Separate rules for mods?

[rade2rising 205]

mods should always TRY BEST to remain unbias but at times yes things can happen we are all humans. but once mod is doing good job 99% of time then its great.

no one is perfect.

its easy to blame mods but first try to look at urself and see what you can differently

when there are ppl fighting in topics and mod has to come and choose what to edit, delete, ban etc of course not EVERYONE will EVER agree with the decisions made.

just live with it just like you have to live with obama being your president, we criticize and ridicule but still most of us live here in USA.

leave mods alone. try to become a better member and make the site better. its very easy to find someone to pin the blame on. stop playing the blame game and abide by the rules.

everyone read the same TOS when they sign up. just delete your account and go to another site if you dont like how things are handled here. its that simple.

RESPECT THE MODS

[Tinchen_ 21]

maybe they running mad on power lol hehehehehe j/k

i mean when u start a thread and ask for responds. u should be able to read different kind of answers. its a forum its on the internet. it shouldn't be censored. as long there is no name calling and that its fine.

when some ppl think is something fishy about the thread let them speak it. isnt it freedom of speech??? i think so lol

[Harsh_77 718]

Separate rules...

Like when I respond to a specific post by a certain mod's buddy and equate it to racism, my post gets deleted, and that mod claims it's a violation of the TOS.

Yet when I am called an anti-Semite, a terror supporter, and all sorts of other hysterical nonsense, that same certain mod claims oh that's just an "opinion which may or may not be correct and therefore not a violation of the TOS."

Still have the PMs.

LMAO.

I have had similar occurence too... when I questioned a mod why he shut me out of the thread what T&C did I violate his response was I was arguing hmmm did not know telling someone the right purpose is arguing...lol

I have that in message from mod....did not know engaging in discussion was against the T&C

[^_^ 5,021]

Rade is sucking up…… big time

you better be careful you will completely banned when he becomes mod....

There is precedent on VJ of a member pining for the job for a very long time and then actually getting it.

[SMOKE 1,426]

There is precedent on VJ of a member pining for the job for a very long time and then actually getting it.

yup. 2X i know of

eta: one was a long campaign the other was pretty quick.

Edited May 31, 2012 by SMOKE

[Iyawo Ijebu 157]

Sorry, I've been away a few days recovering from surgery (nothing serious, don't worry). Nina is right. There is no 'one rule for mods; another rule for everyone else'. We are all bound by the same rules and TOS both when we act as moderators and when we post as regular members. Even though we post as regular members, it is sometimes easy for us to forget - through our familiarity with members and the site - that others are not going to have the same sense of the site as we do. It is easy, therefore, for us to appear to cross the boundaries that we try to ensure are observed by everyone else.

I've read the thread linked above and agree that while context is important, and using the term noob can be used playfully between friends, or sarcastically towards a newcomer, someone not familiar with the nuances isn't going to see the difference and the teasing post can be interpreted as malicious. I have removed the post involved even though it was not meant as a personal attack because it is open to misinterpretation as shown by this thread and left a comment to that effect in the thread.

I will add that some of our longer term members who have become familiar with each other and exchange similar sorts of 'teasing' have complained to us in the past when we have removed their teasing posts as well for the very same reason - that someone new to the site is not likely to understand the context and will feel it is a personal attack. It is easy to be so comfortable with other posters - whether you are a mod or not - that you sometimes forget what it looks like to someone not in the 'know'.

On another matter, I certainly hope that I don't have a 'clique'. I have personal exchanges with a lot of members here, some long time and some newer, but I think they will tell you that this does not make them exempt from moderation if they are in a situation that requires it. I try to do my best to keep those two relationships separate. I try to give the benefit of the doubt to everyone, if I can, but those with whom I have friendly relationships don't get special benefits. And, none of them have ever requested or expected any.

This post should be required reading for all mods in the interest of customer service. You see how nice you explained the process? You didn't come in and tell us to shove off if we don't like it like some other mod.

Certain mods need to understand that it's possible to can walk softly and still carry a big stick.

[^_^ 5,021]

yup. 2X i know of

eta: one was a long campaign the other was pretty quick.

Yes. I had forgotten about the quick one.

This post should be required reading for all mods in the interest of customer service. You see how nice you explained the process? You didn't come in and tell us to shove off if we don't like it like some other mod.

Certain mods need to understand that it's possible to can walk softly and still carry a big stick.

If you like mods with big sticks, you need to join the "Eric for mod" campaign.

Edited May 31, 2012 by \

[rade2rising 205]

hmmm the bottom line is stop being part of the problem and be a part of the solution

everyone just relax and enjoy the forums

[^_^ 5,021]

hmmm the bottom line is stop being part of the problem and be a part of the solution

everyone just relax and enjoy the forums

No more fortune cookies for you.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

If I were to leave constructive criticism in this thread, it would simply be a request that if a non habitual TOS violator has committed some form of violation, send a PM and communicate with the person first to get all the facts about intent.

I think half the time that posters fly off the handle and start posting here in the site discussion section is due to the fact there wasn't any proper communication.

I think back to my time here and note that in the past I've received two administrative actions, the second of which I received an apology afterwards based on intent. Even the first was basically because I tried to communicate about a moderator dispute in public by opening a new thread which obviously I know better now that such things should be left to PM.

Most of the time open communication would cool people off quickly and then you could avoid rants in other areas, further suspensions etc.

Basically...

1. look at the violation

2. Verify the users past behavior

3. Unless they are causing repeated disruption, contact via PM first.

4. If the intent is clear and they meant to violate TOS then use the mod button.

More communication, less button pressing basically.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

If I were to leave constructive criticism in this thread, it would simply be a request that if a non habitual TOS violator has committed some form of violation, send a PM and communicate with the person first to get all the facts about intent.

I think half the time that posters fly off the handle and start posting here in the site discussion section is due to the fact there wasn't any proper communication.

I think back to my time here and note that in the past I've received two administrative actions, the second of which I received an apology afterwards based on intent. Even the first was basically because I tried to communicate about a moderator dispute in public by opening a new thread which obviously I know better now that such things should be left to PM.

Most of the time open communication would cool people off quickly and then you could avoid rants in other areas, further suspensions etc.

Basically...

1. look at the violation

2. Verify the users past behavior

3. Unless they are causing repeated disruption, contact via PM first.

4. If the intent is clear and they meant to violate TOS then use the mod button.

More communication, less button pressing basically.

I think this is really constructive criticism. I would have given you a +1 but I'm out for the day.

[TBoneTX 45,288]

I think this is really constructive criticism. I would have given you a +1 but I'm out for the day.

I gave him one, see man, si man.

[Stu4Lee 66]

You're going to be in so much trouble when rade becomes a moderator.

I doubt anyone is worried that will happen

[aaydrian 479]

This thread...is still open? By the miracles of miracles someone is getting Tinka points.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I gave him one, see man, si man.

Excellent! I've now given him one as well.