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Spank them. All of them. Beat some sense into them!

Yeah, beatings do not work on all kids, they did not work for me. The pain lasted at most, a day, the next day I was out doing the same thing, the beating was a distant memory. I got beat by the GA school system, beat by all my elders, didn't work, they gave up on me for a while.

On the other hand, a couple of day trips to the slammer for some misdemeanor beefs (DUI, Possession of things I was not suppose to have, telling the cops to kiss my a$$)_ got my attention, thank God I did not ever catch a felony and have to serve time, that would have jacked up my life. Wheeww, I dodged many bullets before I wised up. God bless military boot camp!!! Kids these days need to take a trip to the slammer or boot camp, that will get their attention. Maybe some will respond to the pain of beatings.

Edited by Orando

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That's why you have all these messed up sissy kids today. "Gender confused" ??? Parents are turning out homosexuals these days faster than Carter turned out liver pills. The dads these days are sissy's, the moms are calling the shots making their boys little sissy's and look what you have. Some emo kid taking a loaded gun to school because someone "teased him" and he starts shooting the place up. Counciling? Save the $$ and beat the d@mn kid and treat him like a boy so he turns out liking chicks and not some metrosexual who doesn't know if he should be a giver or a taker.

Well said. Today's 'wiener' parents are too busy trying to be their kid's friend rather than parenting with a firm approach tempered with a dose of understanding and a can of whoop a$$ when needed.

Yes, we are in the age of girly-men, metrosexuals and little feminist at early age.

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"Retreat hell! We just got here!"

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Filed: Country: Philippines
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Yeah, beatings do not work on all kids, they did not work for me. The pain lasted at most, a day, the next day I was out doing the same thing, the beating was a distant memory. I got beat by the GA school system, beat by all my elders, didn't work, they gave up on me for a while.

On the other hand, a couple of day trips to the slammer for some misdemeanor beefs (DUI, Possession of things I was not suppose to have, telling the cops to kiss my a$)_ got my attention, thank God I did not ever catch a felony and have to serve time, that would have jacked up my life. Wheeww, I dodged many bullets before I wised up. God bless military boot camp!!! Kids these days need to take a trip to the slammer or boot camp, that will get their attention. Maybe some will respond to the pain of beatings.

You didn't have my mother and grandmother's - guaranteed, one summer with those three ladies and you would have returned to your parents a very changed kid. :D

Sounds like you did dodge a few serious bullets. Boot camp kinda has that affect on even the baddest of the bad a$$es - they will break you or you will die (or wish you were dead) in the process.

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" - Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945.

"Retreat hell! We just got here!"

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It's pretty obvious which members here grew up in patriarchal families, where corporal punishment was used liberally, and where the grown children have idolized their fathers (or dominant authoritative figures). Their mothers tended to be meek and under opinionated, perhaps subjected to the same kind of physical punishment.

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It's pretty obvious which members here grew up in patriarchal families, where corporal punishment was used liberally, and where the grown children have idolized their fathers (or dominant authoritative figures). Their mothers tended to be meek and under opinionated, perhaps subjected to the same kind of physical punishment.

As usual your not even close...no surprise there after reading your post here for the past few years.

My mom could beat me and my brothers in arm wrestling up until the time we got into high school and even then it was close. She had her own nail belt and hammer for the fact we rebuilt a 60+ year old dairy barn with milk room and remodeled it for show horses. My ma always gave as good as she got if not better. She played basket ball with us and as far as I know she never lost a bar fight...guys or gals. She was a brawler. She never hesitated once when it came to giving any of us a beat down. She probably had more balls than (insert here if you have a hint ..ha ha ya).

So ya, try again. And this time try thinking like a guy.

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Keep your hands off my kid. Period.

My mother grew up in Turkey and got the living hell beaten out of her at school and at home by her mother. Every Monday at school they had to present their hands for a nail length inspection (any white showing was a no-no.) If they failed, they got a wooden ruler across their knuckles. If they did anything out of line they got beaten. She grew up hating authority and her mother. Her relationship with my grandmother has only in the last 10 years begun to turn into a loving, laughter-filled one.

I don't want a child who learns that misbehaviour (it happens, they're f*cking kids) leads to their own parents turning on them with violence. Sickening.

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Yeap, they'd all still be locked up today for the discipline we got in those days. Yet, somehow we survived it and turned out to be normal adults without the need for 'therapy.'

OMG! This is what I always say! lol

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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You didn't have my mother and grandmother's - guaranteed, one summer with those three ladies and you would have returned to your parents a very changed kid. :D

Sounds like you did dodge a few serious bullets. Boot camp kinda has that affect on even the baddest of the bad a$$es - they will break you or you will die (or wish you were dead) in the process.

Woooooo, your mother and grandmothers meant business!! :)

The most I got was bare butt lashings, me leaned over on the bed, maybe 10 to 15 lashes from my dad. My mom would use a switch or a belt and just go crazy and land lashes wherever she could, she never used a wire hanger, that would have hurt worse. My dad never beat me up or put me in the hospital. The GA school system paddled me, that was not bad at all, those licks were more shocking than anything, to have a person who is not your parent beating you, probably hurt more emotionally, bear butt lashes with a leather belt from a strong man hurt much worse to me. These lashings produced bleeding, swollen welts.

Yeah man, boot camp will break a man and a woman down, then build you back up, I am not a bad a$$ myself, I just have issues with authority. I thought I was bad the 1st week of boot camp, but that changed pretty quickly.... :thumbs:

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Filed: Country: Philippines
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Keep your hands off my kid. Period.

My mother grew up in Turkey and got the living hell beaten out of her at school and at home by her mother. Every Monday at school they had to present their hands for a nail length inspection (any white showing was a no-no.) If they failed, they got a wooden ruler across their knuckles. If they did anything out of line they got beaten. She grew up hating authority and her mother. Her relationship with my grandmother has only in the last 10 years begun to turn into a loving, laughter-filled one.

I don't want a child who learns that misbehaviour (it happens, they're f*cking kids) leads to their own parents turning on them with violence. Sickening.

So would you be the kind of parent that allows their brat to run around on the plane during an international flight bothering others - and you wouldn't say a word?

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" - Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945.

"Retreat hell! We just got here!"

CAPT. LLOYD WILLIAMS, USMC

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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So would you be the kind of parent that allows their brat to run around on the plane during an international flight bothering others - and you wouldn't say a word?

Absolutely not. Just because I don't believe beating a child is effective it doesn't mean they will run wild either. Keeping a kid entertained is vital of course so let them watch movies, bring toys, colouring books, whatever or keep them up late the night before so they sleep, etc. I believe in explaining my expectations to a child and then following up with consequences. If you treat kids like humans and reward positive behaviour you get much faster, healthier results. This is how I was raised and I have a loving relationship with my parents who I respect deeply and do not fear. I don't fear them because they raised me like I was an adult, not like a dog who pissed on the carpet, so out of respect I do as they ask of me, not because I'm scared of getting my #### tanned.

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Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


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Feb 28/12 - NVC Case Number, BIN & IIN Assigned, Optin E-mail for EP Sent

Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


Final Steps

Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
Jun 22/12 - POE
Jul 23/12 - SSN assigned
Aug 10/12 - Green card in hand

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Filed: Country: Philippines
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Woooooo, your mother and grandmothers meant business!! :)

The most I got was bare butt lashings, me leaned over on the bed, maybe 10 to 15 lashes from my dad. My mom would use a switch or a belt and just go crazy and land lashes wherever she could, she never used a wire hanger, that would have hurt worse. My dad never beat me up or put me in the hospital. The GA school system paddled me, that was not bad at all, those licks were more shocking than anything, to have a person who is not your parent beating you, probably hurt more emotionally, bear butt lashes with a leather belt from a strong man hurt much worse to me. These lashings produced bleeding, swollen welts.

Yeah man, boot camp will break a man and a woman down, then build you back up, I am not a bad a$ myself, I just have issues with authority. I thought I was bad the 1st week of boot camp, but that changed pretty quickly.... :thumbs:

Your mom sounds a lot like my mom and grandmother's. It did not matter to them where the switch landed on your body. Yes indeed, the women in my family did not play - no meant NO! Any challenge to that (one time was pushing it - two times and you bought yourself a well kicked butt) was met head-on with a serious can of beat-down. Occasionally they'd let you slide, but they kept a mental note and when they final had to get you, you got reminded of 'that time' they let you slide.

For example, when my mother entertained company - she only had to eyeball us a certain way and we got the message to behave, if you go 'the look' more than two times, you had better be going home with the guest or praying they where staying over all night. Because after they left, you knew very well what was coming your way. Hell, I even got my butt kicked if I allowed the kids of her guest to misbehave, no man - mom did not play, at all. But you know, as a man, I've thanked her for those butt whippings. Especially when I see some of the guys I grew up with are dead as result of foolishness, in prison or they did not amount to a 'hill of beans,' basically turned out to be bums.

Yes, that first week of boot camp is quite an attitude check.

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" - Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945.

"Retreat hell! We just got here!"

CAPT. LLOYD WILLIAMS, USMC

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Your mom sounds a lot like my mom and grandmother's. It did not matter to them where the switch landed on your body. Yes indeed, the women in my family did not play - no meant NO! Any challenge to that (one time was pushing it - two times and you bought yourself a well kicked butt) was met head-on with a serious can of beat-down. Occasionally they'd let you slide, but they kept a mental note and when they final had to get you, you got reminded of 'that time' they let you slide.

For example, when my mother entertained company - she only had to eyeball us a certain way and we got the message to behave, if you go 'the look' more than two times, you had better be going home with the guest or praying they where staying over all night. Because after they left, you knew very well what was coming your way. Hell, I even got my butt kicked if I allowed the kids of her guest to misbehave, no man - mom did not play, at all. But you know, as a man, I've thanked her for those butt whippings. Especially when I see some of the guys I grew up with are dead as result of foolishness, in prison or they did not amount to a 'hill of beans,' basically turned out to be bums.

Yes, that first week of boot camp is quite an attitude check.

Hey, if you walked away from your childhood without hating your parents for doing it to you then I'm happy, man. That's good. My great aunt used to tie her son to a table and poke him with pins. That side of my family was quite twisted in the older generations. My mother got the slipper and spoon daily. She took all the beatings, her other two sisters got none of it. I'm very similar to my mother. If you tell me I'm doing something wrong, I want to know why and how I can fix it - don't just shut me up and beat me.

Don't get me wrong though, if anyone laid a hand on my kid I'd show up with a baseball bat. Adult to adult is a different story.

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Jul 15/11 - Sent I-130 Package from Honolulu

Jul 18/11 - I-130 package received & signed for in Chicago
Jul 19/11 - Priority Date
Jul 21/11 - NOA1/USCIS Acceptance Confirmation received
Jul 29/11 - Received I-797C hard copy
Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


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Feb 28/12 - NVC Case Number, BIN & IIN Assigned, Optin E-mail for EP Sent

Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


Final Steps

Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
Jun 22/12 - POE
Jul 23/12 - SSN assigned
Aug 10/12 - Green card in hand

ROC

Mar 25/14 - ROC sent to CSC

Mar 28/14 - Package delivered to CSC

Apr 1/14 - Check cashed

Apr 3/14 - Received NOA1, Receipt Date: 3/28

Jun 15/14 - Move to San Diego

Jun 23/14 - RFE / Package sent: Aug 6, ETA Aug 8

Aug 22/14 - New Card in Production

Filed: Country: Philippines
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Posted (edited)

Absolutely not. Just because I don't believe beating a child is effective it doesn't mean they will run wild either. Keeping a kid entertained is vital of course so let them watch movies, bring toys, colouring books, whatever or keep them up late the night before so they sleep, etc. I believe in explaining my expectations to a child and then following up with consequences. If you treat kids like humans and reward positive behaviour you get much faster, healthier results. This is how I was raised and I have a loving relationship with my parents who I respect deeply and do not fear. I don't fear them because they raised me like I was an adult, not like a dog who pissed on the carpet, so out of respect I do as they ask of me, not because I'm scared of getting my #### tanned.

It proved effective for many generations, long before the government got involved in parenting and long before those 300 hundred page Ivy league studies trying to convince the public that spanking your kid was bad and ineffective.

As your kid is stretched out on the floor, in the middle of aisle going ballistic, I'll just maneuver my shopping cart around you and your kid as you negotiate and explain to him/her why they can't have that box of cereal. :D

Loving parents that discipline their kids with a good ####### kicking from time-to-time and as needed, are not raising their kids "like a dog that pissed on the carpet. One size does not fit all kids - some kids don't need it and others just don't get it until you lay hands on them.

Edited by Leatherneck

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" - Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945.

"Retreat hell! We just got here!"

CAPT. LLOYD WILLIAMS, USMC

 

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