K1 visa interview gone awry!

[Carm 0]

Please tell that 10 months of waiting for a fiance visa were not all in vain!! My finace's visa interview in Naples, Italy was today and they attacked him on a (false) charge. Has anyone's fiance visa ever been approved after a 221g has been issued for Administrative Processing? One small misunderstanding led to this HUGE collapse of my dreams. Also, has anyone successfully gotten help from a senator regarding their 221g?

[babybunny 2]

Please tell that 10 months of waiting for a fiance visa were not all in vain!! My finace's visa interview in Naples, Italy was today and they attacked him on a (false) charge. Has anyone's fiance visa ever been approved after a 221g has been issued for Administrative Processing? One small misunderstanding led to this HUGE collapse of my dreams. Also, has anyone successfully gotten help from a senator regarding their 221g?

your mixing your information. you talk of Admin processing < 221g > then you talk of a charge?

if there is a charge its not 221g. maybe its 212. you need to provide more information as to what the letter

your SO was given.

[Jenn! 918]

I would think that administrative processing is unusual going through Napoli. Is your fiance an Italian citizen, or does he happen to be a foreigner with Italian residence?

[Carm 0]

Please tell that 10 months of waiting for a fiance visa were not all in vain!! My finace's visa interview in Naples, Italy was today and they attacked him on a (false) charge. Has anyone's fiance visa ever been approved after a 221g has been issued for Administrative Processing? One small misunderstanding led to this HUGE collapse of my dreams. Also, has anyone successfully gotten help from a senator regarding their 221g?

your mixing your information. you talk of Admin processing < 221g > then you talk of a charge?

if there is a charge its not 221g. maybe its 212. you need to provide more information as to what the letter

your SO was given.

I'm sorry for the confusion. My fiance had been denied entry to the US in Dec of 2005. In a sworn statement, he denied that he had worked while in the US and the Immigration Officer called a place of business and they completed bleeped up the situation bc they told the IO that he worked for them for 2 years, which is completely untrue and totally possible to prove otherwise considering the evidence is in his passport. He's never worked in the US and has never stayed more than 90 days. So in today's interview, they pounded the same nail in deeper, claiming that he broke the law while in the US so to sit tight until the FBI investigated the charge and got the info back to them. I'm getting a statement from the person they spoke to who screwed up not only his entry in 2005 but his fiance visa app. do you understand why I'm desparate to have some justice prevail in this situation?? It's a he-said, she said and they don't give a ####### about what my italian fiance has to say about it. how devastating one woman's words could be?

here's what box was checked off on the document given to my fiance today:

"Section 221(g) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone whose application does not comply with the

provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act or regulations issued pursuant thereto. The following

remarks apply in your case:*

Administrative Processing. We will contact you when we have information from Washington, DC."

My laywer seems to think there's no way that the FBI would be bothered with such a menial investigation and that I should just apply for a 1-130, knowing that this situation could even pop up again in the future.

THanks for any info you can pass my way. Or just dip some sympathy chips at the pity party i'm throwing myself.

[Carm 0]

I would think that administrative processing is unusual going through Napoli. Is your fiance an Italian citizen, or does he happen to be a foreigner with Italian residence?

thanks for replying! He's all italian and even my lawyer didn't see the 221g coming. I was told main burden of the 129F was to prove we're are a legit couple...well after nearly 5 years together, i didn't think that would be the problem please see my other reply to get the full scoop.

[babybunny 2]

Please tell that 10 months of waiting for a fiance visa were not all in vain!! My finace's visa interview in Naples, Italy was today and they attacked him on a (false) charge. Has anyone's fiance visa ever been approved after a 221g has been issued for Administrative Processing? One small misunderstanding led to this HUGE collapse of my dreams. Also, has anyone successfully gotten help from a senator regarding their 221g?

your mixing your information. you talk of Admin processing < 221g > then you talk of a charge?

if there is a charge its not 221g. maybe its 212. you need to provide more information as to what the letter

your SO was given.

I'm sorry for the confusion. My fiance had been denied entry to the US in Dec of 2005. In a sworn statement, he denied that he had worked while in the US and the Immigration Officer called a place of business and they completed bleeped up the situation bc they told the IO that he worked for them for 2 years, which is completely untrue and totally possible to prove otherwise considering the evidence is in his passport. He's never worked in the US and has never stayed more than 90 days. So in today's interview, they pounded the same nail in deeper, claiming that he broke the law while in the US so to sit tight until the FBI investigated the charge and got the info back to them. I'm getting a statement from the person they spoke to who screwed up not only his entry in 2005 but his fiance visa app. do you understand why I'm desparate to have some justice prevail in this situation?? It's a he-said, she said and they don't give a ####### about what my italian fiance has to say about it. how devastating one woman's words could be?

here's what box was checked off on the document given to my fiance today:

"Section 221(g) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone whose application does not comply with the

provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act or regulations issued pursuant thereto. The following

remarks apply in your case:*

Administrative Processing. We will contact you when ."

My laywer seems to think there's no way that the FBI would be bothered with such a menial investigation and that I should just apply for a 1-130, knowing that this situation could even pop up again in the future.

THanks for any info you can pass my way. Or just dip some sympathy chips at the pity party i'm throwing myself.

reguardless what happend in the interview. the COs pride themself on getting information. thats their job is to interview.

putting that aside. your SO is on Admin review.

what does this mean?

1. means security checks both local and in the USA..

2. 221g means in english .. means MORE INFORMATION.

this could mean security checks coz of the statement " we have information from Washington, DC "

this also means they need to have the DOS < department of state > make the decision for the CO.

3.. admin processing can last.

17 days - 2 years. the longest to dateon VJ is 2 years and 5 months.

yeah you could apply for I-130. I would NOT suggest it!!!!!!

reason is.. 221g is NOT a DENIAL. it only means

we need information- coz we cant adjudicate.

your visa is NOT approved and NOT denied.

so there is no point to file I-130 til a real decison is made.

[William33 110]

Carm,

I am confused here. Why would a place of business claim that your Fiance worked there for 2 years, if untrue? This seems highly improbable. Please clarify that point.

I'm sorry for the confusion. My fiance had been denied entry to the US in Dec of 2005. In a sworn statement, he denied that he had worked while in the US and the Immigration Officer called a place of business and they completed bleeped up the situation bc they told the IO that he worked for them for 2 years, which is completely untrue and totally possible to prove otherwise considering the evidence is in his passport. He's never worked in the US and has never stayed more than 90 days. So in today's interview, they pounded the same nail in deeper, claiming that he broke the law while in the US so to sit tight until the FBI investigated the charge and got the info back to them. I'm getting a statement from the person they spoke to who screwed up not only his entry in 2005 but his fiance visa app. do you understand why I'm desparate to have some justice prevail in this situation?? It's a he-said, she said and they don't give a ####### about what my italian fiance has to say about it. how devastating one woman's words could be?

here's what box was checked off on the document given to my fiance today:

"Section 221(g) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone whose application does not comply with the

provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act or regulations issued pursuant thereto. The following

remarks apply in your case:*

Administrative Processing. We will contact you when we have information from Washington, DC."

My laywer seems to think there's no way that the FBI would be bothered with such a menial investigation and that I should just apply for a 1-130, knowing that this situation could even pop up again in the future.

THanks for any info you can pass my way. Or just dip some sympathy chips at the pity party i'm throwing myself.

[babybunny 2]

EDIT. your SO is on ADMIN processing,...NOT REVIEW

thats diffrent..

Carm,

I am confused here. Why would a place of business claim that your Fiance worked there for 2 years, if untrue? This seems highly improbable. Please clarify that point.

I'm sorry for the confusion. My fiance had been denied entry to the US in Dec of 2005. In a sworn statement, he denied that he had worked while in the US and the Immigration Officer called a place of business and they completed bleeped up the situation bc they told the IO that he worked for them for 2 years, which is completely untrue and totally possible to prove otherwise considering the evidence is in his passport. He's never worked in the US and has never stayed more than 90 days. So in today's interview, they pounded the same nail in deeper, claiming that he broke the law while in the US so to sit tight until the FBI investigated the charge and got the info back to them. I'm getting a statement from the person they spoke to who screwed up not only his entry in 2005 but his fiance visa app. do you understand why I'm desparate to have some justice prevail in this situation?? It's a he-said, she said and they don't give a ####### about what my italian fiance has to say about it. how devastating one woman's words could be?

here's what box was checked off on the document given to my fiance today:

"Section 221(g) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone whose application does not comply with the

provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act or regulations issued pursuant thereto. The following

remarks apply in your case:*

Administrative Processing. We will contact you when we have information from Washington, DC."

My laywer seems to think there's no way that the FBI would be bothered with such a menial investigation and that I should just apply for a 1-130, knowing that this situation could even pop up again in the future.

THanks for any info you can pass my way. Or just dip some sympathy chips at the pity party i'm throwing myself.

I agree william.

this is why the 221g. Admin Processing.... they need more information.

Admin processsing - can be anything the CO, DOS, and Embassy want it to be.

if you file I -130. you still have to respond to the 221g.

[Carm 0]

Carm,

I am confused here. Why would a place of business claim that your Fiance worked there for 2 years, if untrue? This seems highly improbable. Please clarify that point.

np-- the place of business was completely inept and most importantly, didn't even verify with their records about whom they were being inquired about. had they done that, they would have seen that my fiance was NOT in their records and also that they were not just vaguely answering a call for a reference (as if for a job interview). some people can be just flat out stupid and put their whole company's rep on the line for one rushed phone call.

[William33 110]

Carm,

Do you know who this "alleged" employer is? If so, I suggest you have an attorney contact them and demand an affidavit substantiating their claim that your Fiance was employed there. If untrue, they can formulate an affidavit clarifying the mistake.

This approach, surmises of course, that this is the only sticking point.

You can then supply this document in your Fiance's defense.

FYI: The FBI does not investigate issues such as this. If the FBI is involved in some sort of investigation on your Fiance, their is much more information required here.

np-- the place of business was completely inept and most importantly, didn't even verify with their records about whom they were being inquired about. had they done that, they would have seen that my fiance was NOT in their records and also that they were not just vaguely answering a call for a reference (as if for a job interview). some people can be just flat out stupid and put their whole company's rep on the line for one rushed phone call.

Carm,

I am confused here. Why would a place of business claim that your Fiance worked there for 2 years, if untrue? This seems highly improbable. Please clarify that point.

Edited October 4, 2006 by William33

[Yodrak 7]

Carm,

Your attorney may not have seen it coming, but they should be able to address the problem now that it's here. If they can't, or won't, start interviewing for a new lawyer.

Yodrak

thanks for replying! He's all italian and even my lawyer didn't see the 221g coming. .....

[CarolineM 0]

How did they get the name of the business? did they just call up random people? How is your fiance associated with this business in ANY way?

[Carm 0]

Carm,

Do you know who this "alleged" employer is? If so, I suggest you have an attorney contact them and demand an affidavit substantiating their claim that your Fiance was employed there. If untrue, they can formulate an affidavit clarifying the mistake.

This approach, surmises of course, that this is the only sticking point.

You can then supply this document in your Fiance's defense.

FYI: The FBI does not investigate issues such as this. If the FBI is involved in some sort of investigation on your Fiance, their is much more information required here.

np-- the place of business was completely inept and most importantly, didn't even verify with their records about whom they were being inquired about. had they done that, they would have seen that my fiance was NOT in their records and also that they were not just vaguely answering a call for a reference (as if for a job interview). some people can be just flat out stupid and put their whole company's rep on the line for one rushed phone call.

Carm,

I am confused here. Why would a place of business claim that your Fiance worked there for 2 years, if untrue? This seems highly improbable. Please clarify that point.

In Dec 2005, my fiance came over on the Visa Waiver Program and they denied his entry in Philly after they ransacking his bags and took out all of his papers. They found a resume in italian which mention his volunteer experience at a company in FL. They called the place of business and the lady completely mistook him for someone else bc she said that he had been working at their company over 2 years (IMPOSSIBLE ON BOTH COUNTS!!). If that wasn't enough, they found the paperwork we were getting ready for the fiance app and of course they were idiots and wouldn't believe that either. He asked for a phone call, a lawyer, a interpreter, a call to the Italian embassy/consulate...and he was denied ALL of them. They told him if he didn't stop asking for a phone call (they waved handcuffs in his face), he would have to wait in jail for two days until the office re-opened (as if no one works on a saturday) or go back to Italy. He chose the latter, considering the treatment he was getting and of course being put in jail was not an option (he's seen too many episodes of COPS). I didn't find out until he was about board the plane that all this was happening .

DO I QUALIFY FOR THE AWARD FOR THE MOST UN-FREAKING-BELIEVEABLE, TOTALLY MESSED UP USCIS EXPERIENCE EVER??

Edited October 5, 2006 by Carm

[homesick_american 1]

Carm,

Do you know who this "alleged" employer is? If so, I suggest you have an attorney contact them and demand an affidavit substantiating their claim that your Fiance was employed there. If untrue, they can formulate an affidavit clarifying the mistake.

This approach, surmises of course, that this is the only sticking point.

You can then supply this document in your Fiance's defense.

FYI: The FBI does not investigate issues such as this. If the FBI is involved in some sort of investigation on your Fiance, their is much more information required here.

np-- the place of business was completely inept and most importantly, didn't even verify with their records about whom they were being inquired about. had they done that, they would have seen that my fiance was NOT in their records and also that they were not just vaguely answering a call for a reference (as if for a job interview). some people can be just flat out stupid and put their whole company's rep on the line for one rushed phone call.

Carm,

I am confused here. Why would a place of business claim that your Fiance worked there for 2 years, if untrue? This seems highly improbable. Please clarify that point.

In Dec 2005, my fiance came over on the Visa Waiver Program and they denied his entry in Philly after they ransacking his bags and took out all of his papers. They found a resume in italian which mention his volunteer experience at a company in FL. They called the place of business and the lady completely mistook him for someone else bc she said that he had been working at their company over 2 years (IMPOSSIBLE ON BOTH COUNTS!!). If that wasn't enough, they found the paperwork we were getting ready for the fiance app and of course they were idiots and wouldn't believe that either. He asked for a phone call, a lawyer, a interpreter, a call to the Italian embassy/consulate...and he was denied ALL of them. They told him if he didn't stop asking for a phone call (they waved handcuffs in his face), he would have to wait in jail for two days until the office re-opened (as if no one works on a saturday) or go back to Italy. He chose the latter, considering the treatment he was getting and of course being put in jail was not an option (he's seen too many episodes of COPS). I didn't find out until he was about board the plane that all this was happening .

DO I QUALIFY FOR THE AWARD FOR THE MOST UN-FREAKING-BELIEVEABLE, TOTALLY MESSED UP USCIS EXPERIENCE EVER??

Not sure, but I'd have to say that story is up there with some of the most bizarre ones I've heard since joining this board!

Get your lawyer all over this...if he/she can't get something done, do as another poster did and get one who can. A lawyer isn't worth the fee if he/she can't make things easier/get answers for you. I'd also start pestering my congressman/senators. They usually can't intervene but a phone call from one of them can often light a fire under a case.

Good luck!

[meauxna 15]

In Dec 2005, my fiance came over on the Visa Waiver Program and they denied his entry in Philly after they ransacking his bags and took out all of his papers. They found a resume in italian which mention his volunteer experience at a company in FL.

Whether he worked there for 2 years or not, the above problem remains.