Marriage fraud victim asking for advice..

[kamyon12 3]

Come on, how you did not know she was married? Are you sure you're not trying to have her deported because she is living the American dream? It sounds like a jealous husband's rage...After all, why should she have your kid if she were trying to fraud you?

[No-Where-Man 147]

I am sorry to hear that.

She might got pregnant thinking that this would make it easier for her to stay. I encourage taking a legal action toward her, if she was divorced and she could prove it officially, then she is innocent.

If not then she needs to go. fair and square.

I saw comments about Islam and divroce issue. FYI, Marriage and divorce must be official regardless, when someone say " I divroce you", its like I am leaving the house and we are separated(no sex, no living together etc), then The husband can return in his word or make it official and terminate the marriage.

Same for marrige process, wife have to accept the man and family of both sides should know and bless the marriage, then arrangements to make it offiicial(sex is not even allowed untill contract is available which takes only 4 days or so to get, the reason is to preserve both their right if pregnancy happened or death etc.)

, be encouraged man and do the right thing, I really hope you are mistaken and she is a good woman.

Edited April 27, 2012 by no_where_man

[aayitrun 66]

guys, the i divorce you three times in front of god doesnt mean much because even god asks for 2 witnesses.

also what u do in front of god, is rarely provable in a court of law. unless she can produce official documentation of divorce, she is toast.

Edited April 27, 2012 by aayitrun

[Caryh 5,206]

Agreed to an extent. But reporting marriage fraud isn't just about "hatred" but about reporting a crime. If your wife robbed a bank, you'd still be obligated to report her if you knew.

Actually no, you are not required to report illegal actions of your spouse. The government also cannot compel a spouse to testify in court in the USA.

[verysadguy 170]

Come on, how you did not know she was married? Are you sure you're not trying to have her deported because she is living the American dream? It sounds like a jealous husband's rage...After all, why should she have your kid if she were trying to fraud you?

Because she will likely move to family law court for custody and 18 years of child support. I am in a similar situation for those who have read my story. I did the same suggestions of sending by USPS or FedEx Overnight Letters to make sure the evidence got to USCIS and ICE.

Since she already has a green card this will be a difficult case. My case is difficult because of a fraudulent VAWA claim. Once she made that move with a self-petition USCIS and ICE completely shut down 100% access by me of any access to rulings and filings. It totally SUCKS. However, since I sent in all the evidence as soon as possible, before she ever made any claims, and the evidence was of her own making (photos, emails, internet chats) I also hope she is TOAST.

I just hope the VAWA agents are smart enough to figure out the fraud being perpetrated by her. As far as your case you need iron clad evidence that she was married and not divorced. In family law court this will make a HUGE difference in the judges rulings. I easily won custody and my ex has almost zero chance of abducting my child now and almost no hope of jilting me out of 18 years of child support that was clearly her intention.

My child has me and a superb nanny. She will be raised with good rules and morals and not lack for love and support. 2 parents are not necessary. What is necessary is love and direction and education and consistency etc.

Good luck!

[NY_BX 397]

It's not a legal divorce.It's only said if the husband means it and does the legal action of the words.But when he says I divorce you 3 times than it's only in front of GOD.So in GOD'S eyes your divorced.I just asked my husband about it

How can anyone with common sense marry someone that truly believes this is fair, let alone the right thing to do?

I'm sorry but we're talking about the law. And to that let me ask, how about the wife? what if she wants to divorce him? What does she have to say and how many times?

I'm sure that when you legally divorce in court, God is able to read the document.

Edited April 27, 2012 by NY_BX

[2011fall 0]

i am so sorry to hear about this.

But did you ever talk to her after she left? Did she ever explain/deny/admit her previous marriage/divorce?

I think if she really only wants to get here for Green card and no love with you (i am sorry for saying things like this, which is very unfair to you). I guess she would try to get rid of the kid and the kid might just be an accident (an innocent life) since you said it has been only 2 months. And she would hope that she will never need to contact you or you will not find her while she gets the green card already and can stay here. ---If so, do whatever you can to stop her, as suggested by other VJers.

If she really lied to you about she was still married when she was engaged to you and married to you, though she kept the baby and she could asked you for finance support for the baby--or for herself actually. If a lady can use a baby to get the life (green card and also finance support, and freedom to marry someone else here in the future) that she wants, what is the reason we should sympathize her?? If you care about the innocent baby, then make sure that even if you are willing to support the baby, make it very strict on the condition that the money should be used only on the kid. --talk to the lawyer and make sure that the court knows everything.

I feel very bad and angry for people like this--selfish for the life they want, and take advantage of others and even their own kids!!!

I hope you will sort things out!

[RickJovi 81]

I am sorry to hear that.

She might got pregnant thinking that this would make it easier for her to stay. I encourage taking a legal action toward her, if she was divorced and she could prove it officially, then she is innocent.

If not then she needs to go. fair and square.

I saw comments about Islam and divroce issue. FYI, Marriage and divorce must be official regardless, when someone say " I divroce you", its like I am leaving the house and we are separated(no sex, no living together etc), then The husband can return in his word or make it official and terminate the marriage.

Same for marrige process, wife have to accept the man and family of both sides should know and bless the marriage, then arrangements to make it offiicial(sex is not even allowed untill contract is available which takes only 4 days or so to get, the reason is to preserve both their right if pregnancy happened or death etc.)

, be encouraged man and do the right thing, I really hope you are mistaken and she is a good woman.

If she is from the Philippines and she was married in the Philippines, then she is married and not innocent. No divorce unless unique situations for an annulement. So even if she was separated in the Philippines from her husband, she is still not single and can never marry unless she meets the requirements for an annulment in Philippine law and has filed legal paperwork granting it. So she is not innocent unless she has an official annulment period.

[AngelAndJoy 22]

I thought that if you got married via K1, you both have to be married at least 2 years? If not, I thought the beneficiary gets deported back to her home land?

[elyhim 41]

Yes, the child is mine

Whatever i just wrote is totally True. Marriages in 3rd world countries are not traceable, if they are not court registered marriages. However, there is this document, called 'Nikah Nama', that contains signatures and all details of the bride and groom.

Now i know, what to do.

And get a family lawyer and get custody of your child.

[Caryh 5,206]

I thought that if you got married via K1, you both have to be married at least 2 years? If not, I thought the beneficiary gets deported back to her home land?

In the event of a divorce while on a two year conditional green card, the green card holder is supposed to immediately file for removal of conditions. If USCIS believes the marriage was entered into in good faith, a 10 year green card can be issued. There is no requirement of staying married during those two years. Even those applying for removal of conditions while still married have to prove the marriage is real.

[Sandra G. 5,048]

Contact ICE, and do not be surprised if she claims "battered spouse".

Edited April 27, 2012 by sandranj

[Ban Hammer 13,360]

one post removed and one member thread banned for making fun of another member's situation.

[Shane and Lovely 22]

I have such a hard time reading things like this. I want to put blinders on and just believe this is not real. Unfortunately, not all people in this world are good, and selfish people can't see the hurt they cause past their own desires. You do have my prayers. I also hope all you are stating, you have true evidence for and are not just repeating hearsay. I still can't imagine pouring the heart and time into a relationship to having it end with such betrayal. Again, you are both in my prayers for different reasons. I pray you find happiness some day.

[Ayman___ 92]

How can anyone with common sense marry someone that truly believes this is fair, let alone the right thing to do?

I'm sorry but we're talking about the law. And to that let me ask, how about the wife? what if she wants to divorce him? What does she have to say and how many times?

I'm sure that when you legally divorce in court, God is able to read the document.

I did say it's not legal and I find it funny.My husband is Muslim and don't believe in it.We all know how to get a divorce so I was answering someone because I asked my husband about it thank you