Fox News Readers: Trayvon Martin A ‘Little Thug Ghetto Monkey.’

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That's pure liberal fantasy land. In the entire history of mankind -- no such uptopia has ever existed.

That "utopia" does indeed exist. I've lived in one of those "liberal fantasy lands" where people do not get to accost another trying to provoke a response which they then use to justify killing that person. In those liberal fantasy lands, people do have a right to defend themselves but they don't have a right to seek confrontations to construct a justification for cold blooded murder. And guess what happens in those liberal fantasy lands - yes, they have far less crime and bloodshed going on than this here society which is pushed back into neanderthal territory.

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This kinder, gentler utopia?

Germans used to think that school violence was a distinctly American phenomenen. Now, after a massacre in a small town that took 15 lives, commentators ponder what could be done to prevent the next tragedy.

German Women Often Victims of Domestic Violence

Does Germany Have a Problem With Gay Hate Crime?

Study finds right-wing violence in Germany on the rise

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Fun to watch one black person to get all the attention needed but if were white would be ignored.

[mari&Ryan 93]

That "utopia" does indeed exist. I've lived in one of those "liberal fantasy lands" where people do not get to accost another trying to provoke a response which they then use to justify killing that person. In those liberal fantasy lands, people do have a right to defend themselves but they don't have a right to seek confrontations to construct a justification for cold blooded murder. And guess what happens in those liberal fantasy lands - yes, they have far less crime and bloodshed going on than this here society which is pushed back into neanderthal territory.

Have you ever heard or read about a country called Venezuela? Well that is the my country of birth, that was the land where i was raised and live for over 30 years before moving here. Well, That country happens to have a President that is "Progressivist" "Liberal" "Socialist" "Anti Imperialist" and all that stupid rhetoric. He has been president more than 13 years now. You might then think that Venezuela after all this years of liberalism, socialisms etc is a kind of "utopia land" Hell no!. So, if you ever think to visit down there and you make it back safe and alive feel yourself a lucky one.

Venezuela doesn't have Death penalty. The max penalty for any murder even the most horrifying one is 30 years. No "stand your ground law" either over there.

Check this out:

Venezuela Murders Could Hit 19,000 in 2011

According to an NGO that tracks violence in Venezuela, the country is on track to register 60 homicides for every 100,000 inhabitants in 2011, or more than 19,000 homicides.

This puts Venezuela among the most violent countries in the hemisphere, far above countries better known for their struggle against crime, like Colombia (38 per 100,000) and Mexico (about 15).

After Venezuela's government stopped making homicide statistics public in 2005, a Caracas-based NGO, the Venezuelan Observatory of Violence (OVW) began releasing their own statistics based on police files. The NGO's estimate for the 2010 per capita homicide rate is 57 per 100,000. This is higher than the official estimate released by the government earlier this year: 48.

According to the observatory, the murder rate in Venezuela has more than quadrupled since 1999, when the country officially registered 4,550 homicides.

Another survey published by the NGO, carried out in 1,000 households across the country, says that 66 percent of Venezuelans who've been a victim of violent crime chose not to report it. This is indicative of the lack of public trust in Venezuela's institutions: police are believed to be responsible for up to 20 percent of all crimes.

Perhaps more worrying than Venezuela's rising murder rates is evidence of increased collusion between the government and public officials linked to organized crime. U.S. authorities have named the current defense minister, General Henry Rangel Silva, as a drug trafficker who worked with Colombian rebel group the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia - FARC).

More:

Crime in Venezuela

CRIME: Venezuela and its capital, Caracas, are both reported to have among the highest per capita murder rates in the world. In Caracas alone, 2,900 murders were reportedly committed between January and November 2011. As noted above, the vast majority ofmurders and other violent crimes go unsolved. Armed criminal gangs often operate with impunity throughout the urban areas. The poor neighborhoods that cover the hills around Caracas are extremely dangerous. These areas are seldom patrolled by police and should be avoided. Armed robberies are common in urban and tourist areas throughout Venezuela, even areas presumed safe and visited by tourists. Crimes committed against travelers are usually money-oriented crimes, such as theft and armed robbery. Incidents occur during daylight hours as well as at night. Many criminals are armed with guns or knives and will use force...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

This kinder, gentler utopia?

Germans used to think that school violence was a distinctly American phenomenen. Now, after a massacre in a small town that took 15 lives, commentators ponder what could be done to prevent the next tragedy.

German Women Often Victims of Domestic Violence

Does Germany Have a Problem With Gay Hate Crime?

Study finds right-wing violence in Germany on the rise

Yes. You're more than 5 times more likely to become a victim of homicide in the US compared to Germany. Does Germany have a problem with violent, brain dead right wing extremists? Yes, they do. Do these numbnuts cause anywhere near the damage that's caused by brain dead neanderthals around these parts? Not even close.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Have you ever heard or read about a country called Venezuela? Well that is the my country of birth, that was the land where i was raised and live for over 30 years before moving here. Well, That country happens to have a President that is "Progressivist" "Liberal" "Socialist" "Anti Imperialist" and all that stupid rhetoric. He has been president more than 13 years now. You might then think that Venezuela after all this years of liberalism, socialisms etc is a kind of "utopia land" Hell no!. So, if you ever think to visit down there and you make it back safe and alive feel yourself a lucky one.

Chavez a progressive? A liberal?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Chavez a progressive? A liberal?

http://progressive.org/mag_intv0706

http://www.progressive.org/mag_galeano0408

[mari&Ryan 93]

Chavez a progressive? A liberal?

Well, tell that to Jimmy Carter, Sean Penn, etc...

Interesting as you don't have anything to comment about those facts i mentioned above but instead you focus in commenting of that A** Hole that is Hugo Chavez. I hope we can get rid of him this year for good one way or other.

Dod you have something to comment about this?

Venezuela doesn't have Death penalty. The max penalty for any murder even the most horrifying one is 30 years. No "stand your ground law" either over there.

But still...

Venezuela Murders Could Hit 19,000 in 2011

According to an NGO that tracks violence in Venezuela, the country is on track to register 60 homicides for every 100,000 inhabitants in 2011, or more than 19,000 homicides.

This puts Venezuela among the most violent countries in the hemisphere, far above countries better known for their struggle against crime, like Colombia (38 per 100,000) and Mexico (about 15).

After Venezuela's government stopped making homicide statistics public in 2005, a Caracas-based NGO, the Venezuelan Observatory of Violence (OVW) began releasing their own statistics based on police files. The NGO's estimate for the 2010 per capita homicide rate is 57 per 100,000. This is higher than the official estimate released by the government earlier this year: 48.

According to the observatory, the murder rate in Venezuela has more than quadrupled since 1999, when the country officially registered 4,550 homicides.

Another survey published by the NGO, carried out in 1,000 households across the country, says that 66 percent of Venezuelans who've been a victim of violent crime chose not to report it. This is indicative of the lack of public trust in Venezuela's institutions: police are believed to be responsible for up to 20 percent of all crimes.

Perhaps more worrying than Venezuela's rising murder rates is evidence of increased collusion between the government and public officials linked to organized crime. U.S. authorities have named the current defense minister, General Henry Rangel Silva, as a drug trafficker who worked with Colombian rebel group the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia - FARC).

More:

Crime in Venezuela

CRIME: Venezuela and its capital, Caracas, are both reported to have among the highest per capita murder rates in the world. In Caracas alone, 2,900 murders were reportedly committed between January and November 2011. As noted above, the vast majority ofmurders and other violent crimes go unsolved. Armed criminal gangs often operate with impunity throughout the urban areas. The poor neighborhoods that cover the hills around Caracas are extremely dangerous. These areas are seldom patrolled by police and should be avoided. Armed robberies are common in urban and tourist areas throughout Venezuela, even areas presumed safe and visited by tourists. Crimes committed against travelers are usually money-oriented crimes, such as theft and armed robbery. Incidents occur during daylight hours as well as at night. Many criminals are armed with guns or knives and will use force...

Edited March 29, 2012 by mari&Ryan

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

http://progressive.org/mag_intv0706

http://www.progressive.org/mag_galeano0408

Honecker and Co. liked to think of themselves as progressives and liberals, too. You can probably find some misguided publications that will be happy to afford them these titles. All that said, I can tell you that they were not progressives or liberals. Neither is Chavez. Call them autocrats call them totalitarians. But not progressives.

Well, tell that to Jimmy Carter, Sean Penn, etc...

Why should I? If they mistake Chavez as a progressive, then that's something they have to work out for themselves. Doesn't involve me. I see Chavez for the dictator he is.

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Yes. You're more than 5 times more likely to become a victim of homicide in the US compared to Germany. Does Germany have a problem with violent, brain dead right wing extremists? Yes, they do. Do these numbnuts cause anywhere near the damage that's caused by brain dead neanderthals around these parts? Not even close.

Just getting a feel for what "Utopia" might look like....

[slim 1,525]

I'm actually rolling on the floor that someone would use Germany as an example of a "great society" where everyone is safe and doesn't have to worry about being killed.

And, uh, how would Trayvon do over there in the fatherland?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'm actually rolling on the floor that someone would use Germany as an example of a "great society" where everyone is safe and doesn't have to worry about being killed.

Why is that funny? The stats are faily clear. There are 0.8 homicides per 1MM in Germany and 4.8 pr 1MM here in the US. That would clearly suggest a greater risk of being killed here than there. A far greater risk.

And, uh, how would Trayvon do over there in the fatherland?

Just fine. He'd very likely still be above ground there. Not sure what you're trying to get at. That black people can't walk the streets safely in Germany? Ask my wife's dad. He's safely walked the streets there for well over 30 years and I think he'll die of old age when the time comes rather than prematurely from a bullet shot into his chest by some cop wanna be.

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George Zimmerman's crumbling story

The SPD video that ABC News aired last night raised serious doubts about Zimmerman's account of a life-and-death struggle. Then, the mortician who prepared Trayvon's body for burial told MSNBC last night that the 17-year-old's body didn't show any signs of violence to support Zimmerman's account. Now, the work of the lead detective on the Zimmerman case looms large. Justice might be blind, but she's not dumb. And Investigator Chris Serino set out to prove it.

Serino didn't believe Zimmerman's version of events and recommended a manslaughter charge. But he was overruled. And according to a report from Joy-Ann Reid of the Grio yesterday, the decision came from atop the law enforcement food chain: the state attorney.

A source with knowledge of the investigation into the shooting of Trayvon Martin tells the Grio that it was then Sanford police chief Bill Lee, along with Capt. Robert O'Connor, the investigations supervisor, who made the decision to release George Zimmerman on the night of February 26th, after consulting with State Attorney Norman Wolfinger — in person.

Wolfinger told Serino that he didn't think there was enough evidence to charge Zimmerman. According to ABC News, Serino then filed an affidavit the night of Feb. 26 stating he didn't believe Zimmerman. And we are now finding out that Serino then set out to bring the neighborhood watch volunteer to justice.

In an interview with the Rev. Al Sharpton and later with Lawrence O'Donnell, Cheryl Brown, the mother of a 13-year-old eyewitness said that Serino told her that he didn't believe Zimmerman's self-defense claim.

[serino] told me that he and the other officer with him felt that it was not self-defense and that they needed to prove it wasn't self-defense. And he said that I needed to read between the line because there was some stereotyping going on.... I took it to mean that he felt that George Zimmerman committed this crime based on whether it's stereotyping or racial profiling or whatever you want to call it. But those were his words. Stereotyping.

Serino was the one who recounted Zimmerman's version of events for Tracy Martin, Trayvon's father. Martin told us in a meeting yesterday at The Post that he asked Serino if a background check was done on Zimmerman. Yes, one was, he was told, and he was "squeaky clean." But Martin had another question. "By Zimmerman being 'squeaky clean,' " he wanted to know, "did that give him the right to shoot and kill my son?" What Martin said Serino said next fits an emerging pattern. "[H]e said it certainly didn't. That he was going to do everything that he could do to catch this guy in a lie."

Despite being overruled by superiors, Serino, it appears, never gave up on trying to have Zimmerman arrested. He filed that affidavit hours before delivering the tragic news to Martin and said what he would try to do. And it wasn't until March 5 that he would pay the 13-year-old and his mother a visit. Serino felt he was onto something. And now we all know why with greater clarity than we did a week ago.

http://www.washingto...NvAjS_blog.html

[mari&Ryan 93]

Why should I? If they mistake Chavez as a progressive, then that's something they have to work out for themselves. Doesn't involve me. I see Chavez for the dictator he is.

Ok, I see. You just refused to comment on the heart of my arguments which were support with facts. You kept focussing in that A** H**e of Chavez. Fine, it's you prerogative to do that. In Venezuela there is name for people that do that, but oopps I can't say that here.

Summarizing :

Venezuela laws:

- No Death Penalty.

- No Stand your ground law

- The Max penalty is 30 years.

- No life without parole.

- Citizens do not have the right to bear arms.

But still, Venezuela has one of the highest rate of homicide/murder per capite in the planet.

Have a great day!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Summarizing :

Venezuela laws:

- No Death Penalty.

- No Stand your ground law

- The Max penalty is 30 years.

- No life without parole.

- Citizens do not have the right to bear arms.

But still, Venezuela has one of the highest rate of homicide/murder per capite in the planet.

And that proves what, exactly? I can list literally dozens of countries that meet the above and have far lower homicide rates than the US.