I guess all the ppl in the world love american, eh!

[Krikit 1,164]

Have to wonder where some of the posters have been in the US because it is an absolutely beautiful and breathtaking country. Unless you're living in third-world conditions, and are desperate to improve your situation, I imagine most people would choose to remain in their own countries.

[ullnvrkno 95]

I disagree. It's exactly this attitude, Americans thinking that America is the "new world" make most people hate America and/or Americans. I believe its simply called love and when two people are in love they plan their life together and decide which one is the best for them. I know hundreds of people who married American citizens and came to the US and they miss their motherland terribly. They spend fortunes going back and forth to visit their parents, siblings and loved ones.

I also would like to set it straight, that not all US Citizens are native Americans. Most US citizens here you see, are marrying from Pakistan, India, Turkey, Africa or whatever are actually just marrying their natives.

At one time being an American was an exception. It is no more.Not after bombing of all those lands in the name of democracy.

I would stop thinking that being in America was so hot. It is not!

Mostly everyone here is just looking for a soul-mate and hoping that they found the right one.

There are some just doing it maybe to get away from their poverty stricken countries. But think about it, if you were British they would do it to go to GB, or German they'd do it to go to Germany and it goes on. This should not make you think that America is hot, This makes me think that the lives and cultures in other countries and how they must cope with life having just enough to get by or not having anything at all. This is not an excuse for their lies but this gives us something to think about and try to pick the right person.

I also read many posts here where American men kept choosing foreign women to marry. Some admitted that they filed, once, twice, three times. All for fiancees from other countries. If the first two didn't work out, why did they do it again third time?

Doesn't this make you wonder why American men turn elsewhere?

I am curious.

As an American I can say you're welcome to go somewhere else if you're just going to b!tch about the country you're so desperately seeking to either come to or bring a spouse to.

You know, I've been seeing a lot of America bashing threads recently on this board. I know everyone is frustrated with our immigration process -- I am too (and I'm American by birth-- family has been here for at least 500 years, no lie). However, if all you guys can do it talk ####### about the country you're either trying to move to or are trying to bring your spouse to, why don't you look into another country??? You don't HAVE to deal with "pigheaded Americans" or our "lack of health care" or "snide remarks." No one is holding a gun to your head and saying "MOVE TO AMERICA." So.... calm down. Stop bashing the US. Seriously. It's getting really old.

Edited May 1, 2012 by ullnvrkno

[RK_and_Inday 10]

@Fiance and all--

OP: Very interesting question (What are countries in rank for immigration?) Could be answered in many ways, but

1. Here is one interesting data summary:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2112rank.html

which ranks 220 countries by net migration rate. Net migration is defined on this link as the number of immigrants entering country minus the number of emigrants leaving a particular country per 1,000 persons. Qatar is highest on the list (+40.6 net migrating individuals per 1000 persons) and the United States is ranked 26th (+3.6 net migration)

2. As to why comparatively more or less persons would immigrate to or emigrate from any particular country (or remain in one's native country) the reasons are numerous encompassing (among other factors) a wide variety of political, social, historical reasons as well as personal circumstances, all of which are constantly changing. Examination of these various influencing factors, whether by fact or opinion, can lead to many interesting discussions.

Thank you, Fiance, for presenting an interesting question and engendering some interesting food for thought!

--RK and Inday

Edited May 1, 2012 by RK_and_Inday

[WrightFamily 34]

Have to wonder where some of the posters have been in the US because it is an absolutely beautiful and breathtaking country. Unless you're living in third-world conditions, and are desperate to improve your situation, I imagine most people would choose to remain in their own countries.

I totally agree with you!!

[Adriene H 89]

Well there is only one America, simple.

Really?

I thought there were two ... north and south

[WrightFamily 34]

As an American I can say you're welcome to go somewhere else if you're just going to b!tch about the country you're so desperately seeking to either come to or bring a spouse to.

You know, I've been seeing a lot of America bashing threads recently on this board. I know everyone is frustrated with our immigration process -- I am too (and I'm American by birth-- family has been here for at least 500 years, no lie). However, if all you guys can do it talk ####### about the country you're either trying to move to or are trying to bring your spouse to, why don't you look into another country??? You don't HAVE to deal with "pigheaded Americans" or our "lack of health care" or "snide remarks." No one is holding a gun to your head and saying "MOVE TO AMERICA." So.... calm down. Stop bashing the US. Seriously. It's getting really old.

I salute you!!

[ullnvrkno 95]

I salute you!!

Well if you're being serious then thank you

[karalynn1971 26]

As an American I can say you're welcome to go somewhere else if you're just going to b!tch about the country you're so desperately seeking to either come to or bring a spouse to.

You know, I've been seeing a lot of America bashing threads recently on this board. I know everyone is frustrated with our immigration process -- I am too (and I'm American by birth-- family has been here for at least 500 years, no lie). However, if all you guys can do it talk ####### about the country you're either trying to move to or are trying to bring your spouse to, why don't you look into another country??? You don't HAVE to deal with "pigheaded Americans" or our "lack of health care" or "snide remarks." No one is holding a gun to your head and saying "MOVE TO AMERICA." So.... calm down. Stop bashing the US. Seriously. It's getting really old.

Amen to that! Finally! Completely agree! Don't like it here, don't come.

[ullnvrkno 95]

Amen to that! Finally! Completely agree! Don't like it here, don't come.

SOMEONE has to stand up for us!!! This is like, the 2nd America bashing thread in two days that I've seen!!!!

[sabi 148]

Have to wonder where some of the posters have been in the US because it is an absolutely beautiful and breathtaking country.

It is indeed! I agree that the country is amazing and the nature(!) is breathtaking! Personally all I meant was it's not a place where rivers are full of milk and money grows on trees as many people think! Sometimes the situation forces you to move, not because you want to live an American dream but because you want to be with the one you love! and it has nothing to do with him/her being American but them being the love of your life and you will follow them wherever they are!

[Wolffsrain 7]

I disagree. It's exactly this attitude, Americans thinking that America is the "new world" make most people hate America and/or Americans. I believe its simply called love and when two people are in love they plan their life together and decide which one is the best for them. I know hundreds of people who married American citizens and came to the US and they miss their motherland terribly. They spend fortunes going back and forth to visit their parents, siblings and loved ones.

I also would like to set it straight, that not all US Citizens are native Americans. Most US citizens here you see, are marrying from Pakistan, India, Turkey, Africa or whatever are actually just marrying their natives.

At one time being an American was an exception. It is no more.Not after bombing of all those lands in the name of democracy.

I would stop thinking that being in America was so hot. It is not!

Mostly everyone here is just looking for a soul-mate and hoping that they found the right one.

There are some just doing it maybe to get away from their poverty stricken countries. But think about it, if you were British they would do it to go to GB, or German they'd do it to go to Germany and it goes on. This should not make you think that America is hot, This makes me think that the lives and cultures in other countries and how they must cope with life having just enough to get by or not having anything at all. This is not an excuse for their lies but this gives us something to think about and try to pick the right person.

I also read many posts here where American men kept choosing foreign women to marry. Some admitted that they filed, once, twice, three times. All for fiancees from other countries. If the first two didn't work out, why did they do it again third time?

Doesn't this make you wonder why American men turn elsewhere?

I am curious.

I totally agree with this post. My wife (from Russia) wants to come to the USA mainly because it will be a better lifestyle and also better weather to deal with. I on the other hand would love to leave the United states. I'm very tired of the way people are here, and there is a lot of racism as well. Americans are not fond of people with foreign accents and will most often refuse to lend a helping hand, which is one of the things that scares me about bringing my wife here.

Also, as stated in the quote that American men look to marry foreign women, it's simply because almost all American women are not as educated, graceful, and cultured, as those women in the rest of the world.

[ullnvrkno 95]

I totally agree with this post. My wife (from Russia) wants to come to the USA mainly because it will be a better lifestyle and also better weather to deal with. I on the other hand would love to leave the United states. I'm very tired of the way people are here, and there is a lot of racism as well. Americans are not fond of people with foreign accents and will most often refuse to lend a helping hand, which is one of the things that scares me about bringing my wife here.

Also, as stated in the quote that American men look to marry foreign women, it's simply because almost all American women are not as educated, graceful, and cultured, as those women in the rest of the world.

I happen to be an educated, graceful and cultured AMERICAN woman and I really, really resent your post.

Are you American?

Why don't you look into moving to Canada because clearly you don't want to be here in the US. Tell whatever idiot is holding a gun to your head saying "MOVE TO AMERICA OR ELSE" to drop the weapon because I'm sure there are a ton of other countries that would love to have you talk sh!t about their citizens.

Edited May 1, 2012 by ullnvrkno

[Caryh 5,206]

No, my fiancee (currently wife) didn't want to come here. She has tried just about everything to convince me to move to her. Unsuccessfully.

That sounds like my wife. She'd go back to the Philippines in a heart beat if I'd go with her. Not everyone who has came to America really wanted to move here, some prefer their own home country. Love can make you do things that nothing else can.

[Wolffsrain 7]

I happen to be an educated, graceful and cultured AMERICAN woman and I really, really resent your post.

Are you American?

Why don't you look into moving to Canada because clearly you don't want to be here in the US. Tell whatever idiot is holding a gun to your head saying "MOVE TO AMERICA OR ELSE" to drop the weapon because I'm sure there are a ton of other countries that would love to have you talk sh!t about their citizens.

Your reply to my post proves my point about American women. We're all just stating our opinions and points of views.

[ullnvrkno 95]

Your reply to my post proves my point about American women. We're all just stating our opinions and points of views.

You really don't HAVE to live here. You know that, right?

Besides, you didn't answer my question.

Edited May 1, 2012 by ullnvrkno