USA or PHL

[rlogan 2,036]

We want the kids to experience a free country so we'll be moving to Philippines as the U.S. continues to degenerate into this wretched Master Race world empire abroad and military-industrial-security-banking complex tyranny at home.

[sjr09 155]

We want the kids to experience a free country so we'll be moving to Philippines as the U.S. continues to degenerate into this wretched Master Race world empire abroad and military-industrial-security-banking complex tyranny at home.

Time to take your Med’s

[sjr09 155]

Why move to the PI the wretched Master Race world empire will soon take over the Philippines and the world!

[Hank_ 9,174]

We want the kids to experience a free country so we'll be moving to Philippines as the U.S. continues to degenerate into this wretched Master Race world empire abroad and military-industrial-security-banking complex tyranny at home.

This from someone who rants about the "nanny state" attitude of the Philippine government (do you remember CFO). The Philippine government wants to "control" it all ...

[Philwithlove 17]

6 months experience here in the US, we have concluded to go back to the philippines when we get old.

First, weather in the Philippines is great except for typhoons but its seldom. Here in the US, have to deal with snow/cold/tornados among others. Husband hates pushing snows. lol

Second, health. Going to a doctor in the philippines is easy and cheap. Not more than $10, a private doctor/specialist can look up to you, and free if you go to a government hospital. If you have philhealth and social security, you even get money as benefits and a 0 peso bill. Went to a doctor here in the US and even im under my husband's insurance, he still pays $30 and you have to adjust when the availability of the doctor unlike in our town in the philippines where you can go visit your doctor even he is home.

third, food. Most of the fruits, vegetables, fish, meat, etc are fresh. Very healthy and cheap. Unlike here in the US, most of the food are processed, frozen or canned. I miss going to our market in our town where in a dollar i already have a kilo of fish, some vegestables and some ripe bananas.

Fourth, finance. An average filipinos earn not more than $500 a month and with that, they can pay bills, feed even 5 kids, have a house help, and healthy and happy, etc.

Fifth, values. My husband likes our future kids to be like filipinos. Respectful to elderly, have a sense of "family", among others that my husband sees most of the kids here in the US are lacking or deteriorating.

More positive things on the list.

The cons living in the philippines for a foriegner is the safety. As bad people see foreigners as a walking dollar. My husband mingles with the locals and never been a "show-off" to anybody. Simple and humble so bad people wont have an interest. lol

Planning not to sell any of his investment here in the US so anytime we like to come back for a visit or what, we have a home here.

For now, earn and save here to make those plans work

[sjr09 155]

This from someone who rants about the "nanny state" attitude of the Philippine government (do you remember CFO). The Philippine government wants to "control" it all ...

[JoBri 548]

After the romantic dreams of retiring in the Philippines, what you have said seems most realistic to me of the way it would go.

Well I've been here in the US for +30 plus years and have heard many people with plans and stories of how people would like to go and retire in the Phils when they reach the age of retirement and I have only known a few (less than fingers on one hand) that actually done it. And even when they do go, they dont sell everything they have and make a move for good.

For some of you that migrate here that are older and don't have kids that are living in the US I can understand it would be a bit easier to relocate. But once you have invested time, family, money and sweat and gets used to the living here I doubt many can leave the US for good. Many people think that their life would be like when they are there for vacation but many find out it's not the same and eventually return here. My lola has tried so many times but can't seems to stay there for good.

Many of the ones that we know returns because primarily of family kids..grand kids and also medical treatment.. etc..but also just the way of life they have been used to here.

My own parents now are also faced with this dilemma, it's been five years of planning but have not happened.

[A and T 82]

I'm not an old guy yet but i have been living and working in the philippines for a year now. Each place has its pros and cons,

For me the cons of the philippines are, its very hot and its never ending humidity unless you to the mountains. Near the beach isnt so bad, but also fairly hot .

I miss a lot of more modern systems at home, such as banking, post office, and American foods.

But otherwise its a very free country. Immigration the philippines its far more cheaper and easier than it is to the USA. Also, i think the education system and way of life is very good for raising children. You will hardly ever see a kid that hates school here. They like education , enjoy school, and everyone isnt on drugs in the schools, no gang wars its much old fashioned here .

I do wish the school system had more science , and less "faith" based classes.

Philippines government feels like its much more socialist than the USA, which i'm ok with.

[sjr09 155]

I'm not an old guy yet but i have been living and working in the philippines for a year now. Each place has its pros and cons,

For me the cons of the philippines are, its very hot and its never ending humidity unless you to the mountains. Near the beach isnt so bad, but also fairly hot .

I miss a lot of more modern systems at home, such as banking, post office, and American foods.

But otherwise its a very free country. Immigration the philippines its far more cheaper and easier than it is to the USA. Also, i think the education system and way of life is very good for raising children. You will hardly ever see a kid that hates school here. They like education , enjoy school, and everyone isnt on drugs in the schools, no gang wars its much old fashioned here .

I do wish the school system had more science , and less "faith" based classes.

Philippines government feels like its much more socialist than the USA, which i'm ok with.

Socialism is an economic concept that advocates public ownership of all resources. The production and distribution of resources with a society are then controlled by members of that society collectively or by the government that represents that society. Goods are produced and distributed based on need rather than on market forces such as profitability, price and consumers' purchasing power. In a socialist economy, workers contribute to society based on their ability and receive according to their needs, rather than being paid wages and using that money to purchase what they want. Private possessions are limited to personal-use items such as clothes, and there is no need or ability for individuals to accumulate wealth, so there is equality among the people.

I don't see it, 'socialist government' individuals do accumulate wealth and poverty is rampant. There is no equality among the people only the have and have not!

[sjr09 155]

Well I've been here in the US for +30 plus years and have heard many people with plans and stories of how people would like to go and retire in the Phils when they reach the age of retirement and I have only known a few (less than fingers on one hand) that actually done it. And even when they do go, they dont sell everything they have and make a move for good.

For some of you that migrate here that are older and don't have kids that are living in the US I can understand it would be a bit easier to relocate. But once you have invested time, family, money and sweat and gets used to the living here I doubt many can leave the US for good. Many people think that their life would be like when they are there for vacation but many find out it's not the same and eventually return here. My lola has tried so many times but can't seems to stay there for good.

Many of the ones that we know returns because primarily of family kids..grand kids and also medical treatment.. etc..but also just the way of life they have been used to here.

My own parents now are also faced with this dilemma, it's been five years of planning but have not happened.

6 months experience here in the US, we have concluded to go back to the philippines when we get old.

First, weather in the Philippines is great except for typhoons but its seldom. Here in the US, have to deal with snow/cold/tornados among others. Husband hates pushing snows. lol

Second, health. Going to a doctor in the philippines is easy and cheap. Not more than $10, a private doctor/specialist can look up to you, and free if you go to a government hospital. If you have philhealth and social security, you even get money as benefits and a 0 peso bill. Went to a doctor here in the US and even im under my husband's insurance, he still pays $30 and you have to adjust when the availability of the doctor unlike in our town in the philippines where you can go visit your doctor even he is home.

third, food. Most of the fruits, vegetables, fish, meat, etc are fresh. Very healthy and cheap. Unlike here in the US, most of the food are processed, frozen or canned. I miss going to our market in our town where in a dollar i already have a kilo of fish, some vegestables and some ripe bananas.

Fourth, finance. An average filipinos earn not more than $500 a month and with that, they can pay bills, feed even 5 kids, have a house help, and healthy and happy, etc.

Fifth, values. My husband likes our future kids to be like filipinos. Respectful to elderly, have a sense of "family", among others that my husband sees most of the kids here in the US are lacking or deteriorating.

More positive things on the list.

The cons living in the philippines for a foriegner is the safety. As bad people see foreigners as a walking dollar. My husband mingles with the locals and never been a "show-off" to anybody. Simple and humble so bad people wont have an interest. lol

Planning not to sell any of his investment here in the US so anytime we like to come back for a visit or what, we have a home here.

For now, earn and save here to make those plans work

Edited June 18, 2012 by sjr09

[Hank_ 9,174]

Can avoid snow/cold/tornados without leaving the USA... no typhoons either. Safety... hmm

[sjr09 155]

Kkorak kadyan, slippers and tank tops 365 days

[sjr09 155]

Didn’t they just have a typhoon yesterday, and more on the way ? Safety hmmm

[Hank_ 9,174]

Yup Mindanao got slapped by a typhoon and an earthquake rattled the windows in Manila the other day.

[sjr09 155]

Must be the work of the wretched Master Race world empire