SSC removal of "valid for work with..

[Caryh 5,206]

Is the EAD enough to remove the notation "Valid for work only with DHS Authorization" on the SS card, or is the green card required first?

Edited May 7, 2012 by Caryh

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Nope - Greencard is required.

[Caryh 5,206]

Nope - Greencard is required.

Have you attempted that? I just found this on the SS web site.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/2283

To prove your U.S. immigration status and authorization to work, show us your most current U.S. immigration document, such as an I-551 (Lawful Permanent Resident Card or Machine Readable Immigrant Visa), I-766 (work permit EAD), or I-94 (Arrival/Departure Record) showing a class of admission permitting work.

That definition was linked from the web site

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/394/related/1

To change the work status shown on a Social Security card:

Step 1: Gather documents proving your:

Identity

Department of Homeland Security work authorization

Immigration status

Step 2: Complete an Application for a Social Security Card.

Step 3: Take or mail your completed application and documents to your local Social Security office or your local Social Security Card Center.

Edited May 7, 2012 by Caryh

[NancyNguyen 1,658]

EAD is DHS Authorization so the annotation can't be removed with it.

[rocks 494]

Have you attempted that? I just found this on the SS web site.

Yes. You can get it removed when you receive your green card.

[Caryh 5,206]

EAD is DHS Authorization so the annotation can't be removed with it.

My thought is a green card is also an Authorization from DHS to work. Which I know you can remove the statement with. Then finding the note about the I-766 EAD card, being proof to change your work status on the SS card. I just haven't found explicitly how you remove the "Valid for work only with DHS Authorization" statement. The only place I've found to mention the Green Card on the SS web site, also states the EAD.

More searching turns up this though, which is probably saying because the EAD is temporary, they won't remove it.

The third type of card bears, in addition to the individual's name and SSN, the legend VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION. We issue this card to people with DHS permission to work temporarily in the United States.

While the un-notated card is defined as

The first type of card shows the individual's name and Social Security number (SSN) only. This is the card most people have and reflects the fact the card holder can work in the United States without restriction. We issue this card to:

U.S. citizens; or

Noncitizens lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence and noncitizens with DHS permission to work permanently in the United States (e.g., refugees and asylees).

[Caryh 5,206]

Yes. You can get it removed when you receive your green card.

Actually I was trying to see if anyone has tried to remove the notation with an EAD. Reading the SS site, I was thinking it just might be possible. I wish they were a bit more clear about it though.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

Actually I was trying to see if anyone has tried to remove the notation with an EAD. Reading the SS site, I was thinking it just might be possible. I wish they were a bit more clear about it though.

Nope, it is not possible. GC will remove the wording. EAD will not.

You quoted the relevant text here:

"We issue this card to:

U.S. citizens; or

Noncitizens lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence and noncitizens with DHS permission to work permanently in the United States (e.g., refugees and asylees)."

EAD is NOT permanent authorization. It can be (and will be) revoked if the AOS is denied.

[Anh map 2,098]

Actually I was trying to see if anyone has tried to remove the notation with an EAD. Reading the SS site, I was thinking it just might be possible. I wish they were a bit more clear about it though.

There is no benefit to having it removed. The SS card is not any sort of employment authorization.

[Caryh 5,206]

There is no benefit to having it removed. The SS card is not any sort of employment authorization.

Actually there is a benefit. We're in the process of buying her a car now. We want her on the loan papers, but the loan company just turned it down if she's on the loan because of the comment on the SS card. I can get the loan without her on it. Seems pretty damn stupid to me, you can have the loan, but not if your wife is on the papers? If she didn't have that statement on there, they would ok the loan. I'm pretty pissed off at the company, and they'll be loosing all my business now. I let them know it to. They said well they're pretty strict in that department, and my reply was they're pretty stupid to, so I'll take my business to another company. Thanks very much, and I've enjoyed working with you, but my business will go elsewhere in the future.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

It's probably not because of the wording, but because she has no credit score. The person probably mistakenly concluded that the reason she has no credit score is because of the wording, but that is incorrect.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

My thought is a green card is also an Authorization from DHS to work. Which I know you can remove the statement with. Then finding the note about the I-766 EAD card, being proof to change your work status on the SS card. I just haven't found explicitly how you remove the "Valid for work only with DHS Authorization" statement. The only place I've found to mention the Green Card on the SS web site, also states the EAD.

Here's the link you want: https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0110211510 Scroll down to the table at C.1.c.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Actually there is a benefit. We're in the process of buying her a car now. We want her on the loan papers, but the loan company just turned it down if she's on the loan because of the comment on the SS card. I can get the loan without her on it. Seems pretty damn stupid to me, you can have the loan, but not if your wife is on the papers? If she didn't have that statement on there, they would ok the loan. I'm pretty pissed off at the company, and they'll be loosing all my business now. I let them know it to. They said well they're pretty strict in that department, and my reply was they're pretty stupid to, so I'll take my business to another company. Thanks very much, and I've enjoyed working with you, but my business will go elsewhere in the future.

Agree with Harpa. She has no credit score and that is probably why she was denied. It also indicates she's not a permanent resident yet and it could be a policy not to authorise someone who is less likely to stay in the US. I know in australia it's a common problem where international students get phone plans (where you pay for the phone in the bill) and then just don't pay the bill before they leave so those students are a much higher risk now.

I personally think you overreacted. I'm not on the mortgage of our house because of my lack of credit score (interest would have SUCKED) but it's not really that big of a deal honestly. I personally would have put it on hold for a bit and asked around to see if other companies had the same issue, and they probably would have.

[engineer21 51]

I had that DHS authorization wording on my SSC from 1999 until 2010, when it was removed after I got the GC.

But my husband and I were able to take out loans together before I got my GC.

I did have a few years of credit history before I got those loans though.

Actually no bank ever asked to see the actual SSC.

only time anyone asked to see it was on campus, everytime I started a new job.

But yeah.. when I went to change my SSC to my married name, I showed my GC and it was mailed to me with that wording removed.

I didn't even have to ask.

[Hypnos 6,578]

Is it required to have the "valid for work only with DHS authorisation" annotation removed on your SSC after your green card is approved? By which I mean, once the whole process is done and dusted can you just carry on with life or must you go and have that wording removed by taking your GC to your local SSA office?

Edited May 7, 2012 by Hypnos