issues about calling your fiance "hubby" on emails.

[lawren14 3]

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks.

[Ryan H 3,812]

You are going to have to forget about using those emails. An alternative could be to put all the messages from him in a special email folder (if you haven't already done so) showing all messages received along with the timestamp, you can just print the index showing the sender, subject line, and timestamp. This suggestion is viable only if you used no spousal terms in the subject line.

[jaycali 415]

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks.

What country is he from? This is a bigger deal to some consulates than to others. If he's from a "high-fraud" country, this is a huge red flag. If he's from a "low-fraud" country, it's still questionable. Forget about using the emails. DON'T send altered emails. if found out, it's equal to misrepresentation and will only result in a denied visa and likely bar from entering the country.

Using emails as evidence is not a must, it's a bonus. If you have enough additional evidence, no emails are needed.

I called my wife "wifey" long before we got married too. But this is not an issue when filing a 130.

Edited April 7, 2012 by jaejayC

[hellraiser 42]

My 2 cents: I have no idea what your source of on go is, but know this, except for breaking, violating, or hiding required information, there is no one red flag. I guess you will learn it as time goes by. We all on this site are so desperate and frustrated that we tend to hold on to every possible information. However, this I don't think would be measured as a red flag under any normal situation. Even if someone was rejected and was stated using of "hubby" in the mails, you would not know the chains of events that triggered the rejection. Just the way one may get rejected for using that workd or other words, thousands may not get rejected or even repriemended. The process tries to find a genuine relationship and if it raises doubt, lots of actions may seem dubious, even a regular action. So don't pull your hair out with the hubby word.

If you are truthful and is genuine with the relationship, keep your head high, and face everything with courage and conviction. If a problem comes your way, look at various options, evaluate them and deal with it your way using your judgment.

Best of luck.

[lawren14 3]

What country is he from? This is a bigger deal to some consulates than to others. If he's from a "high-fraud" country, this is a huge red flag. If he's from a "low-fraud" country, it's still questionable. Forget about using the emails. DON'T send altered emails.

I am the beneficiary, I'm from manila, Philippines.. yeah I guess I wont be using those emails anymore. Thank you

Edited April 7, 2012 by lawren14

[lawren14 3]

You are going to have to forget about using those emails. An alternative could be to put all the messages from him in a special email folder (if you haven't already done so) showing all messages received along with the timestamp, you can just print the index showing the sender, subject line, and timestamp. This suggestion is viable only if you used no spousal terms in the subject line.

yeah, great idea. why haven't i thought of that? Thank you, Ryan.

[DanishBill 15]

We had the same problem, but I included a note saying something along the lines of: after we fell in love we adopted cute names for eachother including - honey, sweetheart, wifey, hubby,etc., which you will see used in many emails and im's. No one ever asked us about this.

Good luck.

[Ivie & Eguagie 119]

We had the same problem, but I included a note saying something along the lines of: after we fell in love we adopted cute names for eachother including - honey, sweetheart, wifey, hubby,etc., which you will see used in many emails and im's. No one ever asked us about this.

Good luck.

Edited April 7, 2012 by Ken & Lecia

[lawren14 3]

My 2 cents: I have no idea what your source of on go is, but know this, except for breaking, violating, or hiding required information, there is no one red flag. I guess you will learn it as time goes by. We all on this site are so desperate and frustrated that we tend to hold on to every possible information. However, this I don't think would be measured as a red flag under any normal situation. Even if someone was rejected and was stated using of "hubby" in the mails, you would not know the chains of events that triggered the rejection. Just the way one may get rejected for using that workd or other words, thousands may not get rejected or even repriemended. The process tries to find a genuine relationship and if it raises doubt, lots of actions may seem dubious, even a regular action. So don't pull your hair out with the hubby word.

If you are truthful and is genuine with the relationship, keep your head high, and face everything with courage and conviction. If a problem comes your way, look at various options, evaluate them and deal with it your way using your judgment.

Best of luck.

very well said, hell raiser. Thank you

The reason I am so frustrated w/ that hubby word is, because as far as I know in K1 visa, we have to prove that our relationship is genuine and bona fide, but we also have to prove as well that we are JUST ABOUT TO MARRY each other. Because of course, if we were married then we should have filed for a K3 and not K1, right? And I think calling him HUBBY might make the CO suspect that we were already married. But honestly, just like you, I think it isn't new to hear unmarried couples call each other "hubby - wifey".. I guess the CO are just really strict about it. I learned that from reading a lot of posts. LOL.

But anyways, you are right, we all in this site are desperate for information that might help us, and Im happy to see a lot of users here to give their opinions and experiences as way of helping other members. It gives hope to those who are frustrated. God bless you guys.

[lawren14 3]

We had the same problem, but I included a note saying something along the lines of: after we fell in love we adopted cute names for eachother including - honey, sweetheart, wifey, hubby,etc., which you will see used in many emails and im's. No one ever asked us about this.

Good luck.

Wow, really?? Im glad to hear an answer based on own experience. Thank you. But honestly I'm still anxious about it. Well, I guess you understand how I feel right now. All I want is to make this K1 thing successful so I could be w/ my fiance as soon as possible.. I'm so scared of making mistakes.. That's why I am so dead careful about every single angle of this case. very stressful. sigh* Wish our case will turn out fine just like yours. Thank you!

[Nemata Musa 5]

fiance is totally differ from hubby..so i guess you use other emails......they probably think you all married already but you chose to file k1....you can say babe, honey,pookie pie, punkin pie, use all the sweet,juicy names in the universe and stay away from using hubby.

[pddp 240]

Why send any emails at all? There are many other less invasive ways to prove your relationship than private communications between the two of you. It's none of the USCIS' business what the two of you call each other.

[Xanax 349]

My 2 cents: I have no idea what your source of on go is, but know this, except for breaking, violating, or hiding required information, there is no one red flag. I guess you will learn it as time goes by. We all on this site are so desperate and frustrated that we tend to hold on to every possible information. However, this I don't think would be measured as a red flag under any normal situation. Even if someone was rejected and was stated using of "hubby" in the mails, you would not know the chains of events that triggered the rejection. Just the way one may get rejected for using that workd or other words, thousands may not get rejected or even repriemended. The process tries to find a genuine relationship and if it raises doubt, lots of actions may seem dubious, even a regular action. So don't pull your hair out with the hubby word.

If you are truthful and is genuine with the relationship, keep your head high, and face everything with courage and conviction. If a problem comes your way, look at various options, evaluate them and deal with it your way using your judgment.

Best of luck.

I am sure I have read of people who got denied or RFE'd at least for this. I would not send emails where you call each other hubby or wifey or wife etc.

Best to make sure you are doing the right thing and why even chance it?

Good luck

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks.

STOP DOING THAT! I would forget about submitting those eamails and submit something else. FWIW at our interview I submitted THREE emails from each of us over the period of our realtionship. They di dnot even read them or take them "behind the window" You do not need to submit every email you ever wrote. Better is an "email log" which shows all the emails that passed between you two, the dates and times and the subjects.

DO NOT refer to your fiancee as your husband, hubby or anything like that. I do not even call my wife "wife" when I talk to her and usually refer to her as "Alla" when speaking in third person such as in posts. Her name is no secret and has worked pretty good all her life...I sugest you use his name.

Pet names are OK "sweetheart", "honey" etc but NOTHING that refers to marital status.

[ScottMelanie 4]

I learned just recently that it's a big no-no to submit any copy of evidence that shows you're calling your fiance, "hubby".. I was so pissed w/ myself because in ALMOST EVERY EMAIL AND LETTER that i sent my fiance throughout these years, there was this red flag wherein I called him HUBBY. Now, I don't know if I have to just forget about submitting those emails, or can just erase the part of the emails wherein I called him that way. But honestly, I think erasing a part of the emails is not a good idea cause the consul might ask me why I have those marks on the letters/emails which seemed to be erased.. It would look more obvious, dont you think? But if I wont do that, I will have no emails to submit. But he does call me everyday, and I do call him through skype too. and we chat for like twice a week.. Will that be enough as proof of ongoing relationship? Thanks.

So many successful K-1 applicants from the Philippines have reported that they did not provide any emails at all. Scan this website for them. A print-out of emails is very poor evidence, anyway. Provide things that better show you have visited, such as airline tickets, visa stamps, hotel registrations (with both names included), or perhaps evidence of financial support (Xoom or WU receipts), etc.