POVERTY STUFF

[Fiance. 4]

Hello you!

I still dont get this poverty thing, How much should my fiance make or how much is the minimum for 2 ppl leave in the usa? I read something about 15.000 is fine, but does that depend on the place you live or what? So lets say he makes 1500 per month = 18.000 per year would be enough for 2 ppl to live? and that is enought to show in the interwiew? why cant I show my incoming and stuff?

Thank you.

[Hell0W0rld 10]

For 2012 it will be $18,913 for 2 people..

[Fiance. 4]

so for example if the incoming is 5.000 per month and I have to pay a mortage of 3500 every month, I still have left 1500 per month wich is 18.000 per year, would that be enought for the poverty stuff???????????????????? for 2 ppl to live??????????????????

Many Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited April 20, 2012 by Fiance.

[LeftCoastLady 441]

Hello you!

I still dont get this poverty thing, How much should my fiance make or how much is the minimum for 2 ppl leave in the usa? I read something about 15.000 is fine, but does that depend on the place you live or what? So lets say he makes 1500 per month = 18.000 per year would be enough for 2 ppl to live? and that is enought to show in the interwiew? why cant I show my incoming and stuff?

Thank you.

Here are the poverty guidelines for 2012: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

You'll want to look at the 125% column, unless the USC is active duty military. So, if your fiancé is not active duty, then the amount he needs to make -- at a minimum -- for two people is $18,912.

[LeftCoastLady 441]

so for example if the incoming is 5.000 per month and I have to pay a mortage of 3500 every month, I still have left 1500 per month wich is 18.000 per year, would that be enought for the poverty stuff???????????????????? for 2 ppl to live??????????????????

Many Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The embassy won't look at your fiancé's bills. They want to see a history of income via paystubs and tax returns and proof of employment. So, if your fiancé actually makes $60k per year, then he's well over the poverty line.

Edited April 20, 2012 by LeftCoastLady

[Fiance. 4]

Here are the poverty guidelines for 2012: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

You'll want to look at the 125% column, unless the USC is active duty military. So, if your fiancé is not active duty, then the amount he needs to make -- at a minimum -- for two people is $18,912.

yea but how about the case I just posted it?

Many Thanks!!

[LeftCoastLady 441]

yea but how about the case I just posted it?

Many Thanks!!

I responded to your other question above as well:

The embassy won't look at your fiancé's bills. They want to see a history of income via paystubs and tax returns and proof of employment. So, if your fiancé actually makes $60k per year, then he's well over the poverty line.

[Fiance. 4]

I responded to your other question above as well:

[aam 3]

Hello you!

I still dont get this poverty thing, How much should my fiance make or how much is the minimum for 2 ppl leave in the usa? I read something about 15.000 is fine, but does that depend on the place you live or what? So lets say he makes 1500 per month = 18.000 per year would be enough for 2 ppl to live? and that is enought to show in the interwiew? why cant I show my incoming and stuff?

Thank you.

2012 Poverty Guidelines for the

48 Contiguous States and the District of Columbia Persons in

family/household Poverty guideline

1 $11,170

2 15,130

3 19,090

4 23,050

5 27,010

6 30,970

7 34,930

8 38,890

Since there is 2 of you, you need to make 15130.00. Plan and simple. This is the guideline they will be using. Unless you are living in Alaska or Hawaii it does not matter where you live in the United States

[LeftCoastLady 441]

2012 Poverty Guidelines for the

48 Contiguous States and the District of Columbia Persons in

family/household Poverty guideline

1 $11,170

2 15,130

3 19,090

4 23,050

5 27,010

6 30,970

7 34,930

8 38,890

Since there is 2 of you, you need to make 15130.00. Plan and simple. This is the guideline they will be using. Unless you are living in Alaska or Hawaii it does not matter where you live in the United States

You posted the information at the 100% level, which as noted above is for active duty military. Most embassies look at the 125% level, so again, the minimum amount for two people would be $18,912.

[KayDeeCee 4,893]

so for example if the incoming is 5.000 per month and I have to pay a mortage of 3500 every month, I still have left 1500 per month wich is 18.000 per year, would that be enought for the poverty stuff???????????????????? for 2 ppl to live??????????????????

Many Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is gross income they look at. They do not care about your debts and bills, and never ask to see them. Look at line 22 of the IRS 1040 for total income amount. If that is above the $18,912 needed for a household of 2, then you are good to go. If his W-2 shows at least $18,912 or more, then you are good to go.

2012 Poverty Guidelines for the

48 Contiguous States and the District of Columbia Persons in

family/household Poverty guideline

1 $11,170

2 15,130

3 19,090

4 23,050

5 27,010

6 30,970

7 34,930

8 38,890

Since there is 2 of you, you need to make 15130.00. Plan and simple. This is the guideline they will be using. Unless you are living in Alaska or Hawaii it does not matter where you live in the United States

No, this is incorrect and has been mentioned here on VJ numerous times. It is only 100% of the poverty level for active duty military. It needs to be 125% for everyone else. Most consulates will want to see 125% or greater because you must file for AOS soon after arriving in the US and getting married, in which case you will need to provide an I-864 at 125%. Go by this guideline, and be prepared with at least 125%: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

[HeatDeath 430]

+1 above. The minimum income number USCIS need to see (100 or 125% of the federal poverty line, depending on circumstances) is gross annual income - i.e. the number on his W-2 for how much he was paid, in total, before taxes, that year. It's not leftover money after bills or anything like that.

[Fiance. 4]

+1 above. The minimum income number USCIS need to see (100 or 125% of the federal poverty line, depending on circumstances) is gross annual income - i.e. the number on his W-2 for how much he was paid, in total, before taxes, that year. It's not leftover money after bills or anything like that.

Has anyone here had a problem with this poverty stuff??????????????????

thank you!

[HeatDeath 430]

My USC now-wife was unemployed through the entire K-1/AOS process, so she didn't even come close to qualifying on her own. Her mother agreed to be a cosponsor, and she made more than enough to qualify for a household including her, her husband, me, and my wife (who was still living at home at the time).

Prior to the K-1 interview we gathered up all of the documentation for both an I-134 and an I-864 for both my now-wife and my now-mother-in-law, and even though my now-wife's stated income was 0 on both her I-134 and I-864, it was no problem at all. We cruised through both the consulate interview and AOS, and the only minor wrinkle was that the consular officer was mildly concerned (but not to the point of considering denial) of how I would keep my diabetes treated without being able to immediately get medical insurance through my now-wife.

Edited April 22, 2012 by HeatDeath

[Mark + Melissa 49]

Look, it's simple. The poverty level is established for YOUR benefit. Since the beneficiary may find it impossible to get a job for two years, the USC must support that beneficiary, and any children, without US government assistance. Either the sponsor makes the 125% of the US-established poverty level, or you need a sponsor, so that you don't starve and can have a place to live. If he can't support the minimum, how on earth are you going to pay for green card?