Fraud: Check outcome of I-751 after divorce?

[calmload 3]

Be very careful what you say, especially in a public forum. You admited that you were frauded and chose to do nothing to report this known fraud to USCIS. You are now waist deep and sinking fast. You have now become an accessory to immigration fraud through your own admission. My suggestion is to walk away COMPLETELY from this situation, or follow through and report the fraud to USCIS.

Step carefully as you are in the middle of a mine field and this whole situation may blow up in your face.

Thanks for the concern, but I consulted an immigration attorney at the time I discovered the fraud and was advised that I have no obligation to contact USCIS regarding the matter. If my ex-wife wishes to remove conditions, she will be required to provide USCIS with the divorce judgement which contains the judge's opinion regarding the matter of fraud.

[aayitrun 66]

i know that most people here recommend that you should let go and they are kind and wise. i however disagree. i think u should inform the USCIS that you were defrauded. this helps 2 entities. one - it helps the country get rid of a liar. two - if and when uscis strips her off her immigration benefits and bans her from the US, you will be free from any potential I864 obligations.

[FinallyDone:) 10]

[rika60607 215]

Sigh.

She could have easily obtained a one-page divorce certificate that shows nothing but your names, date and location of divorce. Would USCIS want to see the full divorce file?.. Without knowing about her fraud may be they didn't.

Thanks for the concern, but I consulted an immigration attorney at the time I discovered the fraud and was advised that I have no obligation to contact USCIS regarding the matter. If my ex-wife wishes to remove conditions, she will be required to provide USCIS with the divorce judgement which contains the judge's opinion regarding the matter of fraud.

[RickJovi 81]

Oh and for what it's worth, I didn't write to USCIS telling them that I think she defrauded me and hence USCIS. Although I don't think she deserves any immigration benefits on account of having married me, I feel that it's best to just stay out of it and let bygones be bygones. If USCIS wants to know what I think, they can read the judge's ruling (which they will, as she will have to send it to them as part of the I-751).

My ex betrayed me and left with with her conditional green card in hand of only 7 months. I do care if she gets her conditions lifted and I feel it is my right to know since I am considered fianacially liable for her even after the divorce if she becomes a public charge. I have moved on with my life and have a much better fiancee now. I just feel and this is my opnion, is that she doesn't have any moral right to be here because of what she did, even if she has a GC. I on the other hand did submit evidence against her, statements from witnesses, profiles form her dating sites, etc.... The only thing I didn't submit was the pictures I obtained with her brother-in-laws best friend less than 3 weeks of leaving me. If USCIS wants to see them then I can take them to their office when the times comes if needed. I just want her out of the U.S. She doesn't deserve to be a resident here, period! Done venting. Now on the other hand I don't give a sh#t if she is screwing every Tom, ####### and Harry. She will get hers in the end. Karma is a bi##h! THose those that hurt and use people for their gain will get theirs in the end sometime. I am with you, I would like to know if I am on the hook for 10 years because of the Support Affidavit. Take care.

Edited May 2, 2012 by RickJovi

[RickJovi 81]

None that I know of. She will have to file an individual petition, that means it is not your business and you are divorced so NO you are not entitled to know any of her business.

I disgree because if they are going to keep us on the hook for a support affidavit, then we should at least kno wif she was approved or not. Just my opinion and how I feel. It will never change, right or wrong. I know exactly where my ex is but I don't care. I just don't like the fact that USCIS has a catch all that screws us, the petitioners when we are the victims of the fraud perpetrated against us by the ex-wife. I just don't like tha tpublic charge statement and the fact they could come after me for reimbursement of public benefits and they are the a##holes that gave the 10 years approval and removed the conditions.

[grrrrreat 109]

Be very careful what you say, especially in a public forum. You admited that you were frauded and chose to do nothing to report this known fraud to USCIS. You are now waist deep and sinking fast. You have now become an accessory to immigration fraud through your own admission. My suggestion is to walk away COMPLETELY from this situation, or follow through and report the fraud to USCIS.

Step carefully as you are in the middle of a mine field and this whole situation may blow up in your face.

I'm a lawyer, and this isn't an accurate statement regarding accessory to fraud. Please keep the answers to the question stated by the OP and avoid accusing others of breaking the law.

There's no way for OP to find out, and if he finds himself obsessing about it he should get some outside help from a counselor.

[Cathi 5,783]

Thanks for the concern, but I consulted an immigration attorney at the time I discovered the fraud and was advised that I have no obligation to contact USCIS regarding the matter. If my ex-wife wishes to remove conditions, she will be required to provide USCIS with the divorce judgement which contains the judge's opinion regarding the matter of fraud.

He only admitted that he was defrauded AFTER she got her 2 year green card and she hit the road. He did not know going into the marriage that she was a liar. He was in love with this woman.

[Cathi 5,783]

I don't have any advice, but if it were me I would want to know the outcome as he is on the hook for the I-864 if she isn't deported.

[Cathi 5,783]

Be very careful what you say, especially in a public forum. You admited that you were frauded and chose to do nothing to report this known fraud to USCIS. You are now waist deep and sinking fast. You have now become an accessory to immigration fraud through your own admission. My suggestion is to walk away COMPLETELY from this situation, or follow through and report the fraud to USCIS.

Step carefully as you are in the middle of a mine field and this whole situation may blow up in your face.

He only admitted to being defrauded AFTER she received her 2 year green card and hit the road. He did not know going into the marriage that she lied. He was in love with this woman and he entered into the marriage in good faith. And he has the right to know the outcome especially since he will be on the hook for the i-864if she isn't deported.

[Sirdaniel42 86]

I'm a lawyer, and this isn't an accurate statement regarding accessory to fraud. Please keep the answers to the question stated by the OP and avoid accusing others of breaking the law.

There's no way for OP to find out, and if he finds himself obsessing about it he should get some outside help from a counselor.

[RickJovi 81]

I'm a lawyer, and this isn't an accurate statement regarding accessory to fraud. Please keep the answers to the question stated by the OP and avoid accusing others of breaking the law.

There's no way for OP to find out, and if he finds himself obsessing about it he should get some outside help from a counselor.

So are you a lawyer that specializes in immigration law? I hate to say it that just because you are a lawyer doesn't make you and expert in all areas of law. Some lawyers are worthless, not saying you are, but not all lawyers are good at what they do and how they represent thier clients. I had a lawyer in the past that was worth anything. He got my money and he sucked as his job. Even lawyers make mistakes right? Or they would never lose their cases.

Edited May 2, 2012 by RickJovi

[grrrrreat 109]

So are you a lawyer that specializes in immigration law? I hate to say it that just because you are a lawyer doesn't make you and expert in all areas of law. Some lawyers are worthless, not saying you are, but not all lawyers are good at what they do and how they represent thier clients. I had a lawyer in the past that was worth anything. He got my money and he sucked as his job. Even lawyers make mistakes right? Or they would never lose their cases.

I'm sorry you've had bad experiences in the past.

[Mike B. 231]

Why do you care? Other than theI-864 which obviously had no affect on your divorce, what difference does it make? Please, go ahead with your life and stop looking back, you will be much happier

The I-864 might not have any effect on his divorce, but whether or not his ex-wife has conditions lifted on her residency does have an effect on his I-864 obligations. I agree that he's probably going to be left in the dark about this unless he calls his wife, but I simply cannot understand why you are so hostile that someone somewhere out there might have just a bit of an inkling of a desire to know whether or not they are still contractually bound to a legally-binding document like the I-864.

[RickJovi 81]

The I-864 might not have any effect on his divorce, but whether or not his ex-wife has conditions lifted on her residency does have an effect on his I-864 obligations. I agree that he's probably going to be left in the dark about this unless he calls his wife, but I simply cannot understand why you are so hostile that someone somewhere out there might have just a bit of an inkling of a desire to know whether or not they are still contractually bound to a legally-binding document like the I-864.

Agree. If we are stuck legally by the I-864 and USCIS is the one who will give the person the 10 year card, then we as the one who brought them over here, sacrificed our time, our money and our hearts, should at least get a courtesy that they didn't do their job and deny the fraudualent immigrant the ROC and keeping us legally and contractually liable for them when we shouldn't be. But that is USCIS loophole and catch all. It doesn't impact them, they don't care. The only thing I can do is check CherryBlossoms.com after her 2 year card expires to see if she is still in the U.S. as it shows the country flag she is logging in with because of her IP Address. She is already on a fishing expediction to get her next victim, because she knew what she did to me was wrong. I can only hope for justice from USCIS. If not, then where is the right of the U.S. citizen who was taken advantage of by the low lifes that perpetrate this type of crime against them. Easy to say move forward and don't look back. I have moved forward and am very happy with my new fiancee Jovi. I still want justice and to not be held financially responsible for someone who victimized me.

Edited May 2, 2012 by RickJovi