TOP RIGHT-WING GROUP: Minority Births Are "Not A Good Thing," They "Don’t Share American Values"

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

one personal attack removed, along with two quoting

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[elmcitymaven 9,712]

If it works then stick with it.

btw I wasn't knocking her, I was simply asking a question.

Asking me what you did sounds like an attack on me. And clearly it sounded like an attack to someone else because I didn't report it.

Edited so as not include the original attack.

Edited May 25, 2012 by Honey Crumpet

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Asking me what you did sounds like an attack on me. And clearly it sounded like an attack to someone else because I didn't report it.

Edited so as not include the original attack.

I blame AJ. He seems to be lurking an awful lot lately.

[tmma 467]

I didn't report it either because I am a huge believer in letting people's words illustrate just what a complete azzhat they can be.

[slim 1,525]

Gee, I'll have to ask my left-wing nutjob "slanty-eyed" boyfriend if he's a Republican. Last time I checked he wasn't but I haven't seen him in two days, so things may have changed.

I wish my wife would be gone for days at a time.

I didn't report it either because I am a huge believer in letting people's words illustrate just what a complete azzhat they can be.

Thanks!

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I wish my wife would be gone for days at a time.

I've found a perfect solution: don't live with the person.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I've found a perfect solution: don't live with the person.

I am negotiating for separate vacations. Our fifth anniversary is this year, so I think I am entitled, but she doesn't.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I am negotiating for separate vacations. Our fifth anniversary is this year, so I think I am entitled, but she doesn't.

Yeah women seem to forget you were two different people when you came into the relationship.

They don't seem to understand that it's OK to go to difference places alone and nothing is going to happen.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Yeah some women seem to forget you were two different people when you came into the relationship.

They don't seem to understand that it's OK to go to difference places alone and nothing is going to happen.

Fixxored that for you.

I am negotiating for separate vacations. Our fifth anniversary is this year, so I think I am entitled, but she doesn't.

My parents have done this regularly for the past 30 years. They enjoy time away from each other and then appreciate each other more when they're reunited. Also, they don't have to pay a kennel to board 3 dogs.

They're about to celebrate their 43rd wedding anniversary so I guess it works!

[james&olya 1,121]

Why must murder be the first course of action with you folks?

I prefer the much more civilized and logical route of sensible immigration and protection of our borders that our national composition will maintain it's historical balance.

Not that I don't appreciate the well thought out comments but.... why not answer the questions?

It figures you might not understand the concept of a rhetorical question! But then you go and use one in your post!

[jaycali 415]

It is not a good thing. The immigrants do not share American values, so it is a good bet that they will not be voting Republican when they start voting in large numbers.[...]Instead, the USA is being transformed by immigrants who do not share those values, and who have high rates of illiteracy, illegitimacy, and gang crime, and they will vote Democrat when the Democrats promise them more food stamps.

Since when exactly did minority become synonymous to immigrant? Most non-whites in the US are not immigrants, unless you count people born and raised in the US as immigrants.

Edited May 26, 2012 by jaejayC

[Danno 1,228]

It figures you might not understand the concept of a rhetorical question! But then you go and use one in your post!

Still posting but not answering the fundamental questions this thread was based on.

Well, I guess something better than nothing.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Still posting but not answering the fundamental questions this thread was based on.

That fundamental question being what? Whether minorities demonstrate their lack of American values by not voting Republican?

[Danno 1,228]

That fundamental question being what? Whether minorities demonstrate their lack of American values by not voting Republican?

Since you are stumbling, let me repost the questions.

Certain claims were made such as:

the USA is being transformed by immigrants who do not share those values, and who have high rates of illiteracy, illegitimacy, and gang crime, and they will vote Democrat when the Democrats promise them more food stamps

Are they in fact less likely to claim the American flag as their sole loyalty?

Are they more likely to be illiterate... which translates "taker" rather than giver?

Are they more likely to be in gangs and crime?

Or have more fatherless children which become wards of the state and then... the criminal justice system?

Do they in fact vote for the candidates which promise more govt dependency or less?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The Philadelphia Nativist Riots

THE PHILADELPHIA NATIVIST RIOTS

By Margaret E. Fitzgerald, PhD

On Friday, May 3, 1844, the American Nativist Party, (aka American Republican Party), set up a platform in the almost one hundred percent Irish Third Ward of Kensington, a Philadelphia suburb. Speakers delivered tirades against the Irish, the Pope, the Catholic Church, and the immigrants. The theme was that "a set of citizens, German and Irish, wanted to get the Constitution of the U. S. into their own hands and sell it to a foreign power." The crowd jeered and began to tear down the platform. The Nativists retreated temporarily.

Philadelphia was a hotbed of natives for years. The American Nativist Party allied itself with the American Protestant Association in propagating a conspiracy theory: the Pope was planning to take over America. The Irish were considered the most dangerous immigrants since they had demonstrated loyalty to the Pope through centuries of persecution and might rise on a signal from Rome for either a bloody conquest or a political takeover at the ballot box.

Leaving the most virulent anti-Catholic rhetoric to some evangelical Protestant clergy in the American Protestant Association/ the American Nativist Party claimed that its overriding concern was good government. It opposed immigrants only because they corrupted the republican principles of the founding fathers. The Nativists drafted a three-plank party platform:

1. To extend the period of naturalization to twenty-one years;

2. To elect only native born to all offices;

3. To reject foreign interference in all institutions, social, religious, and political.

The Nativists who retreated from Kensington on May 3 returned on May 6, now three thousand strong. Speakers raised the flag and ranted about foreign religious influence in politics. Few Irish were in attendance since they had been told at Sunday Mass to go about their business and avoid confrontation. When a speaker called the Irish "scum unloaded on American wharfs," the only disruption was humorous: an Irish carter, with an innocent air, dumped a load of dirt a dozen feet from the platform.

Heavy rain sent the crowd scurrying around the corner to take shelter in Nanny Goat Market. When a speaker jumped onto a stall and continued with inflammatory remarks, fighting broke out. The odds of only 30 Irish against 3000 Nativist were improved when other Irish started sniping from buildings. Many were injured on both sides and two Nativists were fatally wounded.

The sheriff and his deputies, who carried only clubs, not guns, were ineffective. The Nativists broke into houses, tore apart furniture, destroyed buildings, beat residents, and drove Irish families into the woods at night. Two more Nativists were killed during attacks on a seminary and a church.

The next day the Nativist press called on all good Americans to defend themselves against the "the bloody hand of the Pope." Handbills asked every Nativist to come prepared to defend himself. The Nativists again marched on Kensington and gunfire was met with gunfire. The invaders spent the night burning down houses block by block. On Wednesday they brought their arson tactics to the weavers' streets. Some Irish Protestant weavers, who had first sided with their brothers of the loom rather than their brothers of the Orange Lodge, had second thoughts. To protect their homes and shops, and to show that they were "patriots," they displayed American flags and Native American insignia in their windows.

Flushed with victory, the Nativists again attacked and burned to the ground St. Michael's Church and rectory, as well as St. Charles Seminary. They cheered a falling steeple, while a fife and drum group played "Boyne Water." With little left to burn in Kensington, they marched back to Philadelphia and burned down St. Augustine's Church. On the way they passed a German Catholic Church and never touched it.

Rioting in Irish Kensington was one thing, but rioting in elite Philadelphia was another, especially when the Mayor was stoned as he tried to calm the mobs. Martial law was enforced for a week. Troops guarded churches.

Dublin-born Bishop Francis Kenrick tried to defuse the situation by closing all churches on the Sunday after the attacks. Declaring that it was better to let all churches burn than shed one drop of blood, he counseled Catholics to take no action and offer no resistance. He also asked his flock to trust the better instincts of the government leaders who were making arrests and having jury trials. The bishop had illusions. The all non-Irish and non-Catholic juries acquitted every Nativist and convicted Irish Catholics. The grand jury blamed the Irish for the riots; the alien and ignorant customs of the lowborn Irish were a provocation to good clean-living Americans.

Following several threats from hostile crowds, the parishioners of St. Philip Neri Church in Southwark, another Philadelphia suburb, got permission from the governor to form a militia and draw twenty muskets from the arsenal. Thousands of enraged Nativists marched on Southwark a day after they had shown their strength with a gigantic July 4 parade; a parade that was very pro-American, very anti-Irish, and very anti-Catholic.

St. Philip's was doomed. The sheriff confiscated the arms of its Irish defenders. He didn't dare confiscate the arms of the Nativists, or the cannons they brought from the docks. The sheriff accepted the offer of the Nativist leaders to guard the church if the defenders left. This was like letting the fox guard the chickens.

The Irish were badly beaten as they were evacuated. The crowds thronged in, set fires, slashed holy pictures, destroyed valuable paintings, and desecrated holy objects. The militia general who belatedly tried to stop the destruction had his troops fired on and killed. A later commission of inquiry blamed the general for favoring immigrants and trampling on the rights of Native Americans.

As the attacks continued in Philadelphia, Nativists threatened New York City. Tyrone-born Bishop John Hughes told the Nativist Mayor that he was sending Irish volunteers to defend the churches and that, if one Catholic Church was burned, "New York would be another Moscow." "Dagger-John" was known to be a man of his word and no churches were burned.

Yet, the Nativists were not defeated. Winning control in eastern cities, they reformed in the 1850s as the Know-Nothings. The Party itself died out, but Nativist sentiments did not. The heirs of the Nativists can be found today in groups that are anti-Catholic, anti-immigrant, and anti-Irish.

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