How do we establish dual citizenship?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Also:

SEC. 4. Section 9 of the Foreign Investments Act of 1991 is hereby amended to read as follows:

“SEC. 9. Investment rights of former natural-born Filipinos. – For purposes of this Act, former natural-born citizens of the Philippines shall have the same investment rights of Philippine citizens in Cooperatives under Republic Act No. 6938, Rural Banks under Republic Act No. 7353, Thrift Banks and Private Development Banks under Republic Act No. 7906, and Financing Companies under Republic Act No. 5980. These rights shall not extend to activities reserved by the Constitution including [1] the exercise of profession; [2] in defense-related activities under Section 8 (b) hereof, unless specifically authorized by the Secretary of National Defense; and [3] activities covered by Republic Act No. 1180 [Retail Trade Act], Republic Act No. 5487 [security Agency Act], Republic Act No. 7076 [small Scale Mining Act], Republic Act No. 3018, as amended [Rice and Corn Industry Act], and P.D. 449 [Cockpits Operation and Management]“.

SEC. 5. The Foreign Investments Act is further amended by inserting a new section designated as Section 10 to read as follows:

“SEC. 10. Other rights of natural-born citizen pursuant to the provisions of Article XII, Section 8 of the Constitution. – Any natural-born citizen who has lost his Philippine citizenship and who has the legal capacity to enter into a contract under Philippine Laws may be a transferee of a private land up to a maximum area of five thousand [5,000] square meters in the case of urban land or three [3] hectares in the case of rural land to be used by him for business or other purposes. In the case of married couples, one of them may avail of the privilege herein granted: Provided, That If both shall avail of the same, the total area acquired shall not exceed the maximum herein fixed.

“In case the transferee already owns urban or rural land for business or other purposes, he shall be entitled to be a transferee of additional urban or rural land for business or other purposes which when added to those already owned by him shall not exceed the maximum areas herein authorized.

“A transferee under this Act may acquire not more than two [2] lots which should be situated in different municipalities or cities anywhere in the Philippines: Provided, That the total land area thereof shall not exceed five thousand [5,000] square meters in the case of urban land or three [3] hectares in the case of rural land for use by him for business or other purposes. A transferee who has already acquired urban land shall be disqualified form acquiring rural land and vice versa.”

http://www.bcphilippineslawyers.com/republic-act-no-8179/

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[RandR333 9]

I woke up to lots of good information. Thanks for all the help!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Wrong. Becoming a USC requires an oath to relinquish all previous allegiances to foreign governments.

No not wrong but I didn't fully explain. You're right, the US doesn't recognise other citizenships but it doesn't make you LOSE your other citizenships either, that is dependant on your home country. The US also doesn't take your USC simply because you get another countries citizenship. So I'm right that the US doesn't require you to do anything (I did say "at least in the US") to say "hey I'm dual/multi" because they don't care about it or "recognise" the other passports.

I wasn't aware the Philippines makes you re-acquire their citizenship... I can't say I've read that before so now I know BUT I did specify "at least in the US" so really I wasn't actually wrong. Many other countries (Australia and UK for example) don't need you to do anything to keep your home countries citizenship.

Edited April 1, 2012 by Vanessa&Tony

[Hank_ 9,174]

Yes, some very good information.

~ thanks

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

No not wrong but I didn't fully explain. You're right, the US doesn't recognise other citizenships but it doesn't make you LOSE your other citizenships either, that is dependant on your home country. The US also doesn't take your USC simply because you get another countries citizenship. So I'm right that the US doesn't require you to do anything (I did say "at least in the US") to say "hey I'm dual/multi" because they don't care about it or "recognise" the other passports.

I wasn't aware the Philippines makes you re-acquire their citizenship... I can't say I've read that before so now I know BUT I did specify "at least in the US" so really I wasn't actually wrong. Many other countries (Australia and UK for example) don't need you to do anything to keep your home countries citizenship.

Wrong again. You should probably avoid the regionals so as not to cause anymore confusion.

The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

[Hank_ 9,174]

Ya... I try not to go to other regional forums to make comments as there are too many differences between countries, some times I end up in a regional forum by following a hot topic lead and not notice where I am.

.... sort of like having one too many and then waking the next day confused...

[JoBri 548]

Forms go out of date. Have to keep those dates in mind all the time because of changes. My wife has her 10 year permanent resident card, but not going to download the N-400 until June. Way back when I was trying to get her over here I busied myself by filling out forms early, and had to redo them because of expiration dates, hehe. (Darn VSC took so long).

Nothing wrong with thinking about it now. Saves a LOT of stress later Download the N-400 form and save it to your computer (I have). Remember to update it any time she leaves the country because that's easy to forget (Don't know about you but I don't remember EXACT visit dates after a while )

Also if applying on the 3 year/marriage they will want relationship evidence (like with ROC if applicable). So again look at the forms and instructions and get a box and start putting relationship stuff aside. I'm doing ROC at the moment and thought I had saved some bills from online but it turns out I didn't and Verizon only keeps them for a year and my gas/elec only have the last 3 months or so... So i wish I'd saved them every month but oh well!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Forms go out of date. Have to keep those dates in mind all the time because of changes. My wife has her 10 year permanent resident card, but not going to download the N-400 until June. Way back when I was trying to get her over here I busied myself by filling out forms early, and had to redo them because of expiration dates, hehe. (Darn VSC took so long).

Oh of course they do. I'm just suggesting it as a way of keeping track of dates. My ROC stuff had to be redone as well but all the info was there in the form I'd already typed so no biggie

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Wrong again. You should probably avoid the regionals so as not to cause anymore confusion.

No I'm not wrong but you are right... I forget that some people don't have a strong grasp of the English language and certain words may confuse. I'm sorry I confused you.

The US recognises dual exists but does NOT see a dual USC as ANYTHING other than a USC (thus does not "recognise" a dual as a dual, simply as an American). You are a USC and nothing else. You can have other passports, they don't care, they know it exists but to the US you are simply American, that is all. You don't register your other passport with them or anything like that because you are simply an American.

I hope that helps clear your confusion.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

No I'm not wrong but you are right... I forget that some people don't have a strong grasp of the English language and certain words may confuse. I'm sorry I confused you.

The US recognises dual exists but does NOT see a dual USC as ANYTHING other than a USC (thus does not "recognise" a dual as a dual, simply as an American). You are a USC and nothing else. You can have other passports, they don't care, they know it exists but to the US you are simply American, that is all. You don't register your other passport with them or anything like that because you are simply an American.

I hope that helps clear your confusion.

You don't know how to bow out gracefully, do you? I will be sure to write the DOS, and tell them how "confused" they are according to a recent immigrant.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I will be sure to write the DOS, and tell them how "confused" they are according to a recent immigrant.

I'm sorry you still don't understand but there's only so many ways to explain it. I'm not saying DOS is "confused" I'm saying YOU are confused and don't seem to understand why. I've tried to explain it but obviously I'm meeting with a brick wall. Maybe do some searches of other VJ threads that also explain it using the word "recognise" (but this seems to be your hang-up so maybe that's not any good). Google will work as well hopefully.

Again, to the US you are simply American, that is all. You can have other passports but to the US you are only American so they don't give two hoots about your other passports (or lack thereof). That's as plain as I can put it.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I'm sorry you still don't understand but there's only so many ways to explain it. I'm not saying DOS is "confused" I'm saying YOU are confused and don't seem to understand why. I've tried to explain it but obviously I'm meeting with a brick wall. Maybe do some searches of other VJ threads that also explain it using the word "recognise" (but this seems to be your hang-up so maybe that's not any good). Google will work as well hopefully.

Again, to the US you are simply American, that is all. You can have other passports but to the US you are only American so they don't give two hoots about your other passports (or lack thereof). That's as plain as I can put it.

Yes. You are so right. You are always right. So sorry I ever doubted your superior grasp of all things.