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Makes no difference what I think.

its a community consideration thing. text ususlly doesn't set off employer monitoring software, so it gets more leniency. pictures do set off monitiring software. the rule of thumb has always been PG-13 and down is ok. occasionally NC-17 or even an R is permitted depending on context...adding a NSFW helps. nobody wants people getting called to the office because they opened a thread & boom T & A pics.

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Right. An individual walking by my desk can glance in my direction and have no idea what the text on my screen says. Unless, of course, it's in a huge font and bright red (or something - you get the idea). But a scandalous (ha) picture of a nun is unmistakable. People simply process images faster than they do text. So by all means, post dirty stories (well, not too dirty and make sure they're not in Latin) about nuns but the photos are a bad idea.

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No one one this site is more religious than I. If this is a TOS violation than anything can be considered one. How many complaints does it take to say it is taking away enjoyment of others and take action? Is there a morality police here that determines what is OK or not? I saw two ladies complain then lady Mods take action. Is it OK for us guys to complain about sugary subjects and have action taken. It takes away from our enjoyment after all but I would rather to just not enter offending threads. (There are many offensive threads)

The teacher pic was actually posted before and a few of us had fun with the bad teacher thread and posted pics of teachers that had gotten arrested for having sex with students. It was OK two weeks ago with no sensibilities offended then. Is the boobie thread off limits now? I am sure you can see my concern about a possible arbitrary TOS violation being taken. The P&R section has always been known as not for the timid and there are other sections that moral police can reside. A few should not rule over the majority.

I'm Catholic. Don't know if I'm 'more religious' than you, but I certainly found it absolutely offensive and religiously insensitive.

I have never reported any image violation before I reported that one.

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Since some women feel their bodies are dirty, filthy and should not be looked at, or touched (heaven forbid) perhaps some specifics on triangle size in relation to the size of the photo. Percentages should work...perhaps "any photo of a woman must be obscured by 50% triangles" or something. maybe a burkha.

I think this is whiny BS for something that obviously is addressed using the discretion of the moderators who are chosen for their dicretionary powers and which is mostly "magic" to us mere mortals but was something to do while in line at a grocery store...God save us from portable internet devices in the hands of addicts. I just read the gossip rags or look at the covers of Cosmo!

Now if someone could please post the LINK to the actual porn videos I would be obliged. I feel a need to return to school.

I'm Catholic. Don't know if I'm 'more religious' than you, but I certainly found it absolutely offensive and religiously insensitive.

I have never reported any image violation before I reported that one.

You are more religious than me. I am pretty sure.

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Since some women feel their bodies are dirty, filthy and should not be looked at, or touched ..........

oh wow.

That sounds awful. I'm not like that and I don't know anyone like that at all, I'm sorry you've come across that attitude from some women, though. :(

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Site Discussion is turning into sight-discussion, see man.

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oh wow.

That sounds awful. I'm not like that and I don't know anyone like that at all, I'm sorry you've come across that attitude from some women, though. :(

It does sound awful. I love being a woman, personally, don't have a lot of hang-ups about my body and encourage other women to overcome their own issues. However, while I celebrate vulvas I don't want to look at them on VJ.

I don't have issues with pics that are Victoria's Secret level of skin on VJ. It's disingenuous to feign ignorance of the distinction between triangles of material covering T&A and triangle shapes superimposed on a naked woman's body. If you want porn, there are many, many websites on which to view it. Posting links to porn is against TOS, and was covered the other summer when links to something about "dumpster sluts" were removed for that very reason.

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This is an IMMIGRATION site. What purpose do those pictures serve? Is there some hidden immigration message I'm missing? Just because you find it acceptable doesn't mean everyone does. It has nothing to do with how women feel about "their bodies" but instead what they feel they should be confronted with on an immigration site. If we wanted to look at porn, we'd go looking for it. I come here to give and receive immigration advice first and foremost. Then I might read news stories and whatever else, but I can tell you "look at porn" isn't on my list of reasons for coming to VJ, and I'm confused about why you come here for that... but hopefully you can get your fix elsewhere. I suggest Google.

Completely agree with you, Vanessa.smile.gif

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This is an IMMIGRATION site. What purpose do those pictures serve? Is there some hidden immigration message I'm missing? Just because you find it acceptable doesn't mean everyone does. It has nothing to do with how women feel about "their bodies" but instead what they feel they should be confronted with on an immigration site. If we wanted to look at porn, we'd go looking for it. I come here to give and receive immigration advice first and foremost. Then I might read news stories and whatever else, but I can tell you "look at porn" isn't on my list of reasons for coming to VJ, and I'm confused about why you come here for that... but hopefully you can get your fix elsewhere. I suggest Google.

So well put. I did not see what we were looking at before the take down or at this point know whom is fighting for what.... but I agree with Vanessa & Tony.

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This is an IMMIGRATION site. Is there some hidden immigration message I'm missing?
With these questions, one might raise the issue about the purpose of the OT and P&R fora, si man, neither of which are primarily immigration-related, no man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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