what is the best handgun and shotgun in america?

[Leatherneck 693]

Yeah....I REALLY want to move my family to "peaceful Australia"

Since the brilliant gun-control measures:

-Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.

-During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.

-Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.

-Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

-At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.

-Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

http://www.ncpa.org/...rticle_ID=17847

Gun haters don't believe in stats.

[sara..... 371]

my hands are small 357 magnum fits it just right.........pump action shot gun works for me.......

sara

[unlockingsky 94]

Being drunk isn't a reason to shoot somebody.

"i heard from friends that you can be drunk in australia and everyone is still nice to you. i wish united states was like that."

wow! how did you correlate/associate my previous sentence that i explicit/implicit stated that you can shoot people because you are drunk?

i think someone was drunk making this correlation/association notion.

[Visitor 90]

Just a tad off the track here but don't you have to be a US citizen to own a gun and have to have a concealed weapons permit to carry one n your person outside of your home? Genuine question cause I don't know.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Just a tad off the track here but don't you have to be a US citizen to own a gun and have to have a concealed weapons permit to carry one n your person outside of your home? Genuine question cause I don't know.

US citizen yes, permit...not in my state. The Bolshevik states require US citizens to have permits to carry a hand gun, but in my state and a few others they still respect the Constitution of the United States of America and do not require said states citizens to have any permit whatsoever. Here in Alaska I can carry a gun on my side and another one concealed with no permit whatsoever.

"i heard from friends that you can be drunk in australia and everyone is still nice to you. i wish united states was like that."

wow! how did you correlate/associate my previous sentence that i explicit/implicit stated that you can shoot people because you are drunk?

i think someone was drunk making this correlation/association notion.

She gets like that when she forgets to take her hormone pills.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Just a tad off the track here but don't you have to be a US citizen to own a gun and have to have a concealed weapons permit to carry one n your person outside of your home? Genuine question cause I don't know.

No. Permanent residents can buy guns and own guns in ANY state. Some (but not all) states allow permanent residents to have concealed permits and some states, like Vermont HAVE NO LAW against carrying concealed which means ANYONE can do it, even a visitor from Australia.

There are NO restrictions on the POSSESSION of a fireamr for lawful purposes. For example, you could come from Australia to visit me in my home in Vermont and I can GIVE you a gun to carry concealed while you are here. Perfectly legal. You could not buy your own, but you cn possess one.

Vermont has the lowest crime rate in the western hemisphere because we allow ANYONE the means to defend themselves.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

US citizen yes, permit...not in my state. The Bolshevik states require US citizens to have permits to carry a hand gun, but in my state and a few others they still respect the Constitution of the United States of America and do not require said states citizens to have any permit whatsoever. Here in Alaska I can carry a gun on my side and another one concealed with no permit whatsoever.

She gets like that when she forgets to take her hormone pills.

Not correct Kip. Alla has been buying guns as a stated Permanent Resident and used her green card as ID to purchase firearms. No problem. She bought me a new skeet gun for "Men's Day" Permanent residents ARE allowed to buy and own guns.

Seh just became a citizen Monday, so she bought the guns as an LPR.

[baron555 934]

Not correct Kip. Alla has been buying guns as a stated Permanent Resident and used her green card as ID to purchase firearms. No problem. She bought me a new skeet gun for "Men's Day" Permanent residents ARE allowed to buy and own guns.

Seh just became a citizen Monday, so she bought the guns as an LPR.

Here in the great state of Illinois, Alla can not obtain her state FOID until she has her 10 year GC, then she's good to go.

[unlockingsky 94]

Vermont has the lowest crime rate in the western hemisphere because we allow ANYONE the means to defend themselves.

haha... i love vermont... all about respect and honor in vermont.

btw. i found out that it takes years to get a hand gun license in nyc. looks like i will be sticking with my sword.

Edited April 15, 2012 by unlockingsky

[X Factor 1,112]

haha... i love vermont... all about respect and honor in vermont.

btw. i found out that it takes years to get a hand gun license in nyc. looks like i will be sticking with my sword.

Stun gun vs sword - who would win?

[himher 634]

My favorite (out of what is currently 7) is the Glock 26 (9mm) No safety. No complications. Just point and shoot

Advised to spend a little time at the range and learn to point correctly sport.

what is the best handgun and shotgun in america?

just for self defense and the gun is likely stay in-home.

[Leatherneck 693]

By even the slightest chance the sword wielding samurai cuts the hookup wire after the gun is fired - the guy with the stun gun might regret the encounter.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Here in the great state of Illinois, Alla can not obtain her state FOID until she has her 10 year GC, then she's good to go.

And Chicago has had a 60% increase in homicide so far this year. Sounds like a good plan.

I guess I should clarify, I referred to FEDERAL law. Some states have some further restrictions on firearms ownership. So far anyway. We are working on it. Vermont has no laws regarding selling firearms which exceed the Federal requirements.

[unlockingsky 94]

Advised to spend a little time at the range and learn to point correctly sport.

i had been around (not served) in the military and got the greatest chance of firing off the m16 and seen a chamber explosion. other than that I had bird hunting experience when i as around 10yr w/ a longbarrel 12 gauge.

By even the slightest chance the sword wielding samurai cuts the hookup wire after the gun is fired - the guy with the stun gun might regret the encounter.

if your strike it fast enough, you would be able to slice the wires as they are coming. at least it is better than catching a arrow with your hand.

And Chicago has had a 60% increase in homicide so far this year. Sounds like a good plan.

I guess I should clarify, I referred to FEDERAL law. Some states have some further restrictions on firearms ownership. So far anyway. We are working on it. Vermont has no laws regarding selling firearms which exceed the Federal requirements.

me dislike anti-law gun w/ exception of banning assault rifle... that is just overkill for defense. i would definitely give a exception for this

[baron555 934]

me dislike anti-law gun w/ exception of banning assault rifle... that is just overkill for defense. i would definitely give a exception for this

OK, then, define "assault rifle" please, to the best of your ability. (please keep your emotions out of the definition!)