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And what?

Oh I get it...suspend our system of justice and just lynch anyone you want. Great idea.

Yeah - and digging up a seven year old myspace posting is just feeding the frenzy. You know it's going to go ####### for tat.

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People like me? Please describe 'people like me' ... since you seem to enjoy generalizations so much :)

People like me who don't believe in making one blanket statement to describe an entire group of people? People like me who call ignorance and racism for what it is? Or people like me who laugh at people like you who defend such nonsense statements?

Do tell.

Oh right, I forgot. George Zimmerman CAN'T be a racist! His family says he had black friends. My bad. :lol: :lol:

No 'people like you' who obviously don't know what real racism is and try to use it to further an agenda eventhough the statement you are reading/talking about isn't 'racist' at all. Just because someone makes a generalization doesn't make them a racist. I can say all women are ####### drivers and it doesn't make me sexist. It's a generalization. There's a HUGE difference in the two, yet those who have an agenda can't see past the tip of their own damn nose.

So I find it funny that you're sitting here and claiming that you call ignorance for what it is, and yet there again you don't have a clue that you're the one who is ignorant in this situation because you have an agenda on this guy who either defended himself or mudered some older teen/young adult. He might be a racist, and he might have a prejudice, however that social media post doesn't show nor prove either.

I'm 'defending' the statements because of the way its treated. Not because of what was said. There again, as I have pointed out, do you know what neighborhood he was living/working in at the time, because there are quite a few in this country that are very close to what he describes.

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No 'people like you' who obviously don't know what real racism is and try to use it to further an agenda eventhough the statement you are reading/talking about isn't 'racist' at all. Just because someone makes a generalization doesn't make them a racist. I can say all women are ####### drivers and it doesn't make me sexist. It's a generalization. There's a HUGE difference in the two, yet those who have an agenda can't see past the tip of their own damn nose.

So I find it funny that you're sitting here and claiming that you call ignorance for what it is, and yet there again you don't have a clue that you're the one who is ignorant in this situation because you have an agenda on this guy who either defended himself or mudered some older teen/young adult. He might be a racist, and he might have a prejudice, however that social media post doesn't show nor prove either.

I'm 'defending' the statements because of the way its treated. Not because of what was said. There again, as I have pointed out, do you know what neighborhood he was living/working in at the time, because there are quite a few in this country that are very close to what he describes.

:lol: What?! So if I say "all men are pigs" .. that's not sexism?

I'd also like to know what 'agenda' I am pushing. Can't do a good job of it if I don't know what it is.

Have you researched Zimmerman's previous calls to 911 about 'suspicious' people in his neighborhood? That boy he killed wasn't the first. There were DOZENS before him. All black. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence and he's not a racist.

How can you claim to NOT be defending what was said? That's exactly what you're doing by saying he has every right to say it, because in some neighborhoods, it's 'true'.

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:lol: What?! So if I say "all men are pigs" .. that's not sexism?

I'd also like to know what 'agenda' I am pushing. Can't do a good job of it if I don't know what it is.

Have you researched Zimmerman's previous calls to 911 about 'suspicious' people in his neighborhood? That boy he killed wasn't the first. There were DOZENS before him. All black. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence and he's not a racist.

How can you claim to NOT be defending what was said? That's exactly what you're doing by saying he has every right to say it, because in some neighborhoods, it's 'true'.

So I guess we can cross that "choice" off the list of the ones YOU approve. First Amendment out the window. Next?

The goal of the prosecutor will be to show that at the moment he killed Martin he was NOT in fear of death or serious injury being inflicted upon himself by Martin AND that he CHOSE to kill him. Seems simple enough.

The rest is bubblegum and worthless

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First Amendment isn't out the window at all. People can say whatever they'd like. I'm not saying he shouldn't voice his opinion. But if his opinion is racist, then I'll call it racist.

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:lol: What?! So if I say "all men are pigs" .. that's not sexism?

I'd also like to know what 'agenda' I am pushing. Can't do a good job of it if I don't know what it is.

Have you researched Zimmerman's previous calls to 911 about 'suspicious' people in his neighborhood? That boy he killed wasn't the first. There were DOZENS before him. All black. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence and he's not a racist.

How can you claim to NOT be defending what was said? That's exactly what you're doing by saying he has every right to say it, because in some neighborhoods, it's 'true'.

Sexism has a harmful nature to it. Your own personal generalizations don't actually mean you're going to discriminate against someone however based on their sex.

That boy he killed wasn't the first? Really? He killed others? You should let the prosecution know this!

What I'm saying is that you don't know the situation he was in when he made those statements. There's a difference in living amongst a group of people who act a certain way, and being away from people who act a certain way and having the same assumptions. Real life experience doesn't equate to racism (eventhough nothing he said was racist to begin with), it equates to truth in the eye of the beholder. Yet its easy to dismiss it as 'racism' because after all to some who understand not what true racism is; ignorant as they may be, any comment that is against a certain race in a negative way is 'racism.'

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Sexism is sexism. I don't care what you think is hurtful. You don't get to decide who gets offended by what. I think your driving comment is offensive and ridiculous, and no matter how much you don't want to admit it, by definition it is SEXISM.

The boy he killed wasn't the first one he'd made 911 calls about. I didn't realize I'd have to spell it out, I thought it was fairly obvious that's what I meant. But reading comprehension can be difficult, so I'll fix that for you.

I don't care what the situation was. I've lived in many a neighborhood where I was the only WHITE WOMAN there. And by no means did I go around making statements like "All black males(insert random activity here)" ... why? Because that would be racist. And it would be painting an entire group of people with one very broad brush and that's not RIGHT.

You don't seem to understand what racism or sexism is. You think if someone thinks it's true, it's alright to say and suddenly not racist. And while people can say whatever is on their mind, they can also expect to be called out on it. Your statements were sexist. George Zimmerman's were racist. End of story.

A generalization comment is NOT racist. Racism is a superiority complex or discrimination against another race.

The "word" that you're looking for to describe the type of generalization that you obviously don't like is BIGOT. A bigot is someone who is intolerable of someone/a group/something. A bigot can be a bigot without being a racist. There's a big difference.

You can 'think' it's racist all day long, but that doesn't make it so.

Oh and if you find my example comment offensive, then you have some serious personal demons to work out. That was not a directed comment at anyone, it was giving an example.

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A generalization comment is NOT racist. Racism is a superiority complex or discrimination against another race.

The "word" that you're looking for to describe the type of generalization that you obviously don't like is BIGOT. A bigot is someone who is intolerable of someone/a group/something. A bigot can be a bigot without being a racist. There's a big difference.

You can 'think' it's racist all day long, but that doesn't make it so.

Oh and if you find my example comment offensive, then you have some serious personal demons to work out. That was not a directed comment at anyone, it was giving an example.

I understand that it wasn't directed at anyone. It didn't need to be. You used it as an example, and it is a sexist example. No matter how much you'd like to think it isn't, it is.

If I say "All men are pigs," that is a sexist comment.

The definition was posted, but you chose to ignore it.

You go ahead and make "generalizations" all you'd like. You clearly don't see the harm in it, so enjoy yourself. I'm bowing out of this. :)

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Your statements were sexist. George Zimmerman's were racist. End of story.

And I agree ...and so what? Neither is a crime. George Zimmerman is not charged with being a racist, he is charged with 2nd degree homicide and that is what they have to prove to 12 jurors in Florida, unanimously.

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