Fill for AOS with my new name or my maiden?

[Lainie B 465]

So we should put my wifes new name (my last name) on g325 to as her family name? Thought we where done but I geuss were not..lol

Yes

[Teddy B 17,252]

All insurance. Health, dental, car, they all require SSN.

This is absolutely false. Not only was my wife on my health insurance without a SSN, she was on my auto insurance also.

[Teddy B 17,252]

Does a noncitizen need a Social Security number?

Unless you are a noncitizen who wants to work in the United States, you probably do not need a Social Security number.

Generally, only noncitizens authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number. Social Security numbers are used to report an individual�s wages to the government and to determine a person�s eligibility for Social Security benefits. You need a Social Security number to work, collect Social Security benefits and receive some other government services.

Lawfully admitted noncitizens can get many benefits and services without a Social Security number. You do not need a number to get a driver�s license, register for school, obtain private health insurance, or to apply for school lunch programs or subsidized housing.

Some organizations use Social Security numbers to identify you in their records. Most, however, will identify you by some other means if you request it.

We cannot assign you a Social Security number solely so you can get a driver�s license or a service that requires a credit check.

Although many companies, such as banks and credit companies, may ask for your Social Security number, you generally are not required to provide one if you don�t have one.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10096.html#a0=0

[Penny Lane 8,159]

No, there was no HR department. The DMV wouldn't issue me a learners permit without a SSN either. The bank wouldn't add me to my husbands bank account without assurance that I would promptly give them my SSN. SSN's are needed for many things other than working.

This was my experience also. Could I have fought it and been added without my SSN? Sure. Probably. Or I could spend 15 minutes at the SSA and get my card less than a week later. Had my number the next day.

[rocks 494]

This is absolutely false. Not only was my wife on my health insurance without a SSN, she was on my auto insurance also.

I don't know why you are being so aggressive, there really is no need for it. I had to have SSN for the things I have already listed, bank, insurance, drivers license, this is not false, this is what happened... Have you ever tried arguing with someone at the DMV or insurance company or the bank? It doesn't get you very far. As Coconuts said, it was much easier to get a SSN...

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

So we should put my wifes new name (my last name) on g325 to as her family name? Thought we where done but I geuss were not..lol

If she is going to legally use her married name from now on, then yes, you need to put her married name on all the AOS forms and not just the G325a. That will be the name her EAD and green card will be issued with.

The op is here asking how to fill out the forms for her greencard, the SSN was brought up by another poster. The op's main focus was on her application, a SSN has nothing to do with her greencard application, it is not important in the context of her original post.

You seem to misread a lot of things. The OP is the one that asked about the SSN as well. You do not need an SSN to file for AOS, but you are perfectly able and eligible to go get one up until 2 weeks before your I-94 expires, or after receiving your EAD or green card. The OP did not ask if they need it to file for AOS. They asked when they could get one. They were answered correctly.

This is absolutely false. Not only was my wife on my health insurance without a SSN, she was on my auto insurance also.

Your wonderful anecdotal evidence does not make it completely false for everyone one else. Most places insist on having the SSN. Why bother trying to fight them over it, or wait until later to get your license, bank accounts and insurance if you are perfectly eligible as a K-1 visa entrant to simply go to the SSA and apply for one 10-14 days after arriving in the US? You are entitled to one, so why are you so adamant that people should not bother with filing for something they can easily obtain?

Does a noncitizen need a Social Security number?

Unless you are a noncitizen who wants to work in the United States, you probably do not need a Social Security number.

Generally, only noncitizens authorized to work in the United States by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) can get a Social Security number. Social Security numbers are used to report an individual�s wages to the government and to determine a person�s eligibility for Social Security benefits. You need a Social Security number to work, collect Social Security benefits and receive some other government services.

Lawfully admitted noncitizens can get many benefits and services without a Social Security number. You do not need a number to get a driver�s license, register for school, obtain private health insurance, or to apply for school lunch programs or subsidized housing.

Some organizations use Social Security numbers to identify you in their records. Most, however, will identify you by some other means if you request it.

We cannot assign you a Social Security number solely so you can get a driver�s license or a service that requires a credit check.

Although many companies, such as banks and credit companies, may ask for your Social Security number, you generally are not required to provide one if you don�t have one.

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10096.html#a0=0

A K-1 entrant is eligible to work in the US, and that is the reason they are given an SSN. A K-1 checks off on the form: Legal alien allowed to work. When you get your EAD, you can then begin working without having to wait for your green card and then applying for the SSN.

Just to add one last time, what worked for you is not how it works for everyone, and most people find the opposite of your experience to be true. Also getting a license is different for each state. They all have their own laws and procedures. In my state, you cannot get a license without an SSN, and the name on your SSN must match the name on the rest of your legal documents. For example, if you are using your married name, then the married name on the SS card must be exactly at it is on the marriage certificate.

There is no reason to tell people not to bother getting something they are eligible for that can help start getting established in the US and preparing all those co-mingling documents needed for AOS interview(if they have one) and ROC.

[Teddy B 17,252]

I don't know why you are being so aggressive, there really is no need for it. I had to have SSN for the things I have already listed, bank, insurance, drivers license, this is not false, this is what happened... Have you ever tried arguing with someone at the DMV or insurance company or the bank? It doesn't get you very far. As Coconuts said, it was much easier to get a SSN...

I'm nowhere near being aggressive, just posting the facts that you seem to be so willing to dismiss. You are giving people false information by telling them a SSN is required for all of these things, it's not. I posted it right from the US Social Security website what the rules are, just because you chose to ignore them and take a different path doesn't mean that they don't exist. I didn't have to argue with anyone to give my wife the services I listed without her having a SSN.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I'm nowhere near being aggressive, just posting the facts that you seem to be so willing to dismiss. You are giving people false information by telling them a SSN is required for all of these things, it's not. I posted it right from the US Social Security website what the rules are, just because you chose to ignore them and take a different path doesn't mean that they don't exist. I didn't have to argue with anyone to give my wife the services I listed without her having a SSN.

Again, your experience does not mean that everyone else will have the same experience. Unfortunately, not everyone is like you. Not everyone gets their greencard within three months of applying. Not everyone gets all their accounts/insurance/licenses without their SSN.

All we are saying is you are acting as if work is the only benefit the SSN has and that is false. It is up to people when they apply for one, but a lot of people generally find it easier to obtain things WITH an SSN. That's all.

It's easy to get, so why not?

Edited May 11, 2012 by Coconuts

[rocks 494]

I'm nowhere near being aggressive, just posting the facts that you seem to be so willing to dismiss. You are giving people false information by telling them a SSN is required for all of these things, it's not. I posted it right from the US Social Security website what the rules are, just because you chose to ignore them and take a different path doesn't mean that they don't exist. I didn't have to argue with anyone to give my wife the services I listed without her having a SSN.

Yes, you are being aggressive. I already told you I was unable to do any of those things without a SSN. You seem to have ignored these facts.

Make sure you put your maiden name under other names used on the form.

This is correct

I would advise against this, it will only allow for mistakes to be made by USCIS. Your maiden name and married name will all be on the proper forms.

If you have a job lined up and plan on working immediately, then you can go now and get one in your maiden name. If not, I would wait until after you're married and you get your greencard, there's no rush for a SSN other than employment. There's no need to do it twice, just to change names.

This is incorrect. You advised the OP to fill their forms out incorrectly, which is not helpful. As I have said numerous times now, you need a SSN for more than just working.

[rocks 494]

Again, your experience does not mean that everyone else will have the same experience. Unfortunately, not everyone is like you. Not everyone gets their greencard within three months of applying. Not everyone gets all their accounts/insurance/licenses without their SSN.

All we are saying is you are acting as if work is the only benefit the SSN has and that is false. It is up to people when they apply for one, but a lot of people generally find it easier to obtain things WITH an SSN. That's all.

It's easy to get, so why not?

Exactly. It was a very painless experience, unlike going to the DMV.

[Teddy B 17,252]

You seem to misread a lot of things. The OP is the one that asked about the SSN as well.

You are wrong, it was first brought up by another poster as I stated. 3rd post in the thread. Have a look and get back to me.

Your wonderful anecdotal evidence does not make it completely false for everyone one else.

What happened to other people doesn't mean that the rules don't exist or apply. I am not the one posting false information here.Everyone's case is different, I did nothing but speak from my own experience just like everyone else is.

There is no reason to tell people not to bother getting something they are eligible for that can help start getting established in the US and preparing all those co-mingling documents needed for AOS interview(if they have one) and ROC.

I never did. Do you just read things and interpret them however you see fit? It sure appears that way.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

You are wrong, it was first brought up by another poster as I stated. 3rd post in the thread. Have a look and get back to me.

Someone else brought it up, but the OP specifically asked WHEN they get the SSN. You told them not to rush because it isn't really good for anything other than working and that is false. I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand about this. It wasn't false FOR YOU, but it's false for many people. So making blanket statements doesn't help anyone if you're not going to give the alternative side of things, which is what people have been doing since.

Yes, people receive things without their SSN. But some people don't. So it's a good idea to spent 15 minutes in the SSA and get a number even if it has nothing to do with wanting/being able to work.

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

Hi!! I came to the US almost 3 weeks ago with a k1 visa. My fiance and I are getting married next thursday and we already start gathering all the information a paperwork we need to my adjustment of status. My fiance and I decided to change my name, and take my fiance's last name.

Our question is...in our forms, do I have to fill them with my new name or my maiden name?

Thanks a lot

Andrea & Henry

when Im recieving my ssn? Its almost a month since I got here and I havent recieve it yet

Can I go before or after we get married?

You are wrong, it was first brought up by another poster as I stated. 3rd post in the thread. Have a look and get back to me.

Getting back to you now... see the three posts above? All from the same poster, the one that started this thread.

What happened to other people doesn't mean that the rules don't exist or apply. I am not the one posting false information here.Everyone's case is different, I did nothing but speak from my own experience just like everyone else is.

Yes, what we have all been saying. Everyone's case is different. Telling people they will have no problem getting all things because you did is not entirely helpful. Not everyone finds it so easy to get a license or be added to accounts, open new accounts, etc. without having an SSN. Why not list your experience and then add that it isn't always the same case for everyone else then? Everyone's case is different.

There are rules stating a K-1 can go ahead and get their SSN as a legal alien allowed to work. I did not post false information. https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0110211530

http://www.visajourney.com/content/ssn

[rocks 494]

I think you're wasting your time responding. Just hit 'report' and be on your way!

Yeah...

I like how I have a husband but I'm a "dude".

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Yeah...

I like how I have a husband but I'm a "dude".

Scandalous!