People make up your mind before bringing someone here!!

[Cathi 5,782]

I think they should open the 90 day to 180 days to give both parties more time..and if the petioner decides not to marry maybe there's more to the story.

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I think it is too easy for people who file for the k1 to get here. As someone petitioning for my husband with a cr1 it is by far more of a difficult process before the visa is approved. I think the screening process for k1 should be just as difficult. Really isn't quite fair that is is easier and faster for couples not married.

[del-2-5-2014 1,339]

That also happens in the US all the time ... People form different states for example. Shouldn't be your problem tho, how they are spending their money.

I don't care how they are spending their money BUT I do care that they are clogging up the system. You shouldn't care if yoru neighbor the alchi is spending his money on beer but I bet you'll care if he always passes out cold on your driveway when you need to go to work.

I agree that the K-1 is to bring your fiance here to make plans for your wedding, not a trial period to see if you like it or not. However, I do see where people can get their information saying it is a trial period. I found the following statement here on VJ in the guides section under K-1.

>>The K-1 Visa allows for a "get to know your fiance better" period before marriage, since the visa is good for 90 days.<<

I don't agree that it should be interpreted that way because I feel people should definitely know that they want to get married before they ever file the petition. So many of us desire to be married with our fiances and are waiting and waiting. I personally can not imagine going through all the processes and waiting for someone I was not certain I wanted to spend the rest of my life with.

VJ is very helpful, that is the contributors but it is not the bible or final word on USCIS and their intents.

Then you know people who lied to get a visa. Letters of intent are mandatory for a reason.

Visits are for test drives. If you don't know for sure that you want to marry the petitioner and live your life in the US then this visa is not for you.

People abusing the system and using this visa for unintended purposes are the reason this process can be so ridiculous.

If you need more time to "get to know your fiancé" then perhaps they shouldn't be your fiancé.

Brilliant. It's not called Girlfriend Visa or that cute Bartender I met on vacation Visa.

Definition of FIANCÉ

: a man engaged to be married

Definition of FIANCÉE

: a woman engaged to be married

[CarolAnn&Eddy 12]

I don't care how they are spending their money BUT I do care that they are clogging up the system. You shouldn't care if yoru neighbor the alchi is spending his money on beer but I bet you'll care if he always passes out cold on your driveway when you need to go to work.

VJ is very helpful, that is the contributors but it is not the bible or final word on USCIS and their intents.

Exactly! it is helpful, but as I said some people would read it as meaning something different.

Brilliant. It's not called Girlfriend Visa or that cute Bartender I met on vacation Visa.

Definition of FIANCÉ

: a man engaged to be married

Definition of FIANCÉE

: a woman engaged to be married

:thumbs:

[Grant PDX 183]

People change their minds. I don't care how well you know someone or how long a relationship is, relationships DO end. I know a couple that ended a 5 year relationship on the wedding day, and they had lived together for 4 years and paid for a big wedding. To say that just because you were committed and went through the visa process means that you MUST marry the person regardless of anything that happens in the meantime is unrealistic. I think people shouldn't take marriage or engagement lightly, but I've been in relationships that have ended that I don't believe I did take lightly. People are going to break up... to say that they should be required to marry once they've gone through the visa process is not realistic... we are all constantly learning about the partners we've chosen. If a relationship is going to end, obviously it's best that it happen before the visa is secured, but it is also better it end before marriage than after.

I don't see the 90 days as a "getting to know you period" but if you do find something out in those 90 days that you weren't aware of before and is a deal breaker, then it's best it end then prior to the marriage. There is no way you will ever know everything about your partner even if you are together for years and years. It's not realistic to say that you have to know everything about them before applying for a visa. A person can be committed but still get to know things about their partner and those things could possibly be deal breakers.. it could happen at any time. It can and does happen to people married for years, and not just because of secrets but also because people change.

Getting to know each other before the visa process would be ideal. But it still wouldn't be a guarantee that the relationship will work long term as there are NO guarantees that any relationship will last forever, even after years of "getting to know you"...

I hate to see people hurt on either side of the situation... I know I've had my share of hurt and it wasn't all due to not knowing the other person...

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I think it is too easy for people who file for the k1 to get here. As someone petitioning for my husband with a cr1 it is by far more of a difficult process before the visa is approved. I think the screening process for k1 should be just as difficult. Really isn't quite fair that is is easier and faster for couples not married.

The screening process for K1's is no easier than it is for CR1's. The only substantial difference between the two is that a CR1 has more processing at the NVC stage, while a K1 has to go through adjustment of status after coming to the US. For my wife, that meant TWO interviews - one to get the visa, and another one to get the green card. She was screened by the consulate for the first interview, and screened by USCIS for the second. I don't see how that's easy compared to a CR1.

[LinaMD 8]

No one can "bring" another person here if that person didn't want to come. Sometimes couples rush into things, other times couples that have been together for years just break up. My husband and I had lived together for over a year in a third country, have a baby together and I still had a round trip ticket becuase as much as I trust and love my husband I know that things happen. And if something was to happen during the 90 days before the I 94 expired I would not be getting on VJ trying to find another way to stay in the US, because "I left my family and loved ones back home for my fiance/e so I have nothing to go back to and the 90 days were long enough for me to get more attached to the US than my home country". Yes, I understand it would be more than tough to go through the whole process just to turn around and go back home, but at the end of the day ending a serious relationship is always though even if it doesn't require purchasing a plane ticket.

[waynelaarni 2]

I agree both sides should know each other before making a huge decision to get married, in my situation i have talked to him online and on the phone for almost 2 years and decide he wants to come meet me and that year he came for the first time, we know exactly what we were feeling that there is LOVE. So that very year he came for the first time wasnt just the first time 2 more visits that year.

People will need not to play each others feelings because coming here is not easy you have to live your family and friends behind millions mile away.

Hope everyone is honest and sincere.

[steffbry 5]

Why is it that everytime I turn around I see someone bringing a person over to the states on a K1 visa and then decide not to get married. Although I am a US Citizen I hate the fact that this is happening. People you need to make up your mind before making this commitment and spending all this money. Must be nice to have money to play with. Even more playing with peoples emotions and dreams. I am well aware that everyone does not come over in all honesty, but those that do and left to believe they are loved by the person who petitions for them to only be left in a bad situation. I feel sorry for those that come here have no family or friends only to be told I DONT WANT TO GET MARRIED ANYMORE so I guess you will have to go back. Why could you not figure that out before going that far!! Some people come from really bad living situations and really dont want to go back. There was enough love to start the situation! Geesh I just dont know what to say. Just to clarify I am married to a wonderful man from another country. We have been married for more than a year. I am glad I did not file for him till 7 months later because it made me even more sure to want to be with him and to be with him more in his environment.

Super agree! I'm off to US on the 27th and this is what we've been waiting for a long time and its finally happening. Can't wait to get married to the man of my life!

[islandgal 74]

The screening process for K1's is no easier than it is for CR1's. The only substantial difference between the two is that a CR1 has more processing at the NVC stage, while a K1 has to go through adjustment of status after coming to the US. For my wife, that meant TWO interviews - one to get the visa, and another one to get the green card. She was screened by the consulate for the first interview, and screened by USCIS for the second. I don't see how that's easy compared to a CR1.

True.... Also more money for K1 in the long run.

[Moomin 292]

I understand why there's debate about the K1 because you can't force anybody to marry - it goes both ways. That also means for some using the system that they either get a golden ticket to the US, or that the petitioner can back out at any time it's convenient. It's the whole attitude about regretting or thinking it through that annoys me the most. "try it before you buy it", giving the puppy back to the shelter, having 15 credit cards and filing bankruptcy etc. It's reflecting on people and the way they treat each other IMO.

[RobbyUSA 26]

I was wondering if we could have a Jerry Springer show episod with immigrants? ..... I would so watch that!

I'm sure you would.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

They didnt lie as far as I know. They intended to marry but didnt have concrete plans to do so before they got here. They were granted the visas by the embassy just as everyone else is.

The law indicates people must have met in person once. That is hardly enough time to get to know someone well enough to decide to marry them. I would agree the system is flawed but it serves to bring many people here to decide what they really want to do.

That's what the 90 days are for. To make those concrete plans. Not to find out if you actually like the person you told the US government you were going to marry.

Some people meet once and they're 100% sure. Some people meet five times and still aren't sure. Everyone's different. That does not mean that the K1 is for what you're suggesting it's for. If you want a trial period, visit the US. Don't get a visa to move before you're ready to.

[MangoAve 25]

There are all different cases. Its been said over an over, but a majority of foreigners believe its a better life here. Petitioners and beneficiaries do abuse the system. It's inevitable that someone will try. Some petitioners do believe that a woman from a different country is different than one he can find here. There are cultural and morale differences. Even petitioners have seen the warning signs but yet beg the foreigner to come here to marry. I cant list all the situations here, but realize that even with the best possible situation between fiances, you can learn something new about the other that wasnt prevalent before. There just happened to be a new situation that arose that your fiance showed something you can't live with them doing again and again.

And no, the 90 days is not designed as a test drive. It was set as that long to be realistic. But it does also work where you can do a slight test drive. Whatever.

[Kiv 32]

Not everybody can afford to leave their jobs for 90 days or 120 days, to see if they should go on with the plan or not.

I am sure it is more difficult for people who is bringing their kids who had to leave school.

But I am always in favor to trust my feelings, sometimes going back home is not the worst that can happen.

People can change or show how they really are when they are in their normal environment.

When I left home, my father gave me a round ticket and he told me "If he is not good to you come back, don't let him disrespect you, do not let him ever hit you, if he does, just come back, or call me and I will go for you; I will not ask questions and I will not let anybody else ask you questions"

I think he may have known I would feel ashamed if I failed and probabily would not want to go back eeven if things were not good.

( I miss my father so much this week is 4 years without him )

[bigdog 376]

Everyone says the process is too long, well it helps everyone get better acquainted, even so it is a big transition, either you leave your country, family and friends or travel, meet get a visa for your loved one and change you're life here. Either way it is a challenge and exciting. Good Luck to all.