Wisconsin Recall

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The GOP played better and harder. Superior ground game, more money, better leadership.

Good for them.

[mawilson 2,133]

The GOP played better and harder. Superior ground game, more money, better leadership.

Good for them.

Or maybe it's what the people of Wisconsin wanted and had nothing to do with money or superior game.

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Or maybe it's what the people of Wisconsin wanted and had nothing to do with money or superior game.

Game always matters. Don't be naive. You can have the best *** in the world but if you got no game you don't get the girl.

[웃 910]

Or maybe it's what the people of Wisconsin wanted and had nothing to do with money or superior game.

It's what 1.331 million people from Wisconsin wanted.

1.158 million people of Wisconsin did not want that outcome.

Edited June 6, 2012 by ☠

[mawilson 2,133]

It's what 1.331 million people from Wisconsin wanted.

1.158 million people of Wisconsin did not want that outcome.

Yah well. That's what we call "democracy".

Game always matters. Don't be naive. You can have the best *** in the world but if you got no game you don't get the girl.

I don't know what the best *** is, but "if you build it, they will come." There's someone for everyone, game or no game.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

It's what 1.331 million people from Wisconsin wanted.

1.158 million people of Wisconsin did not want that outcome.

I'm amused by the logic you used here.

After all, it's the precise logic that demands a smaller Federal Government and to give back power to the states. This way there is opportunity for most everyone to get what they want from state to state.

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I'm amused by the logic you used here.

After all, it's the precise logic that demands a smaller Federal Government and to give back power to the states. This way there is opportunity for most everyone to get what they want from state to state.

State government is still too high a level. We need individual government.

In fact, I'm gonna get to work drafting my own personal constitution this very moment.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

State government is still too high a level. We need individual government.

In fact, I'm gonna get to work drafting my own personal constitution this very moment.

People have tried that with their various "compounds."

Then other people complain and the state and/or Feds come in and cause chaos, sometimes costing quite a few lives.

[JohnR! 5,495]

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It's what 1.331 million people from Wisconsin wanted.

1.158 million people of Wisconsin did not want that outcome.

Right on the money. The State remains divided on the subject, despite the outcome of the elections.

Edited June 6, 2012 by Gegel

[Tinchen_ 21]

man the whole wisconsin thing just proves me who dumb people are. and that you can buy everything with money. americans need to wake up and dont believe everything a AD tells you..

i cant believe ppl go and vote for something that makes there own life harder.he going to take working unions away that means no more minimum wage and job security.and voted against equal pay dont even get me started on that.

you cant build up a country with destroying the middle class and just fiance everything on the lower class. idk if the republicans ever heard about Boltes Onion model and how society and economics work. you cant have two wars going on for over ten years and expect that the country going to last financially. taxes need to be raised and even the 1% needs to start paying their share.

ppl need to stop watching fox news, seriously lol

[mawilson 2,133]

i cant believe ppl go and vote for something that makes there own life harder.he going to take working unions away that means no more minimum wage and job security.

They will have no job security if they have no job.

We tried your approach with GM. Labor got huge concessions - generous benefits, pensions and healthcare for life -

so much so that GM was barely profitable. You know what happened next.

[JohnR! 5,495]

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They will have no job security if they have no job.

We tried your approach with GM. Labor got huge concessions - generous benefits, pensions and healthcare for life -

so much so that GM was barely profitable. You know what happened next.

On the flip side, taking away collective bargaining power from the workers is akin to the practices used in communist countries. You cant question your employer nor bargain with the State. Of course, there is always the option of striking.

How so unimaginative of comrade Walker...

[Tinchen_ 21]

They will have no job security if they have no job.

We tried your approach with GM. Labor got huge concessions - generous benefits, pensions and healthcare for life -

so much so that GM was barely profitable. You know what happened next.

first is your own responsibility to get a job. if you too lazy for that aint nobodys fault then your own. working unions are there for to give you the security for jobs that you cant get fired for no reason, have minimum wage, paid vacations and goes on and on.

economy is hard all over the world, and we all now who we can thank for that. so its hard to get jobs but obama created a lot of jobs. that aint the golden 90's anymore. and it will get even harder the economy going to be worse soon. if you want a job you need to be flexible to move and look in different sections. economy added just 69,000 jobs in May and the U.S. economy has created jobs for 27 straight months

[웃 910]

They will have no job security if they have no job.

We tried your approach with GM. Labor got huge concessions - generous benefits, pensions and healthcare for life -

so much so that GM was barely profitable. You know what happened next.

A friend of mine (from about 2002-06) got hired with American Axle right out of high school. Within a couple years he was making over $20 an hour with benefits and overtime. No college education and he was bringing in $1100-$1300 as a 19/20 year old.

He bought one of those Cadillac Trucks and put 24 inch spinners on it. Spent most of his money on drugs. He got laid off in 05/06 and they gave him a $50,000 buyout. He pissed it away in a few months!

He was always pretty deep into drugs. Anyways, I found out a few years ago that he was doing heroin. I guess him and his friend were breaking into foreclosed homes every single day, stealing the copper piping, and selling it. Making about $600 a day but risking serious prison time.

The police realized what was going on pretty fast and watched them do a couple B&Es and then arrested them. The one guy got 1 year because he had no criminal record. And the guy I knew got 2 to 30 because he has a longer record!

Earliest release is 4/13/2014

Maximum release is 11/13/2041

http://westbloomfield.patch.com/articles/2-men-arrested-in-connection-with-copper-thefts

[Obama 2012 1,714]

On the flip side, taking away collective bargaining power from the workers is akin to the practices used in communist countries. You cant question your employer nor bargain with the State. Of course, there is always the option of striking.

How so unimaginative of comrade Walker...

PUBLIC unions should have NO collective bargaining rights. They are holding the taxpayers hostage, not some big evil corporation.