VJ is in need of a serious make-over

[TBoneTX 45,288]

those who join this site for ulterior motives

I'm honestly curious: Please name five such (or three, or any).

A lot of sites now offer you to sign up and sign in through your FB account. This isn't anything out of left field - it is now the standard practice

I'm not on Facebook and never want to be. Why should I be compelled to sign up there to participate here?

[^_^ 5,021]

My main question that I haven't seen answered is HOW would it deter those who join this site for ulterior motives?

It wouldn't.

Oh and WHAT ulterior motives? Besides the Platinum crew and all the sockpuppets I'd suggest no one else is here with ulterior motives.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Why use those examples? There are plenty of other examples where participation is kept on topic and derailment is not tolerated.

Only in the local junior colleges do you have such artificially controlled discussions. Most universities encourage dissent, as long as it is directed toward the fascist right, and respects the commie left.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

My boyfriend is a member of another forum, and they manage to have very intelligent and often heated political discussion threads that go on for many, many pages without parties resorting to name-calling. It's probably because they actually want to debate the issues, instead of calling each other epithets. It would be a great model for VJ, but unfortunately it's probably impossible because the membership bases are quite different.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

I'm not on Facebook and never want to be. Why should I be compelled to sign up there to participate here?

You wouldn't be.

The webpages I've seen who encourage people to sign up using Facebook offer it just as an easy option. I've never seen one where you HAD to join via a Facebook account.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You wouldn't be.

The webpages I've seen who encourage people to sign up using Facebook offer it just as an easy option. I've never seen one where you HAD to join via a Facebook account.

But, Facebook does have all these applications that require you to upgrade to that timeline thing, and a few websites insist on it if you want to do this, or that. Voting on American Idol was the latest one I saw. So far, I have managed to keep my profile page, despite a couple close calls.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

But, Facebook does have all these applications that require you to upgrade to that timeline thing, and a few websites insist on it if you want to do this, or that. Voting on American Idol was the latest one I saw. So far, I have managed to keep my profile page, despite a couple close calls.

You just have to be smarter than the app.

[Pooky 3,784]

Anonymity, if desired, is one of the best points about this website. The fractious atmosphere about the P&R forum is nothing compared to some of the downright nasty goings-on that used to go on in the past.

When you have seen three longstanding members caught out discussing filing a malicious immigration fraud charge against another member, then you can see just one good reason to retain the option of anonymity.

Using the current state of P&R, which basically mirrors the divided nature of politics in this country, as a reason to abandon the possibility of anonymity, is a little lame, in my opinion. And to add that it seems to be a den of overwhelmingly right-wing opinion is laughable. There are just as many from the left as from the right, shaping every discussion that starts back to the same entrenched positions on both sides. What is missing is enough independent voices, with opinions not beholden to any political affiliation, admitted or not, to cause the political radicals to pause and think, rather than parrot the same old lines, time and again.

Lastly, for now, for those honest, or innocent enough to use their true identity on Facebook, any link to their personal information outside of this site opens up the possibility of personal dislikes/vendettas being pursued from this site onto Facebook and even beyond. That would drive away members and diminish what makes VisaJourney work.

I think it's a bad idea.

Edited June 6, 2012 by Pooky

[MyLittlePony 340]

Rules of this site are too strict they should be somewhat lose in certain areas and maybe members will come back if the iron first was lifted.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Rules of this site are too strict they should be somewhat lose in certain areas and maybe members will come back if the iron first was lifted.

Yes, bring back the losers and less iron in the diet!

[TBoneTX 45,288]

the iron first

I initially take the calcium, then the iron, si man.

[SMOKE 1,426]

I understand that a lot of well intended people here have enjoyed their anonymity, however, the downside is that this place has been a magnet for all kinds of outsiders who are here to either infiltrate this immigration website with their own anti-immigration propaganda, or just people with malicious intent.

i have to apologize for doubting you. an 'outsider' just outted themselves in the P&R forum. a mod has removed their post verifying they were 'invited' here.

eta: i have asked the mod to uninviso that post so i can link it here, to verify it to all the others that doubted you.

Edited June 19, 2012 by SMOKE

[Krikit 1,164]

The member is legit and the removed posts were out of line.

[SMOKE 1,426]

The member is legit and the removed posts were out of line.

the member stated they were invited & have a join date of may 25 2012. i'm just asking for that one post to be uninviso'd. steven deserves his due, he called it.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

People get invited? By who? I don't understand what the big deal is.