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Filed: Country: Canada
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Hi guys,

My wife and I never dated and so never lived together/owned property/anything else together because of religious reasons. We're religiously married, but our big wedding reception is next month and her cultural norm is that she doesn't move in with me until then (so we don't even get to hang out alone together too much when I visit her in Canada). I had a few questions about the I-130 application and supporting documents because of that, but I was also wondering if you think I should add any additional information with the application. Should I write an explanation of why we've never lived together? Should I mention our religion? (we're Muslim, and given my and my friends' experience as Muslims in America, I'm a bit hesitant to provide that information)

As far as specific questions go:

- The line in the I-130 asking for last joint address: do I just put N/A or should I add some kind of explanation on another page?

- I'm supposed to attach proof that our marriage is bona fide. The only option we have is affidavits from other individuals. Who should these people be? What kind of letter should they write? Do they need to be signed and should I have the originals?

- What additional proof can I give? Pictures from our engagement ceremony? Hall booking and wedding invitation cards for our upcoming wedding reception? Would these be helpful at all?

Thanks all for your help!

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Hi guys,

My wife and I never dated and so never lived together/owned property/anything else together because of religious reasons. We're religiously married, but our big wedding reception is next month and her cultural norm is that she doesn't move in with me until then (so we don't even get to hang out alone together too much when I visit her in Canada). I had a few questions about the I-130 application and supporting documents because of that, but I was also wondering if you think I should add any additional information with the application. Should I write an explanation of why we've never lived together? Should I mention our religion? (we're Muslim, and given my and my friends' experience as Muslims in America, I'm a bit hesitant to provide that information)

As far as specific questions go:

- The line in the I-130 asking for last joint address: do I just put N/A or should I add some kind of explanation on another page?

- I'm supposed to attach proof that our marriage is bona fide. The only option we have is affidavits from other individuals. Who should these people be? What kind of letter should they write? Do they need to be signed and should I have the originals?

- What additional proof can I give? Pictures from our engagement ceremony? Hall booking and wedding invitation cards for our upcoming wedding reception? Would these be helpful at all?

Thanks all for your help!

Salaam.

My wife and I have not lived together yet either. No need to write a letter explaining religious reasons for lack of cohabitation.

We used the following as proof of bonafide marriage:

Added her to my work benefits.

Added her to bank account.

Added her to lease (apartment)

Added her to insurance, medical through work.

Provided phone records showing continuous contact.

Pictures of wedding. Honeymoon. Trips where I visited her.

Hope ths helps

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Salaam.

My wife and I have not lived together yet either. No need to write a letter explaining religious reasons for lack of cohabitation.

We used the following as proof of bonafide marriage:

Added her to my work benefits.

Added her to bank account.

Added her to lease (apartment)

Added her to insurance, medical through work.

Provided phone records showing continuous contact.

Pictures of wedding. Honeymoon. Trips where I visited her.

Hope ths helps

Karabas, I've been doing research on this, too. Since we've both never lived together before we marry (which is in 1.5 weeks yey!)... I believe what Bule&Cantik say is true. My fiance plans to do that soon after we marry.

Also plan on printing out copious copies of letters/postcards/emails/messages we sent each other.

Also pictures from the ceremony, reception, honeymoon are helpful. Remember to label the back of the shots with the date, location and event.

Also enclose itineraries, tickets & boarding passes you used to see each other.

For affidavits from people attesting to the marriage... from what I read, best to get a US citizen to do this... preferably someone who played a significant role in your marriage. Such as a best man or an officiant. Who is a US citizen.

Hopefully, someone can give even better info that what's already been posted. Also, I have no idea how much of each proof is enough. I, too, am very interested in the answers :)

“The fact that we are here and that I speak these words is an attempt to break that silence and bridge some
of those differences between us, for it is not difference which immobilizes us, but silence.
And there are so many silences to be broken.”

Audre Lorde

Filed: Country: Canada
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I see you say that you are religiously married.....does that mean legally married.... do you have a marriage certificate.....

I have seen others on this site who are in the same situation....and I wish you the best

Yes, religious wedding are required to be registered by Canadian law, so we have our marriage certificate now.

Salaam.

My wife and I have not lived together yet either. No need to write a letter explaining religious reasons for lack of cohabitation.

We used the following as proof of bonafide marriage:

Added her to my work benefits.

Added her to bank account.

Added her to lease (apartment)

Added her to insurance, medical through work.

Provided phone records showing continuous contact.

Pictures of wedding. Honeymoon. Trips where I visited her.

Hope ths helps

Wa 'alaykum assalaam and jazakumAllahu khayran for the info, that is indeed helpful. I don't have a job yet (actively looking at the moment), so can't add her to my work-related benefits, but I can try the bank account thing. Did you include any affidavits from people to confirm your marriage?

Karabas, I've been doing research on this, too. Since we've both never lived together before we marry (which is in 1.5 weeks yey!)... I believe what Bule&Cantik say is true. My fiance plans to do that soon after we marry.

Also plan on printing out copious copies of letters/postcards/emails/messages we sent each other.

Also pictures from the ceremony, reception, honeymoon are helpful. Remember to label the back of the shots with the date, location and event.

Also enclose itineraries, tickets & boarding passes you used to see each other.

For affidavits from people attesting to the marriage... from what I read, best to get a US citizen to do this... preferably someone who played a significant role in your marriage. Such as a best man or an officiant. Who is a US citizen.

Hopefully, someone can give even better info that what's already been posted. Also, I have no idea how much of each proof is enough. I, too, am very interested in the answers :)

Thanks for the suggestion. What about relatives? Can I have my mother attest to our marriage? She's been pretty heavily involved in the whole marriage planning process and is a US citizen. What about signatures? Can I mail in copies of these letters or do they have to be originals?

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We did not include any affidavit. We gave them the above mentioned.

We received an RFE (request for evidence) at the uscis stage. We then sent in the pictures. (the rest we included in our original submission).

Better to put as much as possible into the original submission so as not to get the RFE.

Our RFE wanted specifically the pictures from wedding. Explanation for family absence (if not in attendance). They also wanted to see letter from my employer "authorizing my time off".( I made 6 trips to Indonesia in 2011.), etc.

Side note. I use the bank account to send wife money to support her. This creates additional evidence.

Hope all this helps.

Read the guides and ask questions. Stay ahead. Organize.

Salaam

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Japan
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I think you have nothing to worry about! Many couples never lived together before wedding. Or even after wedding in the cases of international relationships like yours and mine. We only sent pictures and letters from mother, mother in law, and the petitioner's best fried. That was it. Both mothers wrote very detailed latter explaining how they met their son/daughter in law for the first time, how they spend holidays together, how excited they are for the newly married couple etc. My husband's friend wrote a very casual letter about how we always hang out together to how happy he is to do the best man for our wedding. Hope everything goes smoothly. Good luck!

Married May 2011

10/07/2011: NOA1

12/15/2011: NOA2

01/12/2012: NVC case number arrived

01/13/2012: DS-3032 emailed

01/27/2012: Barcode arrived via e-mail

03/06/2012: I-864&DS-230 sent together

03/13/2012: RFE

04/16/2012: Additional documents sent

05/02/2012: NVC case complete

05/14/2012: Medical

06/04/2012: Interview--->approved

06/05/2012: Visa arrived in mail

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Thanks for the suggestion. What about relatives? Can I have my mother attest to our marriage? She's been pretty heavily involved in the whole marriage planning process and is a US citizen. What about signatures? Can I mail in copies of these letters or do they have to be originals?

Above post said it is possible. I originally thought it wasn't, but then I think it will be loads better than just friends attesting.

Good luck to us! :)

“The fact that we are here and that I speak these words is an attempt to break that silence and bridge some
of those differences between us, for it is not difference which immobilizes us, but silence.
And there are so many silences to be broken.”

Audre Lorde

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Posted

- The line in the I-130 asking for last joint address: do I just put N/A or should I add some kind of explanation on another page?

An appropriate answer to this question is "We have not yet lived together." "None" is also an acceptable answer. N/A is not an appropriate answer because the question is applicable to you.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

 
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