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aljabbah   0

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My adopted daughter (6 years old) entered the USA with a IR2 visa.

With the stamped visa, and other supporting documents (like adoption certificates), I was able to get her USA Passport a few days later.

After returning to the originating country (I work and live overseas) I got her Permanent Resident (Green) Card in the mail about a month later.

If my daughter can get a USA Passport, which is a proof of citizenship, why didn't the USCIS just send her a Certificate of Naturalization?

I am still trying to get a hold of someone in the USCIS, that can give me a straight answer.

Searching online, apparently, there may be a residency requirement and an application process (N-600) for her to get her Certificate of Citizenship. Why is the Certificate of Naturalization not automatic if she can get a USA Passport. Is she a citizen or not?

Do I need to be concern, or should I be happy with the fact that she has a USA Passport and use that as her sole proof of Citizenship?

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pushbrk   13,116

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My adopted daughter (6 years old) entered the USA with a IR2 visa.

With the stamped visa, and other supporting documents (like adoption certificates), I was able to get her USA Passport a few days later.

After returning to the originating country (I work and live overseas) I got her Permanent Resident (Green) Card in the mail about a month later.

If my daughter can get a USA Passport, which is a proof of citizenship, why didn't the USCIS just send her a Certificate of Naturalization?

I am still trying to get a hold of someone in the USCIS, that can give me a straight answer.

Searching online, apparently, there may be a residency requirement and an application process (N-600) for her to get her Certificate of Citizenship. Why is the Certificate of Naturalization not automatic if she can get a USA Passport. Is she a citizen or not?

Do I need to be concern, or should I be happy with the fact that she has a USA Passport and use that as her sole proof of Citizenship?

Best to ask your own question in your own thread instead of hijacking this one. There's no need for the green card. You can just toss it. However, you have to pay a hefty fee to get a certificate of citizenship. Your daughter did not "Naturalize". The passport is all she'll ever need as evidence she is a US Citizen.

PS: The "reason" USCIS sent the green card is that the IR2 visa entry entitled her to it, whether she was eligible for US Citizenship or not.

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Citizenship granted 'this way' never gets a Certificate of Citizenship.

The Passport is enough. Yer Done.

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Ryan H   3,834

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Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to Bringing Family Members of US Citizens to America.

Still trying to figure out how the guy hijacked his own thread? Maybe posted in the wrong forum, but I don't see any hijacking going on here.

The poster of the first post originally posted it in a thread that was nearly a year old; I noticed the post and reported it to the mod team so it could be split from the the old thread. Any replies directed to the reported post would have been split with it.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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sara.....   371

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Dont forget to change her social security status.........after she became a citizen you need to go in and show proof to the social security office so that her number becomes citizen......my parents thought that it was automatic ......its not found that out when i started college as mine came up as resident alien and i had to prove with my passport that im a citizen of the USA

sara

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aaron2020   11,651

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My adopted daughter (6 years old) entered the USA with a IR2 visa.

With the stamped visa, and other supporting documents (like adoption certificates), I was able to get her USA Passport a few days later.

After returning to the originating country (I work and live overseas) I got her Permanent Resident (Green) Card in the mail about a month later.

If my daughter can get a USA Passport, which is a proof of citizenship, why didn't the USCIS just send her a Certificate of Naturalization?

She didn't naturalize. She derived US citizenship from her adopted US citizen father under the Child Citizenship Act. This is why USCIS did not send her a Certificate of Naturalization.

I am still trying to get a hold of someone in the USCIS, that can give me a straight answer.

Searching online, apparently, there may be a residency requirement and an application process (N-600) for her to get her Certificate of Citizenship. Why is the Certificate of Naturalization not automatic if she can get a USA Passport. Is she a citizen or not?

She is a US citizen.

You are confused between naturalizing and derivative citizenship. To naturalize; a person must be at least 18 years old, take a test, etc. To derive US citizenship, a person needs to have a US citizen parent or grandparent and meet certain conditions.

A Certificate of Citizenship is different from a Certificate of Naturalization. Your daughter didn't naturalize, so she doesn't get a Certificate of Naturalization. If you want her to have a Certificate of Citizenship, then you can spend the $600 to file for it.

Your adopted daughter derived US citizenship based on you and the Child Citizenship Act (CCA).

Under the CCA, there are four requirements for your daughter to AUTOMATICALLY derive US citizenship through you, her adopted US citizen parent; 1) she must be under 18, 2) she must have a US citizen parent, 3) she must live with the US citizen parent, and 4) she must have been admitted to the US as a legal permanent resident.

You can see that she must be admitted to the US as a LPR to derive US citizenship through you. So, the LPR status comes first, then she gets US citizenship. Her LPR status is why a green card was generated for her.

You can return the card to USCIS along with a copy of her US passport and explain that she derived US citizenship based on the CCA.

Do not toss the green card away.

Do I need to be concern, or should I be happy with the fact that she has a USA Passport and use that as her sole proof of Citizenship?

The US passport is sufficient to prove that she is US citizen. You do not need anything else. Keep a photocopy safe in case the original is lost.

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