N-14 on N-600 application

[visajourneymember 2]

My son came to the US last year on a IR-2 visa. He's 4 years old. I applied for CoC (N-600) a month or so after he came. Now USCIS has sent an N-14, requesting the following additional documents:

1. Marriage cert 2. Proof that the child is in my custody 3. Proof of address for parents AND child

Number 1 is easy, for no 2 and 3 I don't know what to provide them with. Proof of address for a 4 year old, seriously?

Based on what I read online, I thought once a IR-2 under 16 (or whatever) comes to the US, they are a USC upon enterance. I never knew, the law requires such things, before the child becomes a citizen.

[Mountain Climber 186]

My son came to the US last year on a IR-2 visa. He's 4 years old. I applied for CoC (N-600) a month or so after he came. Now USCIS has sent an N-14, requesting the following additional documents:

1. Marriage cert 2. Proof that the child is in my custody 3. Proof of address for parents AND child

Number 1 is easy, for no 2 and 3 I don't know what to provide them with. Proof of address for a 4 year old, seriously?

Based on what I read online, I thought once a IR-2 under 16 (or whatever) comes to the US, they are a USC upon enterance. I never knew, the law requires such things, before the child becomes a citizen.

Are you a US citizen by birth or did you naturalize?

Edited February 21, 2012 by Mountain Climber

[visajourneymember 2]

Are you a US citizen by birth or did you naturalize?

naturalize

[N400-2011 24]

You can use your certificate and apply for a US passport for your son...he became a citizen immediately upon entry into the US as an LPR. I have no clue what you would use for 2 or 3.

I applied for a passport for my 14 year old. He had to be with me at the passport agency. I was never asked for proof that he was living with me but that is dept of state, not uscis

Edited February 21, 2012 by N400-2011

[sib 7]

Is your child enrolled in daycare or Pre-K? Do you have him on your health insurance? Did you take him to a doctor?

I had to provide the same for my children. The child needs to be in your custody means share the same address. So you need something stating that he is living with you at your address.

School report card (or daycare progress report or something), health insurance statement with him on, medical bill ...

My kids were living with me already for a longer time so I had some things, but you should be able to get some ...

The same will happen if you apply for a passport, that's actually when I was asked to submit additional proof. I did not hear anything yet back about the N-600, but I have a letter from USCIS stating that they are citizens, so I submitted that together with the application.

Wishing you luck

Sib

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

You are correct: your child is a U.S. citizen. That's why for the life of it I don't understand why you spent $600 on a torture request instead of just going to the passport office and getting the little one a U.S. passport.

[nwctzn 55]

My son came to the US last year on a IR-2 visa. He's 4 years old. I applied for CoC (N-600) a month or so after he came. Now USCIS has sent an N-14, requesting the following additional documents:

1. Marriage cert 2. Proof that the child is in my custody 3. Proof of address for parents AND child

Number 1 is easy, for no 2 and 3 I don't know what to provide them with. Proof of address for a 4 year old, seriously?

Based on what I read online, I thought once a IR-2 under 16 (or whatever) comes to the US, they are a USC upon enterance. I never knew, the law requires such things, before the child becomes a citizen.

For 2 and 3, do you have any healthcare documents with your kid's name on it? That should do it. For 2, also a notarized statement with your and your spouse's names on it stating that you live at the same address and that the kid is with you could also work. Also, if you already filed for taxes and claimed him as a dependent, that should show up on your IRS tax forms as well.

Edited February 22, 2012 by nwctzn

[visajourneymember 2]

Is your child enrolled in daycare or Pre-K? Do you have him on your health insurance? Did you take him to a doctor?

I had to provide the same for my children. The child needs to be in your custody means share the same address. So you need something stating that he is living with you at your address.

School report card (or daycare progress report or something), health insurance statement with him on, medical bill ...

My kids were living with me already for a longer time so I had some things, but you should be able to get some ...

The same will happen if you apply for a passport, that's actually when I was asked to submit additional proof. I did not hear anything yet back about the N-600, but I have a letter from USCIS stating that they are citizens, so I submitted that together with the application.

Wishing you luck

Sib

Interesting ... I wonder what makes them request this from some people but not all.

He's been going to a church preschool. I will submit the payment invoive I obtained from the preschool, showing that I've made payments for the last several months. Also I will include the carbon copies of the checks made.

Do you think this will suffice as proof of custody and address (requests 2 & 3 by USCIS)? Thanks.

[visajourneymember 2]

For 2 and 3, do you have any healthcare documents with your kid's name on it? That should do it. For 2, also a notarized statement with your and your spouse's names on it stating that you live at the same address and that the kid is with you could also work. Also, if you already filed for taxes and claimed him as a dependent, that should show up on your IRS tax forms as well.

You make good points. Thanks for the info.

How can I obtain such statement (saying that me, my wife and the kid live together) notarized?

Edited February 24, 2012 by visajourneymember

[visajourneymember 2]

You are correct: your child is a U.S. citizen. That's why for the life of it I don't understand why you spent $600 on a torture request instead of just going to the passport office and getting the little one a U.S. passport.

Yes, and now I have to spend $200 to get the marriage certificate translated.

[visajourneymember 2]

Thanks everyone for the replies and information.

I've found the following:

According to the Department of State website:

Section 320: Automatic Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship for Children Born Outside of the United States and Residing Permanently in the United States

The child must meet the following requirements:

Have at least one U.S. citizen parent by birth or naturalization;

Be under 18 years of age;

Live in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent;

Be admitted as an immigrant for lawful permanent residence

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5200.html

Now, USCIS is questioning the 3rd one ("Live in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent"). OK, so if I provide evidence that the child is in my custody and lives with me, why do I need to provide the marriage certificate? Do I have to really spend $200 for a translation of the (10 years old) marriage certificate.