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I have as yet to meet an intelligent atheist, or even see one on TV.

Only an insecure and ignorant person, or a Communist, could possibly feel the calling to ridicule and condemn all religious thought.

Juxtaposing your statements suggests to me that the reason for your first statement has a great deal to do with who you are rather than who atheists are. Your second statement, relative to the first, is curious as well in its suggestions of projection!

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Juxtaposing your statements suggests to me that the reason for your first statement has a great deal to do with who you are rather than who atheists are. Your second statement, relative to the first, is curious as well in its suggestions of projection!

Dammit! I keep hitting the plus button instead of reply.

How so?

In the first point, for someone to be of the belief that humans are the most developed sentient beings in the universe would as irrational as those that believe in a being that cannot be seen or heard, well, at least to those that won't believe. Unless you believe that rational thinking is not required to be considered intelligence.

For the second point, zealots in all forms profess their one true faith to the exclusion of others. Again, that is a form of either ignorance as to what beliefs others hold, or an insecurity that such beliefs in themselves are dangerous, in and of themselves, again, a profession of ignorance. Communists have shown themselves to be the zealots of the last century, professing atheism as a tenet of their beliefs. As Communism has been replaced with Capitalism and the New Mercantilism around around the world, the number of atheists also delcline in the world.

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Dammit! I keep hitting the plus button instead of reply.

How so?

In the first point, for someone to be of the belief that humans are the most developed sentient beings in the universe would as irrational as those that believe in a being that cannot be seen or heard, well, at least to those that won't believe. Unless you believe that rational thinking is not required to be considered intelligence.

For the second point, zealots in all forms profess their one true faith to the exclusion of others. Again, that is a form of either ignorance as to what beliefs others hold, or an insecurity that such beliefs in themselves are dangerous, in and of themselves, again, a profession of ignorance. Communists have shown themselves to be the zealots of the last century, professing atheism as a tenet of their beliefs. As Communism has been replaced with Capitalism and the New Mercantilism around around the world, the number of atheists also delcline in the world.

The wisdom contained within the first parable quoted suggests to me further argument is futile.

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FWIW, Einstein was not a self professed atheist. If you look at the volume of what he has said about God, it is more accurate to label him agnostic. That goes for Thomas Jefferson and a lot of other brilliant minds over the last few centuries. In fact, I'd challenge the notion that so many prominent scientists embrace the idea that there is no god with any degree of certainty, because to do so would require believing something without proof - or in other words, faith.

A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)

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FWIW, Einstein was not a self professed atheist. If you look at the volume of what he has said about God, it is more accurate to label him agnostic. That goes for Thomas Jefferson and a lot of other brilliant minds over the last few centuries. In fact, I'd challenge the notion that so many prominent scientists embrace the idea that there is no god with any degree of certainty, because to do so would require believing something without proof - or in other words, faith.

I was watching something the other day on theoretical advanced civilizations, with a rating scale from 1 to 3, based on the ability to manipulate all the energy available from larger and larger objects. On that scale used by theoretical scientists, humans rated a zero. God would be a 4.

Michio Kaku suggested that humans may attain Type I status in about 100–200 years, Type II status in a few thousand years, and Type III status in about 100,000 to a million years.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

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FWIW, Einstein was not a self professed atheist. If you look at the volume of what he has said about God, it is more accurate to label him agnostic. That goes for Thomas Jefferson and a lot of other brilliant minds over the last few centuries. In fact, I'd challenge the notion that so many prominent scientists embrace the idea that there is no god with any degree of certainty, because to do so would require believing something without proof - or in other words, faith.

LI is was smarter than Einstein.

R.I.P Spooky 2004-2015

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I was watching something the other day on theoretical advanced civilizations, with a rating scale from 1 to 3, based on the ability to manipulate all the energy available from larger and larger objects. On that scale used by theoretical scientists, humans rated a zero. God would be a 4.

Michio Kaku rocks.

 

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