Court Rules Teachers Can Have Sex With Of-Age Students

[Danno 1,228]

She is 18 years old. 30 years? Jail? A moron would think that was a great idea.

On that we can agree. I would imagine a first time offender of forcible rape would not get half that in time served.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

These aren't just two random consenting adults.

that seems to be point you don't see.

These are state employees put in positions of trust to teach and safeguard students which are mandated to be there by law.

Should prison guards also get a free pass when they get caught doing the inmates?

How about the head of the police dept doing the junior deputies?

Is it okay for a Commanding officer to be banging the new privates assigned to his unit?

It would seem your experience in working in institutional or organizational settings is limited (which is fine), in the real world you can't have this stuff go on openly.

What the punishment would be, I don't know but there has to be some restraint.

You are, as usual, mistaking ethics for LAWS. The law states an age at which the elected legislators of that state consider to be the age of consent and specify penalties that involve a possible loss of one's freedom if you violate that law.

Ethics can be applied by employers to reglate conduct of their employees and give them administrative punishment if they violate the policy. I have no problem with that but it needs to be kept out of the LAW.

There is no need for government involvement in the sexual conduct of consenting adults. Period.

[james&olya 1,121]

Morality and legality have a lot of over-lap but it is important never to confuse the two. Questions of reproductive choice, control of a woman's body, contraception, certain sexual practices between consenting adults, etc. may be morally proscribed by some religions and groups of individuals but unless they involve violations of another person's rights there is no basis for extending anybodies moral proscriptions on behavior to legal penalties! This seems a simple and basic concept, yet to people like Santorum they just don't seem to get it that they are not entitled to be anyone else's moral police!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

In case you thought they only wanted the government to control behavior between consenting same sex adults. Oh yeah, and the omnipresent animals, polygamy, etc. Only it turns out now they want to control sex between adults of certain occupational relationships. Teacher/student, boss/employee, etc. where does it end? Given that these people mostly hate the idea of sexual intimacy and have some sort of hangups and fears about their bodies, I would say the field is pretty open.

Thats why I say "Consenting adults" is good enough for me.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

These aren't just two random consenting adults.

that seems to be point you don't see.

These are state employees put in positions of trust to teach and safeguard students which are mandated to be there by law.

Should prison guards also get a free pass when they get caught doing the inmates?

How about the head of the police dept doing the junior deputies?

Is it okay for a Commanding officer to be banging the new privates assigned to his unit?

It would seem your experience in working in institutional or organizational settings is limited (which is fine), in the real world you can't have this stuff go on openly.

What the punishment would be, I don't know but there has to be some restraint.

Are any of those scenario's crimes in and of themselves?

[sandinista! 1,816]

Are any of those scenario's crimes in and of themselves?

There are institutional sexual assault and sexual abuse laws.

[Danno 1,228]

There are institutional sexual assault and sexual abuse laws.

And the military certainly has Laws regarding such behavior.

I have no way to know but the Prison guard that has relations w/ an inmate would (I bet) have charges for this type of activity.

So basically what we have here is the libertarian reactionary reflex that longs to do things differently.

[james&olya 1,121]

And the military certainly has Laws regarding such behavior.

I have no way to know but the Prison guard that has relations w/ an inmate would (I bet) have charges for this type of activity.

So basically what we have here is the libertarian reactionary reflex that longs to do things differently.

Logic fail! Again! The laws concerning prison guards are based on other legal principles. It is also not allowed to supply said prisoners with contraband. I would not be arrested for giving you a knife or a hacksaw unless you were an inmate. Having relations with a prisoner is a very serious violation of the necessary boundaries that must exist LEGALLY between the guards and the ones incarcerated. The morality is NOT the issue here, rather the safety of the entire system for guards, prisoners, and the general population!