Now that they already have theirs... India & Pakistan condemn North Korea for nuke test

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"We had urged [North Korea] to desist from introducing nuclear weapons in the Korean peninsula," Pakistani foreign office spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

"It is regrettable that [North Korea] chose to ignore the advice by the international community not to conduct the test."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6032843.stm

In a strongly worded statement, India said Pyongyang is "in violation of its international commitments, jeopardizing peace, stability and security on the Korean Peninsula and in the region."

The test also "highlights the dangers of clandestine proliferation," a reference to reports that Pakistan's former top nuclear scientist gave centrifuge machines and their designs to North Korea.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/09/...ndia_NKorea.php

[Mirorgate 0]

Who wants to give up the top spot on the mountain.

King of the mountain here we go! hah!

[almaty 19]

hey, india and pakistan have a history of peace and goodness with each other....not like north korea ..yeah right..

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Once I'm done testing my own nuclear device I'll be in the condemning mood too.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

LOL it's no fun having nukes if everyone else has them, too Pretty soon the N-nations will have no one left to lord it over... how sad

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Who wants to give up the top spot on the mountain.

King of the mountain here we go! hah!

Your analogy is somewhat flawed here.

The "top spot" was originally occupied by US--which is also the current #1 in numbers (even after arms reductions); Pakistan, India and Israel COMBINED have fewer than PRC.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Who wants to give up the top spot on the mountain.

King of the mountain here we go! hah!

Your analogy is somewhat flawed here.

The "top spot" was originally occupied by US--which is also the current #1 in numbers (even after arms reductions); Pakistan, India and Israel COMBINED have fewer than PRC.

Wow you know how many nukes Israel has ? You must be the only one outside Israel to have that kind of info, as Israel will not confirm or deny that it has ANY nuclear weapons, or even a program to develop them at all -- although everyone knows about it thanks to their whistle-blower, Mordechai Vanunu (and look what they did to him.) Israel refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty; nor does it allow international inspectors into Dimona.

Anyway, most international experts believe that Israel has a stockpile of 75-200 weapons (although I have seen high-end guess-timates up to 400.)

So where did you get your idea that North Korea has *more* nukes than Pakistan, India and Israel combined ??? According to Wikipedia:

Pakistan has 65-90

and India has 75-115

North Korea is way down at the bottom of the list with 1-10

But yes, the U.S. is still #1 (but just barely ahead of Russia.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...nuclear_weapons

[faal4anisa 0]

Now north korea too emerged as a nuclear power so now peac and stability is very important in the whole region esp in the sub continent otherwise little trigger of fire can burn this whole world whether korea did clandestine nuclear test but now it is so imperative that peace prevails and anomosity dies

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...So where did you get your idea that North Korea has *more* nukes than Pakistan, India and Israel combined ??? According to Wikipedia:

Pakistan has 65-90

and India has 75-115

North Korea is way down at the bottom of the list with 1-10...

Your understanding of abbreviations/acronyms is deplorable!

PRC = People's Republic of China (aka "Mainland" China) which has somewhere between 400 and 1,000.

North Korea = "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (DPRK).

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Your understanding of abbreviations/acronyms is deplorable!

PRC = People's Republic of China (aka "Mainland" China) which has somewhere between 400 and 1,000.

North Korea = "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (DPRK).

My bad. The thread was about North Korea, and I didn't read your post closely enough before replying. My apologies. You may deplore me.

However, it seems that the basic argument still holds: your numbers appear to be quite inflated. According to the same Wikipedia info, Red China is believed to have *130* nuclear weapons. Where did you get your info ?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Your understanding of abbreviations/acronyms is deplorable!

PRC = People's Republic of China (aka "Mainland" China) which has somewhere between 400 and 1,000.

North Korea = "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" (DPRK).

My bad. The thread was about North Korea, and I didn't read your post closely enough before replying. My apologies. You may deplore me.

However, it seems that the basic argument still holds: your numbers appear to be quite inflated. According to the same Wikipedia info, Red China is believed to have *130* nuclear weapons. Where did you get your info ?

London Times uses 400 -- the number of 130 is impossibly low for PRC.

Edited October 10, 2006 by CherryXS

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You may deplore me.

*snicker*

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

London Times uses 400 -- the number of 130 is impossibly low for PRC.

Hmmmm. A Murdock paper citing a neo-con think tank as its source... while Wikipedia references the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

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Who wants to give up the top spot on the mountain.

King of the mountain here we go! hah!

Your analogy is somewhat flawed here.

The "top spot" was originally occupied by US--which is also the current #1 in numbers (even after arms reductions); Pakistan, India and Israel COMBINED have fewer than PRC.

My analagy is about who has what... not how many. That is what you interjected.

Having a nuke puts you at top of the hill... doesnt have to be about quantity.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

London Times uses 400 -- the number of 130 is impossibly low for PRC.

Hmmmm. A Murdock paper citing a neo-con think tank as its source... while Wikipedia references the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

Here is an exerpt from the bulletin--care to explain why it does not match the claim (to be using it as reference) by Wiki?

China is estimated to have an arsenal of around 400 nuclear warheads, down from 435 in 1993. China is thought to have produced some 600 nuclear warheads since 1964, and U.S. intelligence and defense agencies predict that over the next 15 years China may increase the number of warheads on primarily U.S-targeted missiles from 20 to between 75--100.

Link to bulletin page

I have a Taiwanese colleague who doesn't believe China ever reduced (due to the number of missiles China has pointing at Taiwan)--he estimates 500.