renouncing U.S citizenship to become illegal ?

[Libersolis 0]

It's such a reward to have to worry about your husband being carted off on his way to or from work. Yeah, fun times!

You want to know what's even better? When it actually happens! When he's sleeping in bed. Waking to big old guns pointed at his head. Man, those were the days!!!!!!

Yeah, like I said, fun times! But, you know, those are small prices to pay for the three day walk across the desert when they run out of water and almost die. Thank goodness Javier found some water that day and had the guts to keep pressing forward. Or else I guess he'd be another number to add to the long list of the one's who die on their way over. But hey, it's all worth it once you get here. All these lovely rewards you get. None of which he benefitted from, but whatever.

Nice how you omit the fact the he wasn't supposed to be here in the first place.

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

It's such a reward to have to worry about your husband being carted off on his way to or from work. Yeah, fun times!

You want to know what's even better? When it actually happens! When he's sleeping in bed. Waking to big old guns pointed at his head. Man, those were the days!!!!!!

Yeah, like I said, fun times! But, you know, those are small prices to pay for the three day walk across the desert when they run out of water and almost die. Thank goodness Javier found some water that day and had the guts to keep pressing forward. Or else I guess he'd be another number to add to the long list of the one's who die on their way over. But hey, it's all worth it once you get here. All these lovely rewards you get. None of which he benefitted from, but whatever.

Nice how you omit the fact the he wasn't supposed to be here in the first place.

nice how you omit the fact this started from a request to become an illegal alien based on perceived rewards for such status.

Daniel

:energetic:

[LaL 418]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

its still correct that it is laughable that hardships do not excuse illegal activity! My *laughable* comment was directly related to that item, not referring to the OP's letter, soooo I think i am 100% correct here . we see it all the time in these threads, and no matter how much blood n' guts emotion we get from those who have been in the trenches, it won't change many peopl's views on this very fact.

[almaty 19]

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[AnaAndDaniel 0]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

its still correct that it is laughable that hardships do not excuse illegal activity! My *laughable* comment was directly related to that item, not referring to the OP's letter, soooo I think i am 100% correct here . we see it all the time in these threads, and no matter how much blood n' guts emotion we get from those who have been in the trenches, it won't change many peopl's views on this very fact.

i understand what you are saying, and i generally agree with your assesment. but, methinks they were simply poking fun at the OP and his/her fellow thinkers logic. I did not see a request for sympathy/empathy (whatever/whichever is the more appropriate/correct word )

Daniel

:energetic:

[Libersolis 0]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

It's such a reward to have to worry about your husband being carted off on his way to or from work. Yeah, fun times!

You want to know what's even better? When it actually happens! When he's sleeping in bed. Waking to big old guns pointed at his head. Man, those were the days!!!!!!

Yeah, like I said, fun times! But, you know, those are small prices to pay for the three day walk across the desert when they run out of water and almost die. Thank goodness Javier found some water that day and had the guts to keep pressing forward. Or else I guess he'd be another number to add to the long list of the one's who die on their way over. But hey, it's all worth it once you get here. All these lovely rewards you get. None of which he benefitted from, but whatever.

Nice how you omit the fact the he wasn't supposed to be here in the first place.

nice how you omit the fact this started from a request to become an illegal alien based on perceived rewards for such status.

Daniel

:energetic:

You are fighting a losing battle here. Very few people are going to feel sympathy for your sad story.

[Traviesa 0]

I don't want people to feel sorry for me. I made the freaking bed that I lie in, but what gets my goat is the STUPID glamorization of the illegal life that I see so often on here. Really makes it very clear and obvious that none of these people really know a thing about what that life is really like. Well, some of us do, and let me tell you-to hear someone say something like "Let me just bring my husband over in a boat" is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. I'm trying to point out that if being illegal were so wonderful and glamorous as many people think it is, CDJ wouldn't be receiving hundreds of waivers daily, and those who were illegal would have just stayed that way.

And I want to also add, because it's evident that my point didn't come across clearly, I wasn't trying to make it "acceptable" to be illegal because of the hardships faced, on the CONTRARY I was pointing out what a SUCKY existence that it is, and that the intelligent people on this forum should quit making such idiotic remarks about wanting to be illegal.

Edited October 17, 2006 by Heina

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

It's such a reward to have to worry about your husband being carted off on his way to or from work. Yeah, fun times!

You want to know what's even better? When it actually happens! When he's sleeping in bed. Waking to big old guns pointed at his head. Man, those were the days!!!!!!

Yeah, like I said, fun times! But, you know, those are small prices to pay for the three day walk across the desert when they run out of water and almost die. Thank goodness Javier found some water that day and had the guts to keep pressing forward. Or else I guess he'd be another number to add to the long list of the one's who die on their way over. But hey, it's all worth it once you get here. All these lovely rewards you get. None of which he benefitted from, but whatever.

Nice how you omit the fact the he wasn't supposed to be here in the first place.

nice how you omit the fact this started from a request to become an illegal alien based on perceived rewards for such status.

Daniel

:energetic:

You are fighting a losing battle here. Very few people are going to feel sympathy for your sad story.

wrong again there buddy. i don't lose. not asking for your sympathy. and i don't have a sad story.

Daniel

:energetic:

[Bootylicious!! 2]

I don't have a sad story. My story is actually quite exciting. We overcame the obstacles that were laid out in front of us and for that I have to say Praise God! I'm not asking for sympathy. I don't need strangers on a message board to give me sympathy that I really don't need in the first place. I'm perfectly happy with my life. Like Daniel said, we are sarcastically going back and forth because the original letter is so insanely STUPID. It's very obvious to me when someone doesn't understand what illegals actually go through in their lives because it results in the ignorant posts you see like this OP's.

Like I said, no sympathy needed here. My life is awesome! I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

[LaL 418]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

its still correct that it is laughable that hardships do not excuse illegal activity! My *laughable* comment was directly related to that item, not referring to the OP's letter, soooo I think i am 100% correct here . we see it all the time in these threads, and no matter how much blood n' guts emotion we get from those who have been in the trenches, it won't change many peopl's views on this very fact.

i understand what you are saying, and i generally agree with your assesment. but, methinks they were simply poking fun at the OP and his/her fellow thinkers logic. I did not see a request for sympathy/empathy (whatever/whichever is the more appropriate/correct word )

Daniel

:energetic:

yep - and i agree with you back! i just thought the letter was tongue-in-cheek as well so i guess we can all just LOLOLOLOLORZ together!

[Libersolis 0]

The fact that you are even allowed to be in this country after breaking the law shows that there is enough benefit to breaking the law that it is worth it for people. Otherwise why risk it? Do you think people would actually do it if it meant that they would be permanently banned?

[Traviesa 0]

I don't have a sad story. My story is actually quite exciting. We overcame the obstacles that were laid out in front of us and for that I have to say Praise God! I'm not asking for sympathy. I don't need strangers on a message board to give me sympathy that I really don't need in the first place. I'm perfectly happy with my life. Like Daniel said, we are sarcastically going back and forth because the original letter is so insanely STUPID. It's very obvious to me when someone doesn't understand what illegals actually go through in their lives because it results in the ignorant posts you see like this OP's.

Like I said, no sympathy needed here. My life is awesome! I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

No sad story here either. I have no regrets.

The fact that you are even allowed to be in this country after breaking the law shows that there is enough benefit to breaking the law that it is worth it for people. Otherwise why risk it? Do you think people would actually do it if it meant that they would be permanently banned?

I think most people wouldn't really care, because the reality of most people is that they have no intentions of immigrating to or staying in this country. For most people, it's a way to make money, then return home, so I think permanent ban wouldn't really scare most people.

To understand that, you have to understand why people come over here illegally-it's not to stay, although there are many who probably do stay.

Edited October 17, 2006 by Heina

[Libersolis 0]

Of course you don't. There isn't any strict punishment being given. Why would you have regrets when you can go about the process in the same manner as those who haven't broken the law?

I don't have a sad story. My story is actually quite exciting. We overcame the obstacles that were laid out in front of us and for that I have to say Praise God! I'm not asking for sympathy. I don't need strangers on a message board to give me sympathy that I really don't need in the first place. I'm perfectly happy with my life. Like Daniel said, we are sarcastically going back and forth because the original letter is so insanely STUPID. It's very obvious to me when someone doesn't understand what illegals actually go through in their lives because it results in the ignorant posts you see like this OP's.

Like I said, no sympathy needed here. My life is awesome! I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

No sad story here either. I have no regrets.

The fact that you are even allowed to be in this country after breaking the law shows that there is enough benefit to breaking the law that it is worth it for people. Otherwise why risk it? Do you think people would actually do it if it meant that they would be permanently banned?

I think most people wouldn't really care, because the reality of most people is that they have no intentions of immigrating to or staying in this country. For most people, it's a way to make money, then return home, so I think permanent ban wouldn't really scare most people.

Nice logic there. How would people make money in this country if they are permanently banned?

[AnaAndDaniel 0]

All this playful banter between you guys (waiver chicks) does not really make anyone who hasn't gone through that feel sympathy (which is why your both being sarcastically funny about it). You guys dealt with it so you know 1st hand the hardships, however hardships do not excuse illegal activity!! its laughable to think it does!

Just understand trying to educating others by pointing out hardships of illegals really does nothing for you or the plight of the downtrodden illegals. No one will feel bad for them in this way.

you are 50% correct. the hardships do not excuse illegal activity. <-- that part you have correct. the laughable part is the thought process of the OP's posted 'letter'. how anybody thinks that illegal aliens have it easy is beyond me.

Daniel

:energetic:

its still correct that it is laughable that hardships do not excuse illegal activity! My *laughable* comment was directly related to that item, not referring to the OP's letter, soooo I think i am 100% correct here . we see it all the time in these threads, and no matter how much blood n' guts emotion we get from those who have been in the trenches, it won't change many peopl's views on this very fact.

i understand what you are saying, and i generally agree with your assesment. but, methinks they were simply poking fun at the OP and his/her fellow thinkers logic. I did not see a request for sympathy/empathy (whatever/whichever is the more appropriate/correct word )

Daniel

:energetic:

yep - and i agree with you back! i just thought the letter was tongue-in-cheek as well so i guess we can all just LOLOLOLOLORZ together!

Daniel

:energetic:

[Traviesa 0]

Of course you don't. There isn't any strict punishment being given. Why would you have regrets when you can go about the process in the same manner as those who haven't broken the law?

I don't have a sad story. My story is actually quite exciting. We overcame the obstacles that were laid out in front of us and for that I have to say Praise God! I'm not asking for sympathy. I don't need strangers on a message board to give me sympathy that I really don't need in the first place. I'm perfectly happy with my life. Like Daniel said, we are sarcastically going back and forth because the original letter is so insanely STUPID. It's very obvious to me when someone doesn't understand what illegals actually go through in their lives because it results in the ignorant posts you see like this OP's.

Like I said, no sympathy needed here. My life is awesome! I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world.

No sad story here either. I have no regrets.

The fact that you are even allowed to be in this country after breaking the law shows that there is enough benefit to breaking the law that it is worth it for people. Otherwise why risk it? Do you think people would actually do it if it meant that they would be permanently banned?

I think most people wouldn't really care, because the reality of most people is that they have no intentions of immigrating to or staying in this country. For most people, it's a way to make money, then return home, so I think permanent ban wouldn't really scare most people.

Nice logic there. How would people make money in this country if they are permanently banned?

Many people come and go and are never caught-for many people, it's a one time thing. So they would come, make money, and go home. If they were caught and sent home, it wouldn't be a big deal.

And as for my process being the "same as everyone else's" I'm not going to touch that. You don't know a blessed thing about the process we've been through up until this point, and that we are continuing to go through.

Look at you Libersolis-it's been 4 months and yadda yadda days since your visa process started. It's been 3 years and 6 and a half months since our first interactions with immigration, and more than a year (and one denied Visa) since we started the visa process.