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[heizel anne 3]

Well, a lawyer can't make those words go away. I think a lawyer would tell you to do the things Kathryn said.

Do you know if he even sent those e-mails?

i dont know if he sent it but i do the printing those papers came from PI, came from me...i guess he is...so i think i need to prepare and affidavit form certifying i am not married at all...who will be the most eligible person to be sworn that i havent been married ever

[Pinkrlion 2,724]

My Fiancee started calling me wifey after we dated for about two years. I would correct him all of the time, we are not married. He stated that is what men call their girlfriends after they have dated a while. I am not sure if you can say it is cultural, but I still tell him, don't say that, I would rather you call me by my nickname.

[Julie y Pat 67]

Maybe some of the emails submitted mention wedding plans in the US? Would make your case more plausible that "hubby" is just an endearment, while by no means proof you aren't married

[Iyawo Ijebu 157]

Maybe some of the emails submitted mention wedding plans in the US? Would make your case more plausible that "hubby" is just an endearment, while by no means proof you aren't married

I like this.

[Inky 1,110]

Maybe some of the emails submitted mention wedding plans in the US? Would make your case more plausible that "hubby" is just an endearment, while by no means proof you aren't married

It wouldn't be more plausible. They talk about marriage in the USA and talk about husband and wife name calling each other - boom ship sunk they can see this as they already are married in the USA.

Hubby is not an endearment term it is a married persons nick name.

[raf.luv.leah 5]

Hi Heizel.

First off, CHIN UP. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

1. We don't even know for sure what the outcome of your K-1 original submission is. There's a very high chance it may get rejected, but we don't know for sure. Until then, there is nothing we can do about it but pray and hope for the best.

2. Worst case scenario is, you and your sweetheart would get married (which you eventually would have to do anyway, whether it be in the US, the Philippines, or the moon), and file for an I-130 or K-3. It would take longer, but wouldn't it be nice to have your wedding here in the Philippines where your parents, brothers and sisters, friends, and co-workers can attend?

3. What is important is that you and your soul-mate have found another. That's more than you can say about half of the people in this lonely planet we inhabit. You are BLESSED to have each other, and nothing - no person, government unit, or embassy an ever ever change that.

Don't be negative, but be realistic. It might take longer now, but whatever happens, use it to make your relationship stronger.

All the best,

L

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Proxy marriage is not recognized by the Service until it is consummated. So I think that's a stretch.

Married outside of the country? What does her passport show?

I'm not saying there are no potential hurdles here. But I do think there are ways to overcome them.

Rebecca, in the PIs they are required to provide the CENOMAR with the petition, it is many months out of date before the interview. They could even be married in the PIs 1 day after receiving the CENOMAR and it would not be shown.

There is no way to prove you are NOT married if they believe you are.

you mean to say i am now hopeless....no chance that my visa will gonna be approved...is that what are you trying say....my fiancee already sent our 129f last may 4...so you're saying i should not hope anymore with anything....is that....its my fault i know...but its beyond my knowledge...we've been together since 2010 im caliing him that way since then...so your telling me that we're not gonna be together anymore.....how cruel is that so depressing in my part.....

If I was saying that I would say that. I said to STOP doing that. I said it has caused problems for other people. Nothing else.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

i do need a response with you gary...if im refering for a legal documents i think it is somehow a part of it

right?

A lawyer cannot change anything. No they will not investigate whether you are married or not. They have no way to do that. Most countries have no central marriage records, how can they check? Where will they check? This is not a court, there is no "burden of proof" on them. If they see repeated references to "husband and wife" they can just decide that is all they need to see and deny the visa. Or give you very direct questioning about it. Or maybe nothing will happen but DO NOT do it more!

This is also a public forum and others reading this can benefit.

As Jim said...worst case, you get married and file for a CR-1. As others have said, PREPARE

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Also there seems to be the perception ion some people's part that they need to provide 300 pounds of emails discussing evrey particular of their relationship. This is not the case. I think many times people say TOO much.

I know that Kiev is a fairly easy consulate, comparatively, but I provided THREE emails from each of us, plus an email log which showed only the subject and date sent of perhaps 2000 more emails between us. You can get this from your archive "folder" for that person.

The idea that they need to see lots of gushy gooey love words going and back and forth is simply silly.

And FWIW I do not call my wife "wifey" and she does not call me "hubby" Not to each other anyway. I may refer to her as "my wife" to a third person but usually just use her name. Strange I know, refer to someone by their name.

[iluvmy_hubbybunny 9]

aw .. like me too sis .. well we have our normal endearment but when the convo start to be so sweet . we use wifey and hubby, like he called me sleepy wifey coz i am lol .. but i dunno maybe if u have enough papers to prove that you two are engaged only .. then that's great, tho in my case when i sent my ym convo email etc. I'm pretty sure we don't use that endearment yet since we just recently engaged then file k1.. well who knows i hope you get approval despite of endearment error. BE POSITIVE..

[Darkmoonfaerie 19]

And FWIW I do not call my wife "wifey" and she does not call me "hubby" Not to each other anyway. I may refer to her as "my wife" to a third person but usually just use her name. Strange I know, refer to someone by their name.

So glad we're not the only ones don't call (or plan to call) your spouse wifey or hubby. I just think it's weird lol. I also hate the term wifey, but that's beside the point.

[heizel anne 3]

we're not reAlly dont talk about marriage in all of our emails...mostly showing affections and some like about how's work and experiences..its more like a diaries we said in the email our daily life living...then in the last email we talk about the k1 visa....

[iluvmy_hubbybunny 9]

we're not reAlly dont talk about marriage in all of our emails...mostly showing affections and some like about how's work and experiences..its more like a diaries we said in the email our daily life living...then in the last email we talk about the k1 visa....

maybe just be ready to explain why you use that as endearment .. and i can relate to you..,just be positive .. good morning and have a good day..

[rayandmel 39]

The idea that they need to see lots of gushy gooey love words going and back and forth is simply silly.

And FWIW I do not call my wife "wifey" and she does not call me "hubby" Not to each other anyway. I may refer to her as "my wife" to a third person but usually just use her name. Strange I know, refer to someone by their name.

Gary, I could not agree with you more! I can't believe the amount of stuff people send in... I did not send a single e-mail, skype, text etc.... I put myself in the shoes of the reviewer before sending in my packet. Would I really want to shuffle through a bunch of sappy endless e-mails.... NO. Get to the point, show me your proof, cause I have a pile of files in front of me, so don't waist my time... (I know a lot of government employees)

As for "wifey", It would make me cringe if Ray called me that, BUT to each his own. Use it at the appropriate time though!

[issha2lynden 77]

You dig a hole there woman but my advice is stop stressing about it. Wait and prepare for your coming interview and explain truthfully that calling a bf/fiance a hubby is just a "new generational endearment" in our country. You have a big chance of getting away from this hurdle for the ff reasons;

1. The initial interviewers at the Manila Embassy are mostly Filipinos if not all. They know about this "hubby endearment" as a cliche and the term is frequently used in Philippine modern culture.

2. There is a big possibility you will be issued a 221g for more evidence/s given your scenario, but it won't put you in the dead-end. The CO after the interview if raises his/her suspicions then CENOMAR Re-verification will be done given you have initially sent that document during USCIS stage.

3. Contrary to some members here saying you cannot prove that you haven't been married, Manila Consulate sometimes issues Marriage re-verification called CEMAR. ( I went through these 2 process so don't worry it can be done ). NSO will issue a sworn statement/certificate on your status history of marriage. Mine showed 1 MARRIAGE FOUND ON RECORD.

Pray! and quit calling him hubby until the wedding is done Best wishes! (F) (F)