Local Woman Shots Attacker

[Darnell 8,478]

Alrighty, I've read the entire newstory and studied the photos.

IMO, she's offically a 'bad @ss' - not taking sh|t from anyone.

More power to her, I say.

[Robby999 1,024]

Last summer was a bad summer for immigrant shopkeepers. There was a rash of armed robberies targeting immigrant owned stores resulting in several immigrant shopkeepers deaths. The immigrants joined together, bought guns and went to the firing ranges. And for those that are wondering how they legally accomplished that, Georgia allows legal permanent residents to apply for and receive concealed weapons permits! After the storekeepers capped a couple of would be robbers, the amount of robberies targeting immigrant stores was reduced dramatically.

Edited April 28, 2012 by Robby999

[Robby999 1,024]

Macon Police Chief Promises to 'Hunt These Thugs Down'

9:21 AM, Oct 29, 2010

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Michael Wiggs

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Video: Macon Police Chief Promises to 'Hunt These Thugs Down'

Video: Sprint Food Store Surveillance Video

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At a news conference to discuss Wednesday night's fatal shooting, Macon police chief Mike Burns asked for the public's help in catching the killers and promised to "hunt these thugs down."

Burns also said that, before the shooting, Mayor Robert Reichert promised him additional resources to stem the recent wave of shootings, including overtime for additional police patrols.

Meanwhile, Macon police are still investigating the fatal shooting of store clerk 58-year-old Vishnu Patel after an armed robbery outside his store.

Macon police also released surveillance-video photos of the shooting Thursday afternoon.

Spokeswoman Jami Gaudet says it happened at the Sprint food store at 3911 Napier Ave. around 11:20 p.m. Wednesday.

Chief Burns says Officer Todd Durbin first heard the shots and while headed in that direction, was dispatched to the store.

A police report says Durbin found Vishnu Patel on the ground, bleeding.

Gaudet says three store clerks were walking to their vehicles after closing the store when three men, dressed in all black, walked up to them demanding their wallets and keys to a car.

The men took their wallets and told Vishnu Patel who had already sat down in the van to get out. One of the suspects said that Vishnu Patel took too long to get out of the van and then shot him multiple times, according to a police report.

Bibb County Corner Leon Jones says Patel was taken to the Medical Center of Central Georgia where he was pronounced dead.

Police said the van was found Thursday morning on Matheson Drive, about a mile away.

At Thursday's news conference, Burns said the other two men were robbed of between $1,600 and $2,000.

Stray bullets from the shooting struck an open daycare center that still had children inside.

Employees found the bullets Thursday morning at Brown's Learning Center at 3895 Napier Ave. The daycare is open until midnight. No injuries have been reported there.

Burns said Patel had worked at the store for a couple years.

A friend of the victim, Charles Williams says friends called Vishnu "Victor" and says he likely was not armed since he didn't believe in carrying a gun.

He described Patel as a friendly man who welcomed him into his home and shared his culture.

"Invited me to Temple," said Williams. "Weddings, eatings, family functions."

He fielded calls Thursday from many who had the same question he did.

"Why people want to do this?," said Williams.

Williams was at the store Thursday morning to clean up the murder scene, including spraying away the blood.

Jones says Patel's killing is Macon's 18th homicide for the year.

That's as many as in all of 2009, when FBI statistics showed that Macon had the highest murder and homicide rate among Georgia cities with populations over 10,000.

Chief Burns says police have cleared 14 of the 18 killings this year.

If you have information on this crime, you can call Macon Regional Crimestoppers and 1-877-68 Crime.

[Leatherneck 693]

Thanks for sharing this and the tips. Will try practice shooting outside when the weather gets nice. I am imagining my husband's reaction when i ask him to buy me my own gun coz he knows im not interested in his other guns (just needed for self defence, just like to play with the BB gun. hehe

When i started shooting in the basement, he told his friends about it and they were happy coz it reminds them of their younger days ---- having beers, getting drunk then they gonna compete shooting the beer cans and bottles. I can imagine them shooting in the air only, not hitting any but of course they told me a different story. They said they hit all. hahaha

You're welcome, anything to encourage women to learn to shoot. He'll probably be both very surprised and happy. If you go to a gun show or a gun store with a large assortment of handguns, research online the various major brands/models, then decide on something you like, that fits your hands comfortably and it feels good -- then hopefully you'll enjoy the fun of shooting. I would recommend a weekend gun safety course also.

Good luck and let me know how your husband reacts to the idea of you having your own firearm or if you actually make a purchase.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Or a nice sub-compact in .40 or .45 ACP with hollow points would fit the bill and her small hands.

GO AMY!!!

Recoil is the issue with the .45 and I don't think even a subcompact will be small enough. The .40 is a good consideration, but need to see how she will handle the recoil, which is why the 327 interests me, has hitting power like a .357 but not the recoil. Time will tell... 12 days until we head home.

[Leatherneck 693]

Last summer was a bad summer for immigrant shopkeepers. There was a rash of armed robberies targeting immigrant owned stores resulting in several immigrant shopkeepers deaths. The immigrants joined together, bought guns and went to the firing ranges. And for those that are wondering how they legally accomplished that, Georgia allows legal permanent residents to apply for and receive concealed weapons permits! After the storekeepers capped a couple of would be robbers, the amount of robberies targeting immigrant stores was reduced dramatically.

"Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional."

Thugs are many things -- stupid is not one of them, they fear being on the business-end of a large caliber handgun. They got the message.

Good job to the store owners!

[TripleG 3]

Or a nice sub-compact in .40 or .45 ACP with hollow points would fit the bill and her small hands.

GO AMY!!!

My wife is pretty efficient with a lever action Golden Boy 22 mag. rifle and I bought her a Ruger .380 that fits her small hands nicely. She also likes to shoot a Ruger 357 mag. revolver (speed six) loaded with 38's but is not strong enough to use the double action trigger, so she has to ####### it before fireing. Any higher caliber pistol and she flinches before firing because she cannot comfortabbly handle the recoil. We live on 35 acres in the piney woods and shoot guns alot. Gun safety is the most important thing to teach, then practice, practice, practice. We go through scenarios of what to do in case of home intruders so she will be prepared if I am not home. We also have situational awareness discussions when we are away from home. Texas is a permit to carry concealed state and I am always armed.

Wyatt

"Its better to have a gun and not need it. Then to need a gun and not have it." Capt. Woodrow F. Call

[Leatherneck 693]

My wife is pretty efficient with a lever action Golden Boy 22 mag. rifle and I bought her a Ruger .380 that fits her small hands nicely. She also likes to shoot a Ruger 357 mag. revolver (speed six) loaded with 38's but is not strong enough to use the double action trigger, so she has to ####### it before fireing. Any higher caliber pistol and she flinches before firing because she cannot comfortabbly handle the recoil. We live on 35 acres in the piney woods and shoot guns alot. Gun safety is the most important thing to teach, then practice, practice, practice. We go through scenarios of what to do in case of home intruders so she will be prepared if I am not home. We also have situational awareness discussions when we are away from home. Texas is a permit to carry concealed state and I am always armed.

Wyatt

"Its better to have a gun and not need it. Then to need a gun and not have it." Capt. Woodrow F. Call

Yes the DA trigger can be a challenge for some small women... and not really ideal for a self defense, stressful situation with the need to ####### the hammer to get off a first round. My ex wife was a 5'2' 100 lb. (with rocks in her pockets, maybe) Pinay, I taught her to shoot using a .45 ACP, she too was concerned with recoil, I stepped down from a 230 grain to a 165 gr. bullet -- problem solved. The last time I talked to her, (10years ago) the .40 was her caliber of choice. Look at the video I posted and note the very little muzzle flip each time 14 yr old Tori fires, I think the fear of recoil can be over come with some adjustments and practice.

I agree, safety is the foundation and practice reinforces the importance of safety. You must have had some training, rarely do I hear anyone mention "situational awareness." Running through drills, scenarios and situational awareness makes for a more confident and better prepared partner.

I'm jealous of your 35 acres of rural living. If CA. keeps taxing me to death -- I'll find myself on a few acres, somewhere, and hopefully near a lake.

[Hank_ 9,174]

Arizona has open carry in its constitution just strap that puppy on and walk the streets of Tombstone. Then in '97 adopted CCW, just a couple years ago AZ pass concealed carry of the Vermont and Alaska style... no permit required, but if you travel to other states going through the CCW permit process is worth the effort. There are only two or three states that I travel that do not honor the AZ CCW.

Edited April 28, 2012 by Hank_Amy

[Darnell 8,478]

Situational awareness is a big thing. Just saying.

[Leatherneck 693]

Recoil is the issue with the .45 and I don't think even a subcompact will be small enough. The .40 is a good consideration, but need to see how she will handle the recoil, which is why the 327 interests me, has hitting power like a .357 but not the recoil. Time will tell... 12 days until we head home.

I get your point -- recoil is personal and so is caliber selection. Personally, I approach caliber selection for defensive purposes (among other things also) from the point of availability -- if I find myself in a small town in the middle of just about nowhere, with a population of next to nothing, what ammo would I most likely be able to find or, can I get it at Wal Mart?

Arizona, treats its adult citizens like adults with regards to the 2nd Amendment.

Recoil -- not an issue for this 12 year old kid, even with one hand.

[Leatherneck 693]

A good video featuring a female giving advice to other ladies about technique and recoil using a big ole 1911. This lady is spot-on @ 1:00 - 2:54.

[Robby999 1,024]

Personally, I would rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6!

[Gumbolette 58]

Gun in my lockbox, checked.

[Hank_ 9,174]

I get your point -- recoil is personal and so is caliber selection. Personally, I approach caliber selection for defensive purposes (among other things also) from the point of availability -- if I find myself in a small town in the middle of just about nowhere, with a population of next to nothing, what ammo would I most likely be able to find or, can I get it at Wal Mart?

Arizona, treats its adult citizens like adults with regards to the 2nd Amendment.

Recoil -- not an issue for this 12 year old kid, even with one hand.

I totally agree, availability of ammo is a major consideration also.... never know when the next Katrina will strike