The American Jewish Future: Orthodox, Right-Wing, Poor?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I remember. Scandal kicked your аss in that thread good and proper and debunked all your false claims and talking points.

:rofl:

[mawilson 2,133]

:rofl:

He cleaned your clock! You couldn't address any of his actual arguments, so as usual you resorted to selective quoting, strawmen and unfocused, irrelevant spamming such as

"####### dude I was responding to xxx, not to yyy"

or

"I never claimed xxx or yyy"

Keep trolling!

[MyLittlePony 340]

Alright girls go find a room.

[mawilson 2,133]

For the record, when you start an argument with "####### dude", you've already lost.

[MyLittlePony 340]

####### dude

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

He cleaned your clock! You couldn't address any of his actual arguments, so as usual you resorted to selective quoting, strawmen and unfocused, irrelevant spamming such as

"####### dude I was responding to xxx, not to yyy"

or

"I never claimed xxx or yyy"

Keep trolling!

The thread is there for all to read. Anyone can see for themselves how little it resembles your increasingly hysterical alternate reality.

[mawilson 2,133]

The thread is there for all to read.

Indeed.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Indeed.

As I already mentioned in that thread, your idea of "meaningful debate" consists of

1. We rock

2. They suck

3. You suck

4. Everything sucks

over and over and over.

[mawilson 2,133]

More insults and strawmen. Why am I not surprised.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Ma Wilson - you have had nothing at all to say about the topic. Every single one of your posts in this thread has been yet another lame attempt to troll me. Buzz off.

[mawilson 2,133]

Ma Wilson - you have had nothing at all to say about the topic. Every single one of your posts in this thread has been yet another lame attempt to troll me. Buzz off.

I will not. People need to know what an extremist you are.

If you believe you can spread your propaganda here without being called out on it, you are mistaken.

[MyLittlePony 340]

In before the lock.

[^_^ 5,021]

I will not. People need to know what an extremist you are.

If you believe you can spread your propaganda here without being called out on it, you are mistaken.

+1

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I will not. People need to know what an extremist you are.

If you believe you can spread your propaganda here without being called out on it, you are mistaken.

Which "propaganda" or "extremism" is that ? Would it be my posting the link to the UN documents that describe what determines a refugee, which showed your post about it to be nonsense ? Or perhaps the news reports about the African migrants in Israel actually owning businesses, which showed your rantings to be more nonsense ? Because that's what you're apparently so upset about - the other thread, which you fled. So now you're over here, trying to turn this thread into more nonsense.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Now back to the topic. This is an older article (2005) but sheds more light on the subject... it's long, so I will just post a few sections:

On the basis of the consensus figure of 5.5 million, the Jewish population of the United States has, at best, remained static for the past 50 years, despite the influx during that same period of at least a half-million Jewish immigrants.

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Two trends are particularly telling. First, in terms of median age, Jews are seven years older than other Americans. Second, even by the most cautious figures, at least half of all marriages involving a Jew are to non-Jews. Neither trend suggests demographic vitality.

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Among Americans of all kinds, moreover, Jews have the fewest number of siblings, the smallest household size, and the second lowest number of children under eighteen at home.

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Jews marry later than other Americans, with the greatest disparities occurring in the age group between twenty-five and thirty-four. For Jewish women in particular, late marriage means lower rates of fertility compared with other Caucasian women ― who themselves are barely producing babies at replacement level (figured at 2.1 children). The fertility gap is especially enormous among Jewish women under the age of thirty-five; even though the gap narrows considerably over the course of the next ten years, at no point do Jewish women attain the fertility levels of their non-Jewish peers or bear children in numbers sufficient to offset population losses from natural causes.

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Not only does the birth rate among intermarried Jews tend to be even lower than among in-married ones, but nearly three-quarters of children raised in intermarried families go on to marry non-Jews themselves, and only 4 percent of these raise their own children as Jews. As for their links with Jewish life, only a minority of children raised by dual-religion parents identify themselves with Judaism or with the institutions of the Jewish community. Although a number of adult children of intermarriage do express "somewhat" of a connection with the Jewish component of their identity, such feelings are rarely translated into behavior. Like their parents, most tend not to join synagogues, contribute to Jewish causes, visit Israel, or participate in Jewish rituals nearly as much as do the adult children of in-married families.

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But this brings us to the one major exception to the general rule ― namely, Orthodox Jews. Not only do the Orthodox suffer many fewer losses from intermarriage, but their fertility rate is far above the Jewish norm. As against the overall average of 1.86 children per Jewish woman, an informed estimate gives figures ranging upward from 3.3 children in "modern Orthodox" families to 6.6 in Haredi or "ultra-Orthodox" families to a whopping 7.9 in families of Hasidim. These numbers are, of course, difficult to pin down definitively, but anecdotal evidence is compelling. In a single year, according to a nurse at one hospital in the Lakewood, New Jersey area serving a right-wing Orthodox population, 1,700 babies were born to 5,500 local families, yielding a rate of 358 births per thousand women. (The overall American rate is 65 births per thousand women.)

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Orthodox adults are younger on average than other American Jews, with more than half falling between the ages of eighteen and forty-four. As for children eighteen and under, these make up 19 percent of the Orthodox community; the figure for the total American Jewish community (including the Orthodox) is only 12 percent.

It does not take a prophet to discern the eventual impact of these trends. The Orthodox are the smallest of the three major denominations; in numbers, the Conservative and Reform movements far outstrip them. But among synagogue-affiliated Jews, the Orthodox sector contains more children than either of the other two. If the Orthodox continue to retain the loyalties of their young people, as they have mostly done over the past 30 or 40 years, they will become an ever larger, more visible, and better represented part of the total community

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48899452.html