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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Peru
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I really haven't seen a clear cut answer to this question floating around my mind, so here goes:

After my wife does her initial POE, receives her GC & SSN, is there any restrictions or limits on her to travel outside of the US? In other words, does she HAVE to remain in the US for any specific period of time before leaving again?

Keep in mind we will be residing in the US and maintaining a residence there but we vacation (4 months a year) and like to go everywhere & anywhere.

I appreciate any helpful comments.

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12/31/10 - Met my future wife, Dr. Sara
3/1/11 - Approved for B2 Tourist Visa (1 year)
6/1/11 - 3 weeks’ vacation together in USA
9/10/11 - 4 weeks’ vacation together in USA
12/4/11 - 4 weeks’ vacation together in USA
12/28/11 - Married in USA
1/23/12 - Renewed B2 Visa (10 year)

USCIS – Lima Peru - DCF
2/2/12 - Submitted I-130 Petition for Alien Relative (Dr. Sara) via DCF – Lima Peru
3/5/12 - Received "Packet 3 & Packet 4"
3/16/12 - Medical examination - Completed!!!!!!!
3/29/12 - Visa Interview - APPROVED!!! 56 Freakin' Days!!!!!
4/3/12 - Picked up Passport & Visa!!!
4/21/12 - POE at Atlanta. No problems or issues!!!!

5/15/12 - Dr. Sara received her Green Card in the mail
5/21/12 - Dr. Sara got her Social Security Card in the mail
6/21/12 - Dr. Sara got her Michigan Drivers License (watch out!)

4/21/13 - Dr. Sara 1st year anniversary in the USA!

Removal of Conditions

1/30/14 - Submitted I-751 Removal Of Conditions

2/18/14 - NOA I-797, I-751 Receipt Notice - Extended Conditional Residence 1 Year :-)

3/19/14 - Biometrics appointment

12/16/14 - 10 year Permanent Resident Green Card approved and received!!

Citizenship

5/4/15 - Submitted N-400 Application for Citizenship

5/6/15 - NOA for Priority Date of May 06, 2015

5/20/15 - Received NOA for Biometrics appointment

6/1/15 - Biometrics appointment

12/9/15 - Naturalization Interview - Passed!

12/15/15 - Citizenship Ceremony & Oath

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http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3f443a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=3f443a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Staying outside the USA 6 months or longer can cause problems with re-entry. CBP has sole discretion as to if they feel you are not maintaining residency and can take your green card from you at the border.

Staying outside the USA longer than 6 months resets the clock for US citizenship ability.

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Office%20of%20Citizenship/Citizenship%20Resource%20Center%20Site/Publications/PDFs/G-1151.pdf

Travel limits are regarded as part of maintaining permanent residency. Need to look up / research maintaining residency instead of looking at it as "can I travel".

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Peru
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http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=3f443a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=3f443a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Staying outside the USA 6 months or longer can cause problems with re-entry. CBP has sole discretion as to if they feel you are not maintaining residency and can take your green card from you at the border.

Staying outside the USA longer than 6 months resets the clock for US citizenship ability.

http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Office%20of%20Citizenship/Citizenship%20Resource%20Center%20Site/Publications/PDFs/G-1151.pdf

Travel limits are regarded as part of maintaining permanent residency. Need to look up / research maintaining residency instead of looking at it as "can I travel".

Yes I know what you are saying. We/she will not be gone longer than 6 months. I'm talking about vacations (IE: 3 weeks, 1 month, etc) and if there is anything to worry about.

Our Journey
12/31/10 - Met my future wife, Dr. Sara
3/1/11 - Approved for B2 Tourist Visa (1 year)
6/1/11 - 3 weeks’ vacation together in USA
9/10/11 - 4 weeks’ vacation together in USA
12/4/11 - 4 weeks’ vacation together in USA
12/28/11 - Married in USA
1/23/12 - Renewed B2 Visa (10 year)

USCIS – Lima Peru - DCF
2/2/12 - Submitted I-130 Petition for Alien Relative (Dr. Sara) via DCF – Lima Peru
3/5/12 - Received "Packet 3 & Packet 4"
3/16/12 - Medical examination - Completed!!!!!!!
3/29/12 - Visa Interview - APPROVED!!! 56 Freakin' Days!!!!!
4/3/12 - Picked up Passport & Visa!!!
4/21/12 - POE at Atlanta. No problems or issues!!!!

5/15/12 - Dr. Sara received her Green Card in the mail
5/21/12 - Dr. Sara got her Social Security Card in the mail
6/21/12 - Dr. Sara got her Michigan Drivers License (watch out!)

4/21/13 - Dr. Sara 1st year anniversary in the USA!

Removal of Conditions

1/30/14 - Submitted I-751 Removal Of Conditions

2/18/14 - NOA I-797, I-751 Receipt Notice - Extended Conditional Residence 1 Year :-)

3/19/14 - Biometrics appointment

12/16/14 - 10 year Permanent Resident Green Card approved and received!!

Citizenship

5/4/15 - Submitted N-400 Application for Citizenship

5/6/15 - NOA for Priority Date of May 06, 2015

5/20/15 - Received NOA for Biometrics appointment

6/1/15 - Biometrics appointment

12/9/15 - Naturalization Interview - Passed!

12/15/15 - Citizenship Ceremony & Oath

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She can leave the US on the day of her POE using the temp green card in her passport.

As those have already said, if she is gone less than six months then the border officer will not question her status upon her return to the US. We know this ourselves as we did just that...departed the US on the same day as our POE and have returned twice in the five weeks we have had our CR-1. We come and go as we please and haven't had any problems. You'll be fine.

If you're gone more than six months but less than 12 months, you raise the risk of scrutiny by the arriving officer. It begins to become a gamble at this point. Many people have not had a problem when gone this long, some have been questioned by allowed to continue.

It is when you're gone longer than 12 months that it begins to become a problem. You are supposed to apply for Advance Parole prior to departure if you know ahead of time you need to be gone for more than 12 months.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Peru
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She can leave the US on the day of her POE using the temp green card in her passport.

As those have already said, if she is gone less than six months then the border officer will not question her status upon her return to the US. We know this ourselves as we did just that...departed the US on the same day as our POE and have returned twice in the five weeks we have had our CR-1. We come and go as we please and haven't had any problems. You'll be fine.

If you're gone more than six months but less than 12 months, you raise the risk of scrutiny by the arriving officer. It begins to become a gamble at this point. Many people have not had a problem when gone this long, some have been questioned by allowed to continue.

It is when you're gone longer than 12 months that it begins to become a problem. You are supposed to apply for Advance Parole prior to departure if you know ahead of time you need to be gone for more than 12 months.

Thanks for your answer. This brings up the next question. Is the magical six months consecutive or accumulative for a one year period?

Our Journey
12/31/10 - Met my future wife, Dr. Sara
3/1/11 - Approved for B2 Tourist Visa (1 year)
6/1/11 - 3 weeks’ vacation together in USA
9/10/11 - 4 weeks’ vacation together in USA
12/4/11 - 4 weeks’ vacation together in USA
12/28/11 - Married in USA
1/23/12 - Renewed B2 Visa (10 year)

USCIS – Lima Peru - DCF
2/2/12 - Submitted I-130 Petition for Alien Relative (Dr. Sara) via DCF – Lima Peru
3/5/12 - Received "Packet 3 & Packet 4"
3/16/12 - Medical examination - Completed!!!!!!!
3/29/12 - Visa Interview - APPROVED!!! 56 Freakin' Days!!!!!
4/3/12 - Picked up Passport & Visa!!!
4/21/12 - POE at Atlanta. No problems or issues!!!!

5/15/12 - Dr. Sara received her Green Card in the mail
5/21/12 - Dr. Sara got her Social Security Card in the mail
6/21/12 - Dr. Sara got her Michigan Drivers License (watch out!)

4/21/13 - Dr. Sara 1st year anniversary in the USA!

Removal of Conditions

1/30/14 - Submitted I-751 Removal Of Conditions

2/18/14 - NOA I-797, I-751 Receipt Notice - Extended Conditional Residence 1 Year :-)

3/19/14 - Biometrics appointment

12/16/14 - 10 year Permanent Resident Green Card approved and received!!

Citizenship

5/4/15 - Submitted N-400 Application for Citizenship

5/6/15 - NOA for Priority Date of May 06, 2015

5/20/15 - Received NOA for Biometrics appointment

6/1/15 - Biometrics appointment

12/9/15 - Naturalization Interview - Passed!

12/15/15 - Citizenship Ceremony & Oath

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On 3/20/2012 at 11:00 AM, sctdixon said:

Thanks for your answer. This brings up the next question. Is the magical six months consecutive or accumulative for a one year period?

Did you ever find out if this was consecutive or accumulative?  I'm curious, myself.  My Wife and I intend to travel back and forth from USA to Philippines every couple of months.  I'm curious as to what you found out.  Thanks!

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2 minutes ago, ThomasLyon said:

Did you ever find out if this was consecutive or accumulative?  I'm curious, myself.  My Wife and I intend to travel back and forth from USA to Philippines every couple of months.  I'm curious as to what you found out.  Thanks!

It is consecutive.  However,  a short step back into the USA may not reset the clock.

YMMV

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On 3/19/2012 at 12:43 PM, sctdixon said:

Yes I know what you are saying. We/she will not be gone longer than 6 months. I'm talking about vacations (IE: 3 weeks, 1 month, etc) and if there is anything to worry about.

Nothing to worry about but be aware that each night out of the US adds a day to when she will qualify to Naturalize.  If she's gone 4 months a year, it's going to take 4 years and four months to qualify instead of 3 years.  

 

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On 4/13/2019 at 2:24 AM, pushbrk said:

Nothing to worry about but be aware that each night out of the US adds a day to when she will qualify to Naturalize.  If she's gone 4 months a year, it's going to take 4 years and four months to qualify instead of 3 years.  

 

That is interesting - I had assumed and thought I read somewhere that one had to stay in the US for the majority of the time before applying for naturalization. I didn't know the days outside the US would be tagged on to the 3 or respectively 5 years. Meaning, I am working internationally (and being taxed in the US on my international income): All the days on business travel count against me? I am already trying to minimise travel as is but I cannot eliminate it all together.

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On 4/12/2019 at 7:24 PM, pushbrk said:

Nothing to worry about but be aware that each night out of the US adds a day to when she will qualify to Naturalize.  If she's gone 4 months a year, it's going to take 4 years and four months to qualify instead of 3 years.  

 

Can you help me understand what you’re saying here ? I’ve read the USCIS information on eligibility and don’t get the sense that absences under 12 months add extra time to the 3 years. I see the continued residence of 3 years.. which is not interrupted by trips of less than 12 months , and the physical presence of 18 months in the previous 3 years ... but I can’t seem to see the requirement  you are referring to. 

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartG-Chapter3.html

 

thx !! 

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20 minutes ago, Lil bear said:

Can you help me understand what you’re saying here ? I’ve read the USCIS information on eligibility and don’t get the sense that absences under 12 months add extra time to the 3 years. I see the continued residence of 3 years.. which is not interrupted by trips of less than 12 months , and the physical presence of 18 months in the previous 3 years ... but I can’t seem to see the requirement  you are referring to. 

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartG-Chapter3.html

 

thx !! 

Maybe it's you interpretation or complete reading.  If you leave more than six months, you start at zero.  Read this in the worksheet for naturalization.

 

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50 minutes ago, R&OC said:

That is interesting - I had assumed and thought I read somewhere that one had to stay in the US for the majority of the time before applying for naturalization. I didn't know the days outside the US would be tagged on to the 3 or respectively 5 years. Meaning, I am working internationally (and being taxed in the US on my international income): All the days on business travel count against me? I am already trying to minimise travel as is but I cannot eliminate it all together.

Don't assume.  Read again, read more, or just take what I told you as correct.  Additionally, being gone six months or more resets the calendar to zero.  You're right about spending the majority of time in the US but that's for maintaining residency, not naturalization.  Two different subjects, but four months out per year is inside that.

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5 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Maybe it's you interpretation or complete reading.  If you leave more than six months, you start at zero.  Read this in the worksheet for naturalization.

 

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I agree totally with over 6 months in a single absence disrupting continuity of residency ... but less than 6 months doesn’t from what I read. But multiple trips less than six months each MAY cumulatively be a problem for the physical presence test on its own. 

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5 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Maybe it's you interpretation or complete reading.  If you leave more than six months, you start at zero.  Read this in the worksheet for naturalization.

 

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please would you point where exactly is written about setting clock to zero? i seem to find only 18 month continuous residence preceding the filing

 

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36 minutes ago, Gitana said:

please would you point where exactly is written about setting clock to zero? i seem to find only 18 month continuous residence preceding the filing

 

https://citizenpath.com/continuous-residence-physical-presence-requirements/

 

 

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume12-PartD-Chapter3.html

 

for the second link scroll down to section C .   Breaks in continuous residence 

 

Unfortunately these policies are scattered through different sections ... be a whole lot easier if there was one complete section !! 😬🤪

 

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