those who are financially linked- such as having joint taxes, or being dependants. Therefor, your dad fills in a I-864 and your mom a I-864A.

Edited June 21, 2012 by Penguin_ie

[Givemegoodnews 9]

I see thank you so much ,

just one last question ,

since I lived with my parents , but Im not a dependent on their taxes, do they list me as part of their household?

and if my parents have 3 dependents , what do I show on my I-864 household size?

thanks again and sorry for the many questions , its just confusing.

[Penguin_ie 5,992]

You show just yourself and your husband.

Your parents need not show you on their I-864 if you are financially independent / they have not taken a tax deduction for you as their dependant. If your parents have three minor kids or other dependants (disabled parents etc), then their household is parents 2+ dependants 3+ immigrant= 6

[Anh map 2,098]

Im sorry but why isnt an I864A appropriate? They live with me as household members, and in the I864A one of the options is a parent.

You have zero income. I-864A is when a household member's income will supplement a petitioner's shortfall. In your case for the sponsorship you are relying 100% on your joint sponsor. Therefore your joint sponsor's household responsibilities need to be fully disclosed. The I-864 gives that full disclosure.

No need to risk the delay that would come from the interviewing officer requesting more info about an I-864A joint sponsor. Supply the 864 and that's one less worry at the interview.

[Givemegoodnews 9]

wonderful thank you so much !