Differing Spiritual beliefs..your thoughts

[heishe 2]

I would much rather be married to a kind loving person who believes in the tooth fairy than an atheistic jerk.

I'd rather be married to a kind loving atheist.

[Welshcookie 17]

I would much rather be married to a kind loving person who believes in the tooth fairy than an atheistic jerk.

I'd rather be married to a kind loving atheist.

[heishe 2]

I could not romantically love someone with strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs. Ever. It says very powerful things about who she is as a person, what her priorities are, and whether she can deal with difficult circumstances with rationality or just with drama.

Well most religious beliefs are irrational by nature. Faith in and of itself is irrational according to what we know as human beings.

Precisely!

[Pigu 0]

heishe

[anya-D 8]

I think that her belives in the nature of the earth is not wholely base on Buddhism.. well.. i'm Buddhist and I've never heard of that stody

I think it's base more on the culture or local old story.. Thailand have some too (like the story of how the thunder came about..) and story of gods in Buddhism are actually similar to Hindu (and Local stiry in India) and then there's other famous buddhist story from China and their local believes...

Bram and I are very different by this.. I believe in spirit and he doesnt. I believe in Karma but he call it differently but same concept that doesnt relate to religion.. Sometimes Bram is curious about my believes and ask me but he is so scientific he have to ask for proof but becasue something science cannot proof so it's hard to explain. We just not talk about it. b

ecasue both of us love the way we are and that both our believes brought us to be the person that we fall inlove and accept... so it doesnt matter what he or I believe. If he doesnt understand I'd try to explain (I dont know why I understand his sciancetific way of thinking but he has more difficult time understand spiritual belives) but we most of the time leave this subject alone.

[rclouse 0]

Here's one way to deal with it:

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[heishe 2]

heishe

Pigu

I love you baby

[pedroh 21]

science can PWN that there arent people living in the center of the earth..

there's not better thing thant PWNING someones belief.. lolol... wife, son, brother.. PWN!

[ieldanth 0]

I could not romantically love someone with strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs. Ever. It says very powerful things about who she is as a person, what her priorities are, and whether she can deal with difficult circumstances with rationality or just with drama.

Similarly, I could not marry a Vulcan, someone who's world is nothing but logic and reason. Speaks volumes about how they react to events that have no rational explanation. However, I understand that there is no such thing as either of our examples and that people are generally a mixture of the two. There is a bit of the rational and irrational in all of us. Your post bears this out.

[heishe 2]

I could not romantically love someone with strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs. Ever. It says very powerful things about who she is as a person, what her priorities are, and whether she can deal with difficult circumstances with rationality or just with drama.

Similarly, I could not marry a Vulcan, someone who's world is nothing but logic and reason. Speaks volumes about how they react to events that have no rational explanation. However, I understand that there is no such thing as either of our examples and that people are generally a mixture of the two. There is a bit of the rational and irrational in all of us. Your post bears this out.

But there really are people without strong religious beliefs. This does not make them unfeeling automatons. It just means they don't have any religious faith, and they don't blame some mystical force when things they can't understand happen.

Edited October 14, 2006 by heishe

[Pigu 0]

However, I understand that there is no such thing as either of our examples

You don't believe there's anyone with "strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs"? Maybe you misread.

[ieldanth 0]

I could not romantically love someone with strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs. Ever. It says very powerful things about who she is as a person, what her priorities are, and whether she can deal with difficult circumstances with rationality or just with drama.

Similarly, I could not marry a Vulcan, someone who's world is nothing but logic and reason. Speaks volumes about how they react to events that have no rational explanation. However, I understand that there is no such thing as either of our examples and that people are generally a mixture of the two. There is a bit of the rational and irrational in all of us. Your post bears this out.

But there really are people without strong religious beliefs. This does not make them unfeeling automatons. It just means they don't have any religious faith, and they don't blame some mystical force when things they can't understand happen.

Read the entire post. I did not question whether people with or without strong beliefs, religious or otherwise, exist, just how they are pigeonholed into pure rational/pure irrational behaviors.

The original post above asserts that anyone who has strong religious beliefs will unfailingly confront difficult situations with nothing but pure drama. That itself is an irrational conclusion made by someone who apparently cherishes rationality and thus proves my point.

[Pigu 0]

Read the entire post. I did not question whether people with or without strong beliefs, religious or otherwise, exist

Yes you did.

The original post above asserts that anyone who has strong religious beliefs will unfailingly confront difficult situations with nothing but pure drama.

No it doesn't.

[ieldanth 0]

The original post above asserts that anyone who has strong religious beliefs will unfailingly confront difficult situations with nothing but pure drama.

No it doesn't.

"I could not romantically love someone with strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs. Ever. It says very powerful things about who she is as a person, what her priorities are, and whether she can deal with difficult circumstances with rationality or just with drama."

Since you believe that all religious beliefs are irrational, we can derive that, to you, religious beliefs fall under a subset of irrational beliefs and so 'irrational religious' could be considered redundant. Likewise, 'unquestionable' would be a subset of 'strong' beliefs. Therefore, what we have is 'someone with strong irrational beliefs' minus the modifiers 'religious' and 'unquestionable' which are fairly redundant to the above mentioned terms according to your demonstrated beliefs as noted further in the thread. The relevant term becomes 'irrational' in your last sentence when you differentiate between a person who handles difficult situations rationally versus one who handles them with just drama. Since you ascribe irrational behavior to the person in question, you would of course not be applying the rational response, so we are left with the notion that they handle situations just with drama. Therefore, you assert that someone with strong religious beliefs would unfailingly handle those situations with just drama by definition.

In short, yes it does.

As for the other, you have to show where I asserted that strongly religious people do not exist. I will not be attempting to prove a negative.

In short, no I didn't. (neener neener neener)

[heishe 2]

I could not romantically love someone with strong, unquestionable, irrational religious beliefs. Ever. It says very powerful things about who she is as a person, what her priorities are, and whether she can deal with difficult circumstances with rationality or just with drama.

Similarly, I could not marry a Vulcan, someone who's world is nothing but logic and reason. Speaks volumes about how they react to events that have no rational explanation. However, I understand that there is no such thing as either of our examples and that people are generally a mixture of the two. There is a bit of the rational and irrational in all of us. Your post bears this out.

But there really are people without strong religious beliefs. This does not make them unfeeling automatons. It just means they don't have any religious faith, and they don't blame some mystical force when things they can't understand happen.

Read the entire post. I did not question whether people with or without strong beliefs, religious or otherwise, exist, just how they are pigeonholed into pure rational/pure irrational behaviors.

The original post above asserts that anyone who has strong religious beliefs will unfailingly confront difficult situations with nothing but pure drama. That itself is an irrational conclusion made by someone who apparently cherishes rationality and thus proves my point.

"However, I understand that there is no such thing as either of our examples" <---