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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Scotland
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If we do a civil marriage, are the chances that we get declined aos approval greater?

All USCIS cares about are:

Fees Paid

Legitimate Marriage vs. Visa Fraud

Recorded Marriage Certificate

It does not matter what kind of service it is, as long as you get legally married

2005 Aug 27 Happily Married

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Colombia
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It does not matter as long as you get married within the 90 day period of arriving in the U.S.

Peter Miami

Johanna & Peter

Colombia / U.S.A.

I-129F / K-1 Fiancee Visa

08-20-02 - Met Johanna in Armenia, Colombia

10-05-05 - K-1 Sent to TSC

10-14-05 - Received NOA1 by E-Mail (Day 9)

12-22-05 - Reveived NOA2 By E-Mail & Mail (Day 78)

03-03-06 - Interview Date! (Day 149) Approved

03-10-06 - Johanna Arrived

05-27-06 - Married

I-485 / AOS (Did not applied for EAD or AP)

06-05-06 - Sent I-485 application to Chicago via USPS (Day 1)

06-06-06 - AOS Package Delivered at 12:29PM

06-12-06 - Received NOA1 by Mail

06-14-06 - Check Cashed

06-22-06 - Received Appointment Notice for Biometrics

06-26-06 - "Request for Additional Evidence" Online, waiting for letter

06-29-06 - Biometrics Done!

06-30-06 - Received RFE Letter by mail. (Missing Birth Certificate)

07-10-06 - Sent RFE by Express Mail USPS

07-11-06 - RFE Delivered @ 10:54AM Sign by D. Atwell

08-28-06 - AOS Transferred to CSC E-mail & USCIS Website (Day 85)

08-30-06 - Touched #1

08-31-06 - Touched #2

08-31-06 - E-Mail from CRIS & USCIS-CSSO - CSC received AOS Application

09-01-06 - Touched #3

09-01-06 - NOA by Mail Regarding Transfer to CSC

09-05-06 - Touched #4

09-07-06 - Touched #5

09-13-06 - Touched #6

09-15-06 - AOS Approved by Online Status & E-mail

09-21-06 - Received GC and Welcome Letter (Day 109)

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Germany
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It does not matter as long as you get married within the 90 day period of arriving in the U.S.

Peter Miami

Agree :yes:

I-129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E) Vermont Service Center

05/12/2006 Petition

05/27/2006 NOA 1

06/22/2006 RFE received & sent back (IMBRA)

07/10/2006 Case has been approved

07/14/2006 NOA 2

07/14/2006 NVC forwarded case to FRA

07/18/2006 Medical exam Hamburg

07/22/2006 Package 3

07/22/2006 Sent forms & checklist back to FRA

08/23/2006 Interview

08/25/2006 Picked up visa

08/26/2006 Flying home

09/08/2006 Applied for SSN

09/18/2006 Received SSN

09/23/2006 Wedding

AOS

09/26/2006 Filed AOS

10/06/2006 NOA

10/17/2006 Case transferred to CSC (email)

10/23/2006 Case arrived at CSC (email)

10/24/2006 Touched

10/25/2006 Touched

11/02/2006 Biometrics

11/08/2006 Touched

11/14/2006 GC approved (email)

11/18/2006 GC & Welcome letter in mail

08/09/2008 File for Removal of Conditions

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Filed: Country: Senegal
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I was pondering the same question !

We are both older , have been married before and don't have family except my 3 grown children.

No siblings, aunts, uncles or cousins........noone here in the US, just friends and church members.

We have submitted emails about wedding ceremony planning with my petition

and those are in the embassy stack as well for the interview.

If we now just have a civil one instead a church wedding, would we have AOS problems

because they always want to see wedding photos with family etc......we did submit

the emails where we discussed the whole wedding and reception.

I would have liked an October wedding but the way it drags on and on we would be

making snowangels after the wedding...brrrrr....so cold, and I am tired of all the stress.

Thought about a civil first and church wedding later but I am almost convinced

to just do the civil one and forget the other.

It is too bad that this has taken so long and a middle in the winter wedding just doesn't appeal to me.

I am way too STRESSED OUT to worry about a big wedding now. A wedding in spring is too far away.

We just want to start our lives together under one roof.

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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The kind of wedding you have has absolutely no bearing on your AOS approval.

Good luck.

"THE SHORT STORY"

KURT & RAYMA (K-1 Visa)

Oct. 9/03... I-129F sent to NSC

June 10/04... K-1 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

July 31/04... Entered U.S.

Aug. 28/04... WEDDING DAY!!!!

Aug. 30/04... I-485, I-765 & I-131 sent to Seattle

Dec. 10/04... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport stamped)

Sept. 9/06... I-751 sent to NSC

May 15/07... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Sept. 13/07... N-400 sent to NSC

Aug. 21/08... Interview - PASSED!!!!

Sept. 2/08... Oath Ceremony

Sept. 5/08... Sent in Voter Registration Card

Sept. 9/08... SSA office to change status to "U.S. citizen"

Oct. 8/08... Applied in person for U.S. Passport

Oct. 22/08... U.S. Passport received

DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!!

KAELY (K-2 Visa)

Apr. 6/05... DS-230, Part I faxed to Vancouver Consulate

May 26/05... K-2 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

Sept. 5/05... Entered U.S.

Sept. 7/05... I-485 & I-131 sent to CLB

Feb. 22/06... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport NOT stamped)

Dec. 4/07... I-751 sent to NSC

May 23/08... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Mar. 22/11.... N-400 sent to AZ

June 27/11..... Interview - PASSED!!!

July 12/11..... Oath Ceremony

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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The only requirement is that you get legally married within 90 days of entry to the U.S. Not where and how you get married. As for AOS, they are mainly concerned about a valid and legitimate marriage, not how fancy your wedding was.

K-1 Timeline

11-29-05: Mailed I-129F Petition to CSC

12-06-05: NOA1

03-02-06: NOA2

03-23-06: Interview Date May 16

05-17-06: K-1 Visa Issued

05-20-06: Arrived at POE, Honolulu

07-17-06: Married

AOS Timeline

08-14-06: Mailed I-485 to Chicago

08-24-06: NOA for I-485

09-08-06: Biometrics Appointment

09-25-06: I-485 transferred to CSC

09-28-06: I-485 received at CSC

10-18-06: AOS Approved

10-21-06: Approval notice mailed

10-23-06: Received "Welcome Letter"

10-27-06: Received 2 yr Green Card

I-751 Timeline

07-21-08: Mailed I-751 to VSC

07-25-08: NOA for I-751

08-27-08: Biometrics Appointment

02-25-09: I-751 transferred to CSC

04-17-09: I-751 Approved

06-22-09: Received 10 yr Green Card

N-400 Timeline

07-20-09: Mailed N-400 to Lewisville, TX

07-23-09: NOA for N-400

08-14-09: Biometrics Appointment

09-08-09: Interview Date Oct 07

10-30-09: Oath Ceremony

11-20-09: Received Passport!!!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Canada
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Really, all they care about is: did you get married in the time frame you were supposed to, and are you living in the same residence and continuing a legitimate, ongoing relationship.....and can you prove it?

*Cheryl -- Nova Scotia ....... Jerry -- Oklahoma*

Jan 17, 2014 N-400 submitted

Jan 27, 2014 NOA received and cheque cashed

Feb 13, 2014 Biometrics scheduled

Nov 7, 2014 NOA received and interview scheduled


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If we do a civil marriage, are the chances that we get declined aos approval greater?

No.

That said, read Cassie's reply closely. If you do not provide the evidence they seek, then your chances of being denied are greater.

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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If we do a civil marriage, are the chances that we get declined aos approval greater?

why not do both? :) i did 3....

civil

religious/spiritual

big american wedding

6/21/2006 - sent i130.i485,i131,i765,biometrics, sponsor

6/23/2006 - recieved by MSC

6/27/2006 - notice date on NOA

7/26/2006 - fingerprinting

recieived notice for interview... duno when

9/2/2006 - all apps touched

9/13/2006 - interview. waiting for bkground, no approve.deny case will be reviewed as my case in more complicated., i1131, i485 sepereated from file, claimed that they will be sent for processing

9/22/2006 - called national customer support., been 90 days, no interim ead (i knew i wldnt have it yet) was told to go to santa ana

9/26/2006 - office claims file is floating around somewhere in the mail room, they will find my work permit app and travel doc app and send it for processing

9/26/2006 - drive to LA to double check what they said, office at LA claims that santa ana sent work p, travel to NBC

9/27/2006 - EAD, Travel docs touched

9/28/2006 - EAD, Travel docs tocuhed

9/29/2006 - :( nothing touched, no letters no emails :(:( ---- waiting., will send letter to congressman monday

10/2/2006 - Travel Docs Touched, nothing new on EAD....Wife sent letter to congressman

10/2/2006 - Got Travel Doc in the mail

10/2/2006 9:30 PM PST, 5 email ead approved, will mail me new card

10/6/2006 10:30 AM PST, got 3 emails saying that they have mailed out an approval letter for my EAD... hmmm wheres the damn EAD,

10/7/2006 - Got EAD with a TYPO in a#!!!! in the mail

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there's only need for one. And that's the legal one. If you've got the marriage certificate, and your marriage is for real (ie: not just trying to get a green card and you'll leave your spouse once that is rec'd) then you should be fine.

James and I got married at the magistrate's office. She didn't even ask to see pictures at our AOS interview. Your mileage may vary of course.

divorced - April 2010 moved back to Ontario May 2010 and surrendered green card

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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The answer should be NONE.

I say this because marriage is a STATE definition and not a FEDERAL definition. In simpler words, the federal government cannot decide if a marriage is legal or not. Only the state in which you reside can do this.

The word marriage is not in the Constitution nor Bill of Rights, so therefore a legal marriage is up to each State to define (which they all have done). The IRS goes this route, but that does not mean all federal departments will see it the same way.

Of course, this won't stop federal civil servants from passing judgement on you, but they have no basis for deciding if a marriage is legal or not because only a State government can do this. If you have a valid marriage certificate and this is questioned in an interview, I would just say that this is a valid marriage in this state. I wouldn't get in an argument about it! If they want to argue, ask to speak with their supervisor and end the discussion, but it shouldn't come up.

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DHS doesn't pass judgment on the legality of your marriage. They simply ask you to provide the legal proof and they won't even schedule your interview until you do.

What they do pass judgment on is whether or not the marriage is bonafide.

Big difference.

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The only requirement is that you get legally married within 90 days of entry to the U.S. Not where and how you get married. As for AOS, they are mainly concerned about a valid and legitimate marriage, not how fancy your wedding was.

:thumbs: Agreed!!! :thumbs:

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We did a civil wedding and Claudeth had her GC five months after we filed the AOS.

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