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Applicant - did not file and was not asked for long form certificate

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jdh   103

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Hey guys,

Just curious if I missed something. I have seen chatter about long form birth certificates before but did not see anywhere on the instructions that required me as the applicant to submit a long form certificate, it just said birth certificate.

All I have ever had is a small card one, and according to my mother that is all you get in Canada - I have found that you actually can get a long form one.

In any case....when we sent out packet I did send a copy of my wife's (USC) long form certificate and a copy of my little one. I have not received any RFE for anything different but I am wondering if I should have had to order and include a long form one for myself? Is there somewhere that states it has to be long form for the applicant that I missed?

Just curious, not stressed as I haven't been RFE'd and the interview is in a few weeks...

July 2005 - met my awesome, hot, amazing love in Lousiana.
July 2006 - Married said love and moved to Canada.
June 2011 - Entered US to visit family, decided to stay.
Feb. 2012 - Sent paperwork to Chicago.

May 2012 - Received green card.

Day 0 - Package sent to Chicago Lockbox - 02/27/2012
Day 2 - UPS Tracking Confirmation - 02/29/2012
Day 4 - NOA Emails Received - 03/02/2012
Day 7 - All Checks Cashed - 03/05/2012
Day 11 - Hard Copy NOA's Received - 03/09/2012
Day 11 - Biometrics Appointment Received - 03/09/2012
--------- - Booked for - 04/03/2012 (day 36)
Day 35 - Early Biometricts Walk-in - 04/02/2012
Day 44 - Received Appointment Letter - 04/11/2012
Day 58 - EAD Approval Online - 04/25/2012
Day 63 - EAD in the mail - 04/30/2012
Day 65 - EAD in hand - 05/02/2012
Day 77 - AOS Interview - 05/14/2012
Day 77 - AOS Approved!
Day 84 - Green Card In Hand - 05/21/2012

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Harpa Timsah   13,258

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It's not in the instructions because this is a Canada-unique thing. It does say the short-form is not good enough in the Canada Documents section from DOS here. http://travel.state.gov/visa/fees/fees_5455.html?cid=9013#docs

You can be RFE'd at any time, even at the interview.

Edited by Harpa Timsah

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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jdh   103

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Good to know, I will probably put in an order for one just in case...my home province is only taking a couple days to process apps for them.

So, to be clear...what do you mean it is Canadian unique? What exactly are you saying is unique to Canada?

The country reciprocity link you sent specifies that a short form is insufficient for visa purposes, but would that hold true to these Immigration forms that don't request it specifically? An I-485 is not an application for a visa...

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July 2005 - met my awesome, hot, amazing love in Lousiana.
July 2006 - Married said love and moved to Canada.
June 2011 - Entered US to visit family, decided to stay.
Feb. 2012 - Sent paperwork to Chicago.

May 2012 - Received green card.

Day 0 - Package sent to Chicago Lockbox - 02/27/2012
Day 2 - UPS Tracking Confirmation - 02/29/2012
Day 4 - NOA Emails Received - 03/02/2012
Day 7 - All Checks Cashed - 03/05/2012
Day 11 - Hard Copy NOA's Received - 03/09/2012
Day 11 - Biometrics Appointment Received - 03/09/2012
--------- - Booked for - 04/03/2012 (day 36)
Day 35 - Early Biometricts Walk-in - 04/02/2012
Day 44 - Received Appointment Letter - 04/11/2012
Day 58 - EAD Approval Online - 04/25/2012
Day 63 - EAD in the mail - 04/30/2012
Day 65 - EAD in hand - 05/02/2012
Day 77 - AOS Interview - 05/14/2012
Day 77 - AOS Approved!
Day 84 - Green Card In Hand - 05/21/2012

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sheeshkabelle   153

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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It's not Canadian unique. Canada is the only one that issues those little card style short form certificates. You can get a long form.

You may not get an RFE for it, but you should get one, just in case.

In the US now, you can't do anything with out a long form birth certificate, so you'll need it eventually.

USCIS- 260 Days

6/8/11~ Mailed I-130 Application, withdrew Canadian PR application
6/16/11~ NOA1 email and text message Case routed to CSC (Priority Date)
7/12/11~ The 'Money Order' Incident/Returned to Tennessee
8/03/11~ TOUCHED!
3/2/12~ APPROVED! NOA2!

NVC Electronic Processing- Montreal- 19 Days

3/21/12~ Received case number & IIN 20 Days after NOA2
3/21/12~ Sent in opt-in email
3/22/12~ Opt-in accepted
3/23/12~ DS-261 Submitted, never accepted
3/29/12~ AOS bill invoiced and paid
3/30/12~ AOS shows PAID- AOS Package emailed/received, DS-3032 emailed/accepted
4/2/12~ IV bill invoiced and paid
4/3/12~ AOS Checklist documents emailed(first time)
4/4/12~ IV shows PAID- DS-260 submitted/ IV Package emailed/received
4/4/12~ AOS Checklist documents sent again for CYA (second time)
4/5/12~ IV package accepted! No Checklists!
4/6/12~ AOS Checklist emailed(third time)
4/9/12~ AOS packet accepted (finally)
CASE COMPLETE!!

Interview 354 days from NOA1/ 362 days from initial filing date
5/29/12~ Medical@ Medisys, Montreal
6/4/12~ Interview APPROVED!!!
08/07/2012~ POE Emerson, MB/Pembina, ND by land
08/09/2012~ HOME!! 424 days from initial filing date!
08/14/2012~ SSN Received
09/10/2012~ Received Green Card

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JDH - I posted earlier today about this issue. Sent in Ontario short form not realizing long form even existed. Just wondering whether you submitted application for EAD with your I-485 package, and if so, whether you have it yet. I ordered my long form and received it less than a week later. My only concern with getting an RFE is slowing down the EAD process.

In any event, I'm cautiously optimistic if you haven't received RFE yet...

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Harpa Timsah   13,258

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Good to know, I will probably put in an order for one just in case...my home province is only taking a couple days to process apps for them.

So, to be clear...what do you mean it is Canadian unique? What exactly are you saying is unique to Canada?

The country reciprocity link you sent specifies that a short form is insufficient for visa purposes, but would that hold true to these Immigration forms that don't request it specifically? An I-485 is not an application for a visa...

The situation is unique to Canada because other countries don't have a "short" and "long" form birth certificate so this issue wouldn't arise (at least none others that I know of).

The website I linked you to is DOS and yes, it is talking mainly about visa issuance from abroad. I suppose since you are dealing only with USCIS within the US they might not care, but from what I understand, the requirements for visa issuance and I-485 concurrent approval are mostly the same (the only difference I can think of is police certificates). I also think the adjudicators at USCIS use this list to determine if the documents are sufficient.

Edited by Harpa Timsah

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Hey guys,

Just curious if I missed something. I have seen chatter about long form birth certificates before but did not see anywhere on the instructions that required me as the applicant to submit a long form certificate, it just said birth certificate.

All I have ever had is a small card one, and according to my mother that is all you get in Canada - I have found that you actually can get a long form one.

In any case....when we sent out packet I did send a copy of my wife's (USC) long form certificate and a copy of my little one. I have not received any RFE for anything different but I am wondering if I should have had to order and include a long form one for myself? Is there somewhere that states it has to be long form for the applicant that I missed?

Just curious, not stressed as I haven't been RFE'd and the interview is in a few weeks...

Hi Friend-

I am in the same boat...I have heard some ppl get RFEs and some don't. Who knows. I ordered mine on April 1st, (Sunday) and then received it in the mail on the very next Wednesday. Its 35 bucks...its actually kind of neat to see your parents writing from when you were born.

No stress-I am keeping good thoughts that you and i will get bypassed on this...LOL

PS-my parents never received this long form BC from the government...kind of messed up that they don't send it out automatically... LOL

Edited by chimcham

06/25/12-2 Year Green Card Approved

05/13/14-Mailed ROC

05/15/14-NOA Receipt Date

05/19/14-Check posted to account and NOA received in mail

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jdh   103

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Thanks for the help all. Looks like I will order one just in case I have need of it. My interview is May 14th so should be lots of time to get it.

No EAD yet - I am expecting it the end of the month or right before the interview, likely.

Yeah, Chim. It is odd they don't provide it to the family automatically.

July 2005 - met my awesome, hot, amazing love in Lousiana.
July 2006 - Married said love and moved to Canada.
June 2011 - Entered US to visit family, decided to stay.
Feb. 2012 - Sent paperwork to Chicago.

May 2012 - Received green card.

Day 0 - Package sent to Chicago Lockbox - 02/27/2012
Day 2 - UPS Tracking Confirmation - 02/29/2012
Day 4 - NOA Emails Received - 03/02/2012
Day 7 - All Checks Cashed - 03/05/2012
Day 11 - Hard Copy NOA's Received - 03/09/2012
Day 11 - Biometrics Appointment Received - 03/09/2012
--------- - Booked for - 04/03/2012 (day 36)
Day 35 - Early Biometricts Walk-in - 04/02/2012
Day 44 - Received Appointment Letter - 04/11/2012
Day 58 - EAD Approval Online - 04/25/2012
Day 63 - EAD in the mail - 04/30/2012
Day 65 - EAD in hand - 05/02/2012
Day 77 - AOS Interview - 05/14/2012
Day 77 - AOS Approved!
Day 84 - Green Card In Hand - 05/21/2012

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