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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Denmark
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How does your home country know you have taken on US citizenship?

Theoretically it's done automatically by taking the oath or seeking/applying for citizenship in another country.

I know Denmark has several stages, the first one is when you have lived overseas for more than 2 years, meaning you've abandonded your residency. Manually revoking residency before leaving(there's a form for it) meaning giving up "the yellow card"(health insurance card and SSN) and all the perks that come with it such as free treatment at hospitals, free libraries and everything the card's magnetic field is used for(which is ALOT!). Recently, what's equivilant to IRS, started doing random checks in airports so see if anyone was misusing the residency and/or citizenship, mostly due to taxes, eg. DK citizens living overseas for many years. You cannot have your citizenship revoked when you're born into it or you automatically receive one from another country without applying for it.

One thing to keep in mind is that some countries have a complete registry of its citizens. If I became a US citizen I wouldn't be able to do anything in Denmark with Danish ID anyways since none of them would be valid. Claiming to be a citizen when you're not may have some severe consequences, especially if one is planning on visiting or later in life or re-applying for citizenship.

This is Denmark, I know. Norway is similar.

K1 process, October 2010 > POE, July 2011

I-129F approved in 180 days from NOA1 date. (195 days from filing to NOA2 in hand)

Interview took 224 days from I-129F NOA1 date. (241 days from filing petition until visa in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until POE: 285 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

AOS process, December 2011 > July 2012

EAD/AP Approval took 51 days from NOA1 date to email update. (77 days from filing until EAD/AP in hand)

AOS Approval took 206 days from NOA1 date to email update. (231 days from filing until greencard in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until greencard in hand: 655 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Tricky one, not sure I would do it if I had to give up my UKC.

Otherwise it is not usually a biggie.

Assuming you are above the age to be drafted.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Japan
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jury duty...

What? So Green Card holder doesn't need to do jury duty?? or... we don't have a "privilege" of doing it... :dance:

Married May 2011

10/07/2011: NOA1

12/15/2011: NOA2

01/12/2012: NVC case number arrived

01/13/2012: DS-3032 emailed

01/27/2012: Barcode arrived via e-mail

03/06/2012: I-864&DS-230 sent together

03/13/2012: RFE

04/16/2012: Additional documents sent

05/02/2012: NVC case complete

05/14/2012: Medical

06/04/2012: Interview--->approved

06/05/2012: Visa arrived in mail

LAX POE Review

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Very helpful insights guys, thank you!

As for my Norwegian citizenship, it would be part sentimental, part ease of travel (especially in Europe), part if my wife and I ever wanted to move back, and part because I'd have my God given right to Norwegian retirement money lol.

At the same time, I couldn't imagine a life of never being a citizen of the country I'd call home, and moving to a new country I do think it's important to become a part of that country as much as possible.

Hopefully the law here will change some day.

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You mean, you hope the law in Norway will change, don't you? The US has no problem with you staying a citizen of another country when you are a US citizen.

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I think the most important is the fact that you can never be deported if you become a US citizen. I read from time to time where a green card holder gets deported because of some criminal act. An example would be that you had a serious automobile accident where you were at fault and a person was killed and you were charged with man slaughter and you are convicted. The government may decode to deport you and never allow you to return to the USA.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Norway
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I too wish Norway would allow dual citizenship. My husband will stay a LPR.

Judy

I-129F Sent : 10-04-2010

I-129F NOA1 : 10-12-2010

Touched: 10-21-2010

NOA2: 03-16-2011

Vermont Service Center

Interview: 05-18-2011

Fiance' Visa Approved: 12Jul2011

POE - Newark Airport November 20, 2011

Married: December 8, 2011

AOS package sent to Chicago Lockbox on Feb. 13, 2012

I-485 transfered to Laguna Niguel CA on March 17, 2012

EAD - received from Lee's Summit, MO on April 18, 2012

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What about owning guns? Is that only a USC right?

You can own a gun as an LPR, I was an LPR when I got mine.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Not many Nazi's left, it has to be pretty extreme.

A major legal issue.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Country: Monaco
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I believe they have the authority to strip someone of their US citizenship, and deport, under certain conditions.

That is correct. There seems to be a perception that once you get your citizenship nothing can take it away, but in fact, stripping a former LPR from US citizenship is as possible and probable as revoking your right to live and work in this country as a resident.

In essence your acquired US citizenship is as susceptible as your LPR status. There are several examples in XX century history of such instances.

I cringe at the notion of using Wikipedia as a source for anything, but this ought to give you an idea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_denaturalized_former_citizens_of_the_United_States

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I believe they have the authority to strip someone of their US citizenship, and deport, under certain conditions.

From Gegel's link it looks like it's limited to cases where a person naturalized through fraud (forgetting to mention their nazi past or sham marriages), in which case they shouldn't have had a green card in the first place.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nigeria
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Glad I read this...tucking away info for later.

Hmmm retirement benefits automatically in Norway (can I move there and become eligible? US social security benefits are not going to be around by the time I retire!)

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