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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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Hey,

I am filling out the I-130 form. Question # 21 asks "If filing for your husband/wife, give last address at which you lived together". My marriage with my wife was arranged, so we never lived together. So do I just leave this blank or put N/A in it?

It seems like its almost a requirement to live together for filling out this form.

One more question. My wife does not have a last name on her passport. Would that be a problem?

Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks!!

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Do not leave anything blank always fill it in if you did not live together put N/A because its not applicable to you.

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Hey,

I am filling out the I-130 form. Question # 21 asks "If filing for your husband/wife, give last address at which you lived together". My marriage with my wife was arranged, so we never lived together. So do I just leave this blank or put N/A in it?

It seems like its almost a requirement to live together for filling out this form.

One more question. My wife does not have a last name on her passport. Would that be a problem?

Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks!!

An appropriate answer is "We have not yet lived together," this is what I typed on the form when I filled it out and I had no issues. "None" is also an appropriate answer. The questions IS applicable to you so "N/A" is not an appropriate response. USCIS will understand that people living apart will not have a common residence.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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An appropriate answer is "We have not yet lived together," this is what I typed on the form when I filled it out and I had no issues. "None" is also an appropriate answer. The questions IS applicable to you so "N/A" is not an appropriate response. USCIS will understand that people living apart will not have a common residence.

That makes a lot of sense. Thank you!!

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Can it be your address after marriage in India?

you must have lived together for 2-3 weeks or 1 week, or 5 days at a address in India.

It does not say before marriage address.....

Be careful with this....

I have put in my India address where we lived together as a married couple for 3 weeks after our marriage. :thumbs:

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Can it be your address after marriage in India?

you must have lived together for 2-3 weeks or 1 week, or 5 days at a address in India.

It does not say before marriage address.....

Be careful with this....

I have put in my India address where we lived together as a married couple for 3 weeks after our marriage. :thumbs:

I suspect the USC only visited, not resided in, India. I like the answer, "We have visited but not yet resided together in the same country."

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nepal
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Hey,

I am filling out the I-130 form. Question # 21 asks "If filing for your husband/wife, give last address at which you lived together". My marriage with my wife was arranged, so we never lived together. So do I just leave this blank or put N/A in it?

It seems like its almost a requirement to live together for filling out this form.

One more question. My wife does not have a last name on her passport. Would that be a problem?

Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks!!

From you time line, you got married on 03-27-2012 and I believed, you were with her at least for a week after marriage. So, your home address back from India should be the best answer even you spent out of the home town for your short honey moon trip. After marriage, I was with my wife for less than 3 weeks on different locations including my home and I put the home address on question # 21.

I am little bit confused about 2nd question. Are you talking about not having your last name on her Passport??? I am positive that she should have her MAIDEN name on her passport. I went through the whole I -130 process with my wife's maiden name. We are planning to change her last name when she gets here. My understanding: as long as same name (last & first as in Passport) is listed on your Marriage Certificate, you should be good to go....

Good luck for the Petition :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

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[b][color="#FF0000"]USCIS Journey[/color][/b]
06/25/2011 - Married @ native country
Mid of August: Filled N400
Mid Of October : Filled I -130 ( LPR F2A)
10/17/2011 : NOA1
12/08/2011 : Oath Ceremoney for N400, Boston @ 12:00 pm
12/08/2011 : [b]Called VSC to Upgrade the Case [color="#FF0000"]( LPR F2A to CR-1)[/color] @ 3pm[/b]
12/12/2011 : Email Confirmation of Upgrade
[color="#008000"][b]04/14/2012 : NOA2[/color][/b]([i]Can't Express how happy I was and relieved from A Long WAITING GAME.....but everyone has to go through it......)[/i]

[color="#FF0000"][b]NVC Journey[/b][/color]

04/24/2012---Case number and IIN received, Email address Provided of both petitionner and benificiary
04/24/2012---DS 3032 emailed to NVC
04/26/2012---AOS fee bill paid
04/27/2012---AOS fee bill shows " PAID"
04/30/2012---AOS package sent
05/02/2012---DS 3032 accepted
05/02/2012---IV fee bill invoiced
05/04/2012---IV fee bill shows " PAID"
05/04/2012---IV package sent
05/11/2012---AOS Reviewed and Accepted
05/14/2012---IV package Reviewed and Accepted

[b][color="#2E8B57"]05/15/2012--------Case Complete[/color][/b] [color="#FF00FF"] [[i]([s]Wow....!!!!!! Wait....Ouch...Did i miss "Interview Scheduling" process for this month by day or 2 days??[/s]?)[/color][/i]

06/06/2012-----[b]Interview Date Assigned[/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Medical / Consulate / POE[/color][/b]
06/08/2012-----Medical Exam
06/15/2012-----Case Forwarded to Embassy
06/24/2012-----1st Marriage Anniversary
07/10/2012-----Interview date: [b][color="#00BFFF"]APPROVED[/color][/b]
07/17/2012-----[i][b][color="#2E8B57"]Boston,MA [/color][/b][/i]

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From you time line, you got married on 03-27-2012 and I believed, you were with her at least for a week after marriage. So, your home address back from India should be the best answer even you spent out of the home town for your short honey moon trip. After marriage, I was with my wife for less than 3 weeks on different locations including my home and I put the home address on question # 21.

I am little bit confused about 2nd question. Are you talking about not having your last name on her Passport??? I am positive that she should have her MAIDEN name on her passport. I went through the whole I -130 process with my wife's maiden name. We are planning to change her last name when she gets here. My understanding: as long as same name (last & first as in Passport) is listed on your Marriage Certificate, you should be good to go....

Good luck for the Petition :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

Visiting a country is not the same as living there. This couple has not yet resided together. It's just a question. No truthful answer is a wrong answer to it.

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Visiting a country is not the same as living there. This couple has not yet resided together. It's just a question. No truthful answer is a wrong answer to it.

I agree with you. I only visited there and didn't live, so that's what I am going to state on the application.

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Visiting a country is not the same as living there. This couple has not yet resided together. It's just a question. No truthful answer is a wrong answer to it.

Technically, you might be right, I am not sure how long we have to be live together to fill the answer # 21. but most of the time, in arrange marriage ( at least in my culture) wife will start living with her husband in husband house the very next day and they have to visit their relatives; sometimes overnight stay and sometime just couple of hours, still husband house will be consider as main hub. and if i am not wrong, there was box where we can put the date that the couple lived together for the last time for question # 21.

In my case, i put my home address with less than 3 weeks time frame. So, I dont see I gave the wrong infromation.

@ Atlantakid123

I just shared my experience which might not be always true in every case. One thing for sure; dont give the false information. If you mention that you guys lived together for more than year at same place before marriage, then it will be totally false...I know such situation is barely exist in our culture and forget about it when it is arrange marriage.....

last but not least, spend couple of more days to do research before sending your petition. if you dont hear after 5 months ( which is probably happen), you will doubt yourself whether you might did some thing wrong on filling the petition :unsure::blink: .....Waiting is not easy and when it is related with your beloved spouse...its even worse......

[b][color="#FF0000"]USCIS Journey[/color][/b]
06/25/2011 - Married @ native country
Mid of August: Filled N400
Mid Of October : Filled I -130 ( LPR F2A)
10/17/2011 : NOA1
12/08/2011 : Oath Ceremoney for N400, Boston @ 12:00 pm
12/08/2011 : [b]Called VSC to Upgrade the Case [color="#FF0000"]( LPR F2A to CR-1)[/color] @ 3pm[/b]
12/12/2011 : Email Confirmation of Upgrade
[color="#008000"][b]04/14/2012 : NOA2[/color][/b]([i]Can't Express how happy I was and relieved from A Long WAITING GAME.....but everyone has to go through it......)[/i]

[color="#FF0000"][b]NVC Journey[/b][/color]

04/24/2012---Case number and IIN received, Email address Provided of both petitionner and benificiary
04/24/2012---DS 3032 emailed to NVC
04/26/2012---AOS fee bill paid
04/27/2012---AOS fee bill shows " PAID"
04/30/2012---AOS package sent
05/02/2012---DS 3032 accepted
05/02/2012---IV fee bill invoiced
05/04/2012---IV fee bill shows " PAID"
05/04/2012---IV package sent
05/11/2012---AOS Reviewed and Accepted
05/14/2012---IV package Reviewed and Accepted

[b][color="#2E8B57"]05/15/2012--------Case Complete[/color][/b] [color="#FF00FF"] [[i]([s]Wow....!!!!!! Wait....Ouch...Did i miss "Interview Scheduling" process for this month by day or 2 days??[/s]?)[/color][/i]

06/06/2012-----[b]Interview Date Assigned[/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Medical / Consulate / POE[/color][/b]
06/08/2012-----Medical Exam
06/15/2012-----Case Forwarded to Embassy
06/24/2012-----1st Marriage Anniversary
07/10/2012-----Interview date: [b][color="#00BFFF"]APPROVED[/color][/b]
07/17/2012-----[i][b][color="#2E8B57"]Boston,MA [/color][/b][/i]

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Technically, you might be right, I am not sure how long we have to be live together to fill the answer # 21. but most of the time, in arrange marriage ( at least in my culture) wife will start living with her husband in husband house the very next day and they have to visit their relatives; sometimes overnight stay and sometime just couple of hours, still husband house will be consider as main hub. and if i am not wrong, there was box where we can put the date that the couple lived together for the last time for question # 21.

In my case, i put my home address with less than 3 weeks time frame. So, I dont see I gave the wrong infromation.

@ Atlantakid123

I just shared my experience which might not be always true in every case. One thing for sure; dont give the false information. If you mention that you guys lived together for more than year at same place before marriage, then it will be totally false...I know such situation is barely exist in our culture and forget about it when it is arrange marriage.....

last but not least, spend couple of more days to do research before sending your petition. if you dont hear after 5 months ( which is probably happen), you will doubt yourself whether you might did some thing wrong on filling the petition :unsure::blink: .....Waiting is not easy and when it is related with your beloved spouse...its even worse......

If you only have a visitor visa, you are not "residing" or "living" there. If you're not living in a country, you are not living with your spouse in that country. If you say you lived together at an address, you can be expected to show evidence of "cohabitation" such as a lease, utility bill etc. Visitors can't provide such evidence. The answer I suggested is the correct answer in these situations. It carries no negative connotation in a newlywed spouse visa case. Many cases where I-130 petitions are filed are NOT newlyweds. The question is directed at those folks.

The spouse immigration process IS technical and questions and their answers have technical meaning and real consequences.

All that said, many folks make the mistake of providing information related to a "visit" in answer to #21 on the I-130. Unless there are other reasons to suspect fraud, this common mistake is almost always excused but rest assured, it IS a mistake.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Nepal
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If you only have a visitor visa, you are not "residing" or "living" there. If you're not living in a country, you are not living with your spouse in that country. If you say you lived together at an address, you can be expected to show evidence of "cohabitation" such as a lease, utility bill etc. Visitors can't provide such evidence. The answer I suggested is the correct answer in these situations. It carries no negative connotation in a newlywed spouse visa case. Many cases where I-130 petitions are filed are NOT newlyweds. The question is directed at those folks.

The spouse immigration process IS technical and questions and their answers have technical meaning and real consequences.

All that said, many folks make the mistake of providing information related to a "visit" in answer to #21 on the I-130. Unless there are other reasons to suspect fraud, this common mistake is almost always excused but rest assured, it IS a mistake.

thanks for the explanation on technicality.....hope this topic gives the best idea for people who are in the process to file I -130

[b][color="#FF0000"]USCIS Journey[/color][/b]
06/25/2011 - Married @ native country
Mid of August: Filled N400
Mid Of October : Filled I -130 ( LPR F2A)
10/17/2011 : NOA1
12/08/2011 : Oath Ceremoney for N400, Boston @ 12:00 pm
12/08/2011 : [b]Called VSC to Upgrade the Case [color="#FF0000"]( LPR F2A to CR-1)[/color] @ 3pm[/b]
12/12/2011 : Email Confirmation of Upgrade
[color="#008000"][b]04/14/2012 : NOA2[/color][/b]([i]Can't Express how happy I was and relieved from A Long WAITING GAME.....but everyone has to go through it......)[/i]

[color="#FF0000"][b]NVC Journey[/b][/color]

04/24/2012---Case number and IIN received, Email address Provided of both petitionner and benificiary
04/24/2012---DS 3032 emailed to NVC
04/26/2012---AOS fee bill paid
04/27/2012---AOS fee bill shows " PAID"
04/30/2012---AOS package sent
05/02/2012---DS 3032 accepted
05/02/2012---IV fee bill invoiced
05/04/2012---IV fee bill shows " PAID"
05/04/2012---IV package sent
05/11/2012---AOS Reviewed and Accepted
05/14/2012---IV package Reviewed and Accepted

[b][color="#2E8B57"]05/15/2012--------Case Complete[/color][/b] [color="#FF00FF"] [[i]([s]Wow....!!!!!! Wait....Ouch...Did i miss "Interview Scheduling" process for this month by day or 2 days??[/s]?)[/color][/i]

06/06/2012-----[b]Interview Date Assigned[/b]

[b][color="#FF0000"]Medical / Consulate / POE[/color][/b]
06/08/2012-----Medical Exam
06/15/2012-----Case Forwarded to Embassy
06/24/2012-----1st Marriage Anniversary
07/10/2012-----Interview date: [b][color="#00BFFF"]APPROVED[/color][/b]
07/17/2012-----[i][b][color="#2E8B57"]Boston,MA [/color][/b][/i]

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thanks for the explanation on technicality.....hope this topic gives the best idea for people who are in the process to file I -130

Interestingly, there are many non US immigration related exceptions. For instance, to get my Chinese Driving License, I needed to be registered as living at my Brother in-law's home. That was no problem at all in China but my wife is not registered as living at that address. China is not the USA, obviously.

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An appropriate answer is "We have not yet lived together," this is what I typed on the form when I filled it out and I had no issues. "None" is also an appropriate answer. The questions IS applicable to you so "N/A" is not an appropriate response. USCIS will understand that people living apart will not have a common residence.

My answer was the time we spent together when I came to visit the country. We lived those days together, around a month. Do you think I answered wrong and could have problems?

Finally we all three together. We are happy :)

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My answer was the time we spent together when I came to visit the country. We lived those days together, around a month. Do you think I answered wrong and could have problems?

Yes, you answered wrong, you did not live there, you were visiting. An adjudicator could decide to simply excuse it and move on or decide to request evidence showing cohabitation such as a lease or utility bills in both names.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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