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So frustrated with this CENOMAR business

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chrism07023   4

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Still waiting for my wife's visa, and I'm frustrated to say the least with this process. I am absolutely crystal clear sure that the US Embassy web page listing document requirements for a CR-1/IR-1 contains wording that is very confusing and misleading for people already married, and my attorney agrees.

This CENOMAR vs. CENMAR vs. Adivsory of Marriage vs. {fill in the blank ludicrous acronym} is like a bad Monty Python skit and would be so funny if it weren't so sad in terms of the toll it takes in lost time and rescheduling/planning updates. My wife and I were married in the Philippines, we have a Marriage License. To get that license we had to get a CENOMAR and a massive number of other documents. I had to take an oath at the embassy and got a notarized proof of singleness. My wife did the same. To get our CENOMAR originally, we had to file it at the NSO - the very same place where we were told to GO BACK TO to get it, again. But wait, no...that's not really what they want, or so I read, what they really want is the Advisory of Marriage, which they will defacto get as a result of the CENOMAR being an illogical document for a married couple to request). This process is absurd, and makes other bureaucratic hurdles encountered so far look like a sunday walk in the park.

At the very least, they should update their web page to put clear wording there, because right now it says:

"12. CERTIFICATE OF NO MARRIAGE RECORD (CENOMAR). If you have never contracted marriage, a CENOMAR (Singleness) issued by the National Statistics Office (NSO) and printed on NSO security paper should be submitted. You may call the NSO Information Center at (632) 737-1111 to inquire on securing a CENOMAR or visit their website at http://www.census.gov.ph. "

"If you have never contracted marraige"...well, we did contract marriage, which is why we didn't bring the CENOMAR. I plan to lodge a formal complaint with the right parties at the DoS and also with my local state elected officials. I guess that might sound hokey or dramatic to some, but I know for a fact that my friend had our local congressman help him with a similar matter not that long ago. Maybe it's a waste of time but someone needs to take the human element seriously here.

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Topic has been moved from the K-1 forum to the CR-1 forum as OP is petitioning for a spousal visa

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why is cenomar needed when all you need to present is the marriage certificate in security paper from nso? i don't understand :(

California Service Center

Consulate : Manila, Philippines

Marriage : 2011-11-26

USCIS

2011-12-14 : I-130 Sent

2011-12-16 : I-130 NOA1

2012-06-12 : NOA2 -i don't know why this came later than nvc case #

NVC

2012-06-07 : NVC Received , DS3032, IIN, BIN, AOS invoiced

2012-06-07 : Sent DS3032 email

2012-06-07 : Paid AOS fee

2012-06-08 : AOS shows PAID

2012-06-13 : Sent AOS package to NVC

2012-06-14 : DS3032 acceptance

2012-06-15 : IV fee invoiced, paid, in process status

2012-06-18 : IV fee shows PAID

2012-06-18 : AOS confirmed delivered via USPS in NVC

2012-06-18 : package IV mailed via USPS

2012-06-19 : NVC received package IV

2012-06-26 : AOS accepted

2012-07-02 : checklist for DS230 form (lacking info)

2012-07-03 : checklist mailed to NVC via USPS ( expected delivery 07-05)

2012-07-13 : case completed

2012-07-16 : medical done

2012-09-05 : interview schedule

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chrism07023   4

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why is cenomar needed when all you need to present is the marriage certificate in security paper from nso? i don't understand :(

can't locate where this thread was moved to so i'll answer here - we, like other married couples, were asked to return to the NSO to get a CENOMAR. Apparently, this doesn't make sense for married people, and the embassy knows that, and expects the NSO to turn around per our request and give us what the embassy actually needs, which is some kind of document indicating that we're married, I've heard it termed AOM (Advisory of Marriage), Certificate of Marriage and maybe one other thing. It's all very simple when you talk to someone who actually understands what is really going on but until you do, it's a real mess and very easily confusing.

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VirtualLee   12

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Asking why need CENOMAR (certificate of No Marriage) or CEMAR (Certificate of Marriage)?????

They will see here if how many times you've been married. if the record states that your

married to one person which is your husband/wife then good but if they see another record

beside from your previous then that's a BIG PROBLEM....in short more and more delays..

Our Time Line
---------------------------
CR-1/CR-2
---------------------------

USCIS Stage: (13 DAYS)
Apr 15, 2012 - Filed I-130 ($420 x2)
Apr 19, 2012 - NOA-1
May 2, 2012 - NOA-2

NVC STAGE: (56 DAYS)
05/21/12 - Case finally entered into NVC system
05/25/12 - Received case #, IIN, and BIN, gave e-mail addresses, sent optin e-mail
05/25/12 - Received info package and AOS bill e-mails from NVC
05/25/12 - AOS bill invoiced & paid ($88)
05/29/12 - AOS bill appears as PAID
06/01/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & PAID ($230 x2)
06/04/12 - IV Bill Shows PAID
06/15/12 - AOS & IV Packages sent
07/02/12 - RFE email received
07/06/12 - Sent NSO copy of MC and BC
07/16/12 - Case Complete (2nd Wedding Anniversary)
08/01/12 - Interview Date Assigned -->>>>(Sept.5, 2012@ 6:15am)


Medical/CFO / Consulate / POE:
08/29/2012-------- Medical Exam: PASSED
08/30/2012 ---------Advance CFO @SMEF-COW
09/05/2012-------- Interview: VISA APPROVED!!!!
09/11/2012 ------- VISA RECEIVED!
10/02/2012 -------- POE = Honolulu, Hawaii
Welcome to Hawaii

10/18/2012 - received 10yr. GC & SSN#

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VirtualLee   12

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Asking why need CENOMAR (certificate of No Marriage) or CEMAR (Certificate of Marriage)?????

They will see here if how many times you've been married. if the record states that your

married to one person which is your present husband/wife then good but if they see another record

beside from your present marriage then that's a BIG PROBLEM....in short More Delays.

Our Time Line
---------------------------
CR-1/CR-2
---------------------------

USCIS Stage: (13 DAYS)
Apr 15, 2012 - Filed I-130 ($420 x2)
Apr 19, 2012 - NOA-1
May 2, 2012 - NOA-2

NVC STAGE: (56 DAYS)
05/21/12 - Case finally entered into NVC system
05/25/12 - Received case #, IIN, and BIN, gave e-mail addresses, sent optin e-mail
05/25/12 - Received info package and AOS bill e-mails from NVC
05/25/12 - AOS bill invoiced & paid ($88)
05/29/12 - AOS bill appears as PAID
06/01/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & PAID ($230 x2)
06/04/12 - IV Bill Shows PAID
06/15/12 - AOS & IV Packages sent
07/02/12 - RFE email received
07/06/12 - Sent NSO copy of MC and BC
07/16/12 - Case Complete (2nd Wedding Anniversary)
08/01/12 - Interview Date Assigned -->>>>(Sept.5, 2012@ 6:15am)


Medical/CFO / Consulate / POE:
08/29/2012-------- Medical Exam: PASSED
08/30/2012 ---------Advance CFO @SMEF-COW
09/05/2012-------- Interview: VISA APPROVED!!!!
09/11/2012 ------- VISA RECEIVED!
10/02/2012 -------- POE = Honolulu, Hawaii
Welcome to Hawaii

10/18/2012 - received 10yr. GC & SSN#

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