Witness Testimony Reveals George Zimmerman As A Bully And Racist who was Fired for Being A Bully and a Racist

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

You seem to want to believe that I'm some sort of liberal against guns. I have nothing against protecting oneself. I considered owning one myself when I was single and lived alone. All of my brothers own guns for protection and hunting and so forth. But they're not mental cases like Zimmerman. And there's alot of evidence out there that indicates to me that he is in fact off his rocker. I think it IS a problem for someone with his history of nutcase, aggressive behavior to be toting a gun around.

Whether he's a nut case or not isn't the question. The question will be did he or did he not shoot Martin to protect his life. I read post on this board about him not seeking medical help ASAP, how could he draw a gun while fighting, etc, etc, etc..

So many things can happen in a short span when your fighting. The adrenaline is off the meter and everything is a blur. Whatever happens when your fighting happens fast and it comes down to survival instinct and reaction.

[sandinista! 1,816]

That's why smart people avoid those kinds of completely unnecessary conflicts in the first place, and stay in their damn cars when they've been assured the cops their ridiculous, pantywaist self has called are enroute.

"everything happens for a reason,and sometimes that reason is that you're stupid and make bad decisions"

[웃 910]

Whether he's a nut case or not isn't the question. The question will be did he or did he not shoot Martin to protect his life. I read post on this board about him not seeking medical help ASAP, how could he draw a gun while fighting, etc, etc, etc..

So many things can happen in a short span when your fighting. The adrenaline is off the meter and everything is a blur. Whatever happens when your fighting happens fast and it comes down to survival instinct and reaction.

How many fights have you been in? You think it is ok to kill someone within 10 seconds of every fight? That this is "protecting a life?"

Zimmerman panicked, he was trigger happy, or maybe just so irate before he realized it he murdered an unarmed teen that he harassed in the first place....I will be very pleased to have that idiot locked up for the next 70 years in solitary confinement!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

How many fights have you been in? You think it is ok to kill someone within 10 seconds of every fight? That this is "protecting a life?"

Zimmerman panicked, he was trigger happy, or maybe just so irate before he realized it he murdered an unarmed teen that he harassed in the first place....I will be very pleased to have that idiot locked up for the next 70 years in solitary confinement!

I think Martin put him down, and got in a few punches. When Martin let him go, and stood up, Zimmerman pulled his gun and shot him in retaliation. If that is the case, that is Murder Two. That fits Zimmerman's history of going berserk when confronted.

Edited May 20, 2012 by ☼

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If he had an arm free, he could have pulled it and rotated it at the same time while firing. He was shot in the chest right?

It would be interesting what type of holster he had, I assume its probably an inside the waist band type and not a pocket version.

If we are to believe Zimmerman's account, Martin was on top of him, bashing his head into the concrete. The lead investigator had Zimmerman try to demonstrate just how that happened and then wanted to arrest him. There are many factors that work against Zimmerman's claim:

• Martin had both hands holding something at the time of the confrontation - a cell phone which he was talking on, and a glass bottle of iced tea.
• Glass bottle was found near Martin's body, unbroken.
• There was only one laceration on Martin's hands - small cut on his left ring finger, below the knuckle.
• Zimmerman's blood was found under Martin's nails , and...
• The lacerations on Zimmerman's head are more consistent with being scratched or clawed, rather than being pummeled.
• The condition of the bag of Skittles, bottle of Snapple and Martin's cell phone - all left in tact and found near Martin's body.

If Martin were clearly the aggressor, where is the evidence?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If we are to believe Zimmerman's account, Martin was on top of him, bashing his head into the concrete. The lead investigator had Zimmerman try to demonstrate just how that happened and then wanted to arrest him. There are many factors that work against Zimmerman's claim:

• Martin had both hands holding something at the time of the confrontation - a cell phone which he was talking on, and a glass bottle of iced tea.
• Glass bottle was found near Martin's body, unbroken.
• There was only one laceration on Martin's hands - small cut on his left ring finger, below the knuckle.
• Zimmerman's blood was found under Martin's nails , and...
• The lacerations on Zimmerman's head are more consistent with being scratched or clawed, rather than being pummeled.
• The condition of the bag of Skittles, bottle of Snapple and Martin's cell phone - all left in tact and found near Martin's body.

If Martin were clearly the aggressor, where is the evidence?

Could be Zimmerman, after shooting Martin, beat his own head again the ground, after realizing what he had just done.

[xebec 195]

Ha! You guys are a hoot! Sounds like you're brainstorming a bad "law and order" teleplay..... Enjoy your collective hoplophobic circle-jerk.

[Tygrys 143]

I think Martin put him down, and got in a few punches. When Martin let him go, and stood up, Zimmerman pulled his gun and shot him in retaliation. If that is the case, that is Murder Two. That fits Zimmerman's history of going berserk when confronted.

But doesn't fit the finding that Martin was shot from at most 18 inches distance

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

But doesn't fit the finding that Martin was shot from at most 18 inches distance

Depends on the definition of intermediate range, which is the range up to which the round will leave a residue. The range is the distance from the muzzle to contact with the target, not the distance between Zimmerman and Martin. Somebody pulled 18 inches out of their #######. The caliber, length of barrel and type of rifling, powder and bullet used, as well as variances in manufacturing will all affect that distance. Ballistic tests will determine the range fairly accurately.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

If we are to believe Zimmerman's account, Martin was on top of him, bashing his head into the concrete. The lead investigator had Zimmerman try to demonstrate just how that happened and then wanted to arrest him. There are many factors that work against Zimmerman's claim:

• Martin had both hands holding something at the time of the confrontation - a cell phone which he was talking on, and a glass bottle of iced tea.
• Glass bottle was found near Martin's body, unbroken.
• There was only one laceration on Martin's hands - small cut on his left ring finger, below the knuckle.
• Zimmerman's blood was found under Martin's nails , and...
• The lacerations on Zimmerman's head are more consistent with being scratched or clawed, rather than being pummeled.
• The condition of the bag of Skittles, bottle of Snapple and Martin's cell phone - all left in tact and found near Martin's body.

If Martin were clearly the aggressor, where is the evidence?

He would have dropped both, in fact the girlfriend heard the phone hit the ground. The ground was wet which explains why the bottle would not break (i've dropped one of those bottles on asphalt btw). Whilst he definately could have clawed at Zimmerman, some damage like his nose is consistent with punches. Also a witness said Martin used "martial arts like" attacks. One reason I have trouble with seeing Zimmerman as the first attacker is that there is no damage on Martin's body to indicate he had taken a punch, kick what have you. I don't think martin released Zimmerman and got up because its not consistent with the ballistics (between 1 and 18").

I also don't think Zimmerman ever intended to kill Martin as it is illogical with the police coming. Through Martin's phone you can hear Zimmerman say something along the lines of "Hey what are you doing here" had Martin replied and said I live here my guess is it would have ended there. Did the THC impair his judgement?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Depends on the definition of intermediate range, which is the range up to which the round will leave a residue. The range is the distance from the muzzle to contact with the target, not the distance between Zimmerman and Martin. Somebody pulled 18 inches out of their #######. The caliber, length of barrel and type of rifling, powder and bullet used, as well as variances in manufacturing will all affect that distance. Ballistic tests will determine the range fairly accurately.

Dr. Michael Baden the former NYC medical examiner defined that distance. Anything beyond 18" would be considered "distant".

Edited May 20, 2012 by Sousuke

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Did the THC impair his judgement?

The THC levels found suggested Martin hadn't ingested any marijuana in several days. However, Zimmerman's judgement may have been impaired by the various medications he was taking.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Dr. Michael Baden the former NYC medical examiner defined that distance. Anything beyond 18" would be considered "distant".

Link.

Most handguns produce stippling when the skin-to- muzzle distance is 0.5 centimeter to 1 meter.

http://books.google.com/books?id=KMfs_ezuWdMC&pg=PA48&dq=bullet+wound+intermediate+range+distance+inches&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7DK5T5ilG5HUiAKwuKCMBw&ved=0CFUQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=bullet%20wound%20intermediate%20range%20distance%20inches&f=false

[PMartin37 161]

He would have dropped both, in fact the girlfriend heard the phone hit the ground. The ground was wet which explains why the bottle would not break (i've dropped one of those bottles on asphalt btw). Whilst he definately could have clawed at Zimmerman, some damage like his nose is consistent with punches. Also a witness said Martin used "martial arts like" attacks. One reason I have trouble with seeing Zimmerman as the first attacker is that there is no damage on Martin's body to indicate he had taken a punch, kick what have you. I don't think martin released Zimmerman and got up because its not consistent with the ballistics (between 1 and 18").

I also don't think Zimmerman ever intended to kill Martin as it is illogical with the police coming.[/b] The first witness available after the incident said Zimmerman's first words were "Call the police. I shot this guy in self-defense". That sounds like a deliberate choice of words IMO. Through Martin's phone you can hear Zimmerman say something along the lines of "Hey what are you doing here" Followed by a bump- according to Martin's gf testimony- perhaps he was shoved? which would knock his cell phone out of his hand and indicate MARTIN was being attacked first.had Martin replied and said I live here my guess is it would have ended there. Did the THC impair his judgement?

[PMartin37 161]

Incidentally... I haven't seen one photo from the evidence that suggests to me black eyes. Where are his black eyes? He was supposed to be beaten severely suggesting he was in fear for his life.