Married in Vietnam

[chippo 2]

Hey Now,

Howdy everyone, I got my marriage paperwork done and go to HCM tomorrow to have it recognized by the US. My engagement party was on July 27 2009. Our fiance visa was shot down after a long wait. Since then I had a visit for 3 weeks for last Tet 2011. Like a lot of people i struggled after losing my job, but just barely made the required amount for support status, however I got on as a government contractor in Iraq and worked for 5 months, good pay. I then came to Vietnam in December and started marriage paperwork. The process was lengthy, even with required bribes for every stamp on every paper. It was either pay extra and have it done or it might be approved in a week or two, maybe.

also the interview was costly behind closed doors. There is an age difference, I am 49 and she is 27, but we don't feel or recognize a difference it instead feel right and good and brings us and our families happiness. those that do not approve, sorry but this is my future, and we are happy. I have been here since December on my 3rd visit .

I will get our marriage paper recognized by the US and I hope to get a chance to talk to the consular staff concerning our future paperwork. For any response on my multiple questions.....THANK YOU

1. what marriage visa is the most efficient , fastest, and successful?

2. can I do a DCF in HCM

3. what if my visa is approved and I get another high paying contractor job out of the US, can she stay with my elderly parents in the US while I work in another country

4. what if she gets pregnant and we have a bay before she comes to US

5. do I need an attorney, {still gun shy after failed fiance visa} I dont want any problems, and want this to work

ps our fiance visa said not enough evidence and not a bonna fide relationship,,,sham and try to go around immigration laws ...ect

thanks Chippo and Dieu

[brian_n_phuong 193]

4. what if she gets pregnant and we have a bay before she comes to US

Is this the current reason for your hurry? Contraception is available in Viet Nam.

3. what if my visa is approved and I get another high paying contractor job out of the US, can she stay with my elderly parents in the US while I work in another country

Your not going to stay married long if that is your plan, just my opinion.

[ScottThuy 140]

Given the recent death of a members child while awaiting approval, I would not advise anyone to get pregnant while waiting for a visa...

[joenlemy 2]

I-130 for married couples...

you cant do a DCF in HCM any more.

If you live with your parents. Then again they could look at the fact you work outside the country.

when you've been denied once a good immigration attorney is not a bad idea. You are going to have to overcome the lack of evidence from the K-1. Front load the petition. with as much evidence as possible when you file. HCMC still does not care to look at phone records or chat or emails.

When we turned in our evidence they handed everything back but the I-864.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Hey Now,

Howdy everyone, I got my marriage paperwork done and go to HCM tomorrow to have it recognized by the US. My engagement party was on July 27 2009. Our fiance visa was shot down after a long wait. Since then I had a visit for 3 weeks for last Tet 2011. Like a lot of people i struggled after losing my job, but just barely made the required amount for support status, however I got on as a government contractor in Iraq and worked for 5 months, good pay. I then came to Vietnam in December and started marriage paperwork. The process was lengthy, even with required bribes for every stamp on every paper. It was either pay extra and have it done or it might be approved in a week or two, maybe.

also the interview was costly behind closed doors. There is an age difference, I am 49 and she is 27, but we don't feel or recognize a difference it instead feel right and good and brings us and our families happiness. those that do not approve, sorry but this is my future, and we are happy. I have been here since December on my 3rd visit .

I will get our marriage paper recognized by the US and I hope to get a chance to talk to the consular staff concerning our future paperwork. For any response on my multiple questions.....THANK YOU

1. what marriage visa is the most efficient , fastest, and successful?

File the I-130. Your wife will file for an CR-1 visa. She gets a conditional green card immediately when she enters the US, so you would not need to file and pay to adjust her status.

This route is not any more successful than others. The same requirements apply. You may still need to address whatever reasons the K-1 visa was denied.

2. can I do a DCF in HCM

No. You need to be living in Vietnam for six months to do a DCF. You're visiting, so you file in the US.

3. what if my visa is approved and I get another high paying contractor job out of the US, can she stay with my elderly parents in the US while I work in another country

Yes.

4. what if she gets pregnant and we have a bay before she comes to US

You would need to report the birth of a US citizen child to the US Embassy/Consulate. You would file for a CRBA and a US passport for your child. Your child will need the US passport to enter the US.

5. do I need an attorney, {still gun shy after failed fiance visa} I dont want any problems, and want this to work

You can educate yourself and proceed without a lawyer - many on this forum have petitioned for a spouse without a lawyer. However, with a K-1 denial, you might want an experienced lawyer to determine why your K-1 was denied, address any deficiencies in your application, and do it right on the second try. Only you can gauge your ability to do this alone.

ps our fiance visa said not enough evidence and not a bonna fide relationship,,,sham and try to go around immigration laws ...ect

thanks Chippo and Dieu

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I agree with Aaron except on one point:

2. DCF is no longer possible except in countries that have a USCIS field office. They closed the USCIS field office in Vietnam more than a year ago. Nobody can file DCF in Vietnam anymore - not even if they've been living there more than six months.

Chippo, after having failed once at the consulate in HCMC, and since you're going to be in Vietnam soon, it wouldn't hurt for you to at least have a consultation with Marc Ellis. You don't have to hire him for the petition or visa application, but at least a conversation with him can be very enlightening. He's dealt with hundreds of cases at the consulate in HCMC. If there's any specific evidence that could be front loaded with your next petition to improve your chances of success then he'll know what it is.

http://www.marcellislaw.com/contact.html

[David-Hien 11]

Now your main job is to get the visa first. So, I agree with Jim va Phuong that you should talk to Marc Ellis.

When you get the visa, please pay attention on this part:

"3. what if my visa is approved and I get another high paying contractor job out of the US, can she stay with my elderly parents in the US while I work in another country"

I think that it may be "Yes" if you got married and applied for marriage visa. Then, you don't need to worry for the 2 yrs green card.

However, I don't know whether your wife like or not to live in the US alone a long time without her husband helping for the daily activities such as driving, studying, shopping, ... It is not good at all.

[chippo 2]

I spoke with thw officer yesterday, and she said if I was a perminate resident in Vietnam, and she said I could hand the petiton in at their office, wheater or not it was callled a DCF I do not know

yes

I agree with Aaron except on one point:

2. DCF is no longer possible except in countries that have a USCIS field office. They closed the USCIS field office in Vietnam more than a year ago. Nobody can file DCF in Vietnam anymore - not even if they've been living there more than six months.

Chippo, after having failed once at the consulate in HCMC, and since you're going to be in Vietnam soon, it wouldn't hurt for you to at least have a consultation with Marc Ellis. You don't have to hire him for the petition or visa application, but at least a conversation with him can be very enlightening. He's dealt with hundreds of cases at the consulate in HCMC. If there's any specific evidence that could be front loaded with your next petition to improve your chances of success then he'll know what it is.

http://www.marcellis...om/contact.html

[chippo 2]

thank you and I will try to use an attorney, as I do want everything to go right. they gave me a list of attorneys in HCM that I will research

[chippo 2]

4. what if she gets pregnant and we have a bay before she comes to US

Is this the current reason for your hurry? Contraception is available in Viet Nam.

4 NO And HURRY? I attempted a visa in 2009. I wanted to get married, and I did.

DUDE,,,,,YOU ARE NOT MY DAD,,,,, contraception is available

I do not plan to have a child before she comes to the US,,,,,but I want to educate myself and understand what could happen, no one has control of life..EVEN YOU

3. what if my visa is approved and I get another high paying contractor job out of the US, can she stay with my elderly parents in the US while I work in another country

Your not going to stay married long if that is your plan, just my opinion.

i AM THINKING OF MY FUTURE. In a year IF i CAN MAKE 3 TIMES WHAT I USE TO MAKE, AND TAX FREE. IT MAY BE A GOOD THING. I want to be able to provide for my wife and family. money earned oversea is banked as their is not many places to spend money in a war zone.

[chippo 2]

Now your main job is to get the visa first. So, I agree with Jim va Phuong that you should talk to Marc Ellis.

When you get the visa, please pay attention on this part:

"3. what if my visa is approved and I get another high paying contractor job out of the US, can she stay with my elderly parents in the US while I work in another country"

I think that it may be "Yes" if you got married and applied for marriage visa. Then, you don't need to worry for the 2 yrs green card.

However, I don't know whether your wife like or not to live in the US alone a long time without her husband helping for the daily activities such as driving, studying, shopping, ... It is not good at all.

thank you I will research Marc Ellis, did you use his sevice, I have seen his name much on this site. And working abroad will be a difficult choice to make. I want to provide and have a small financial comfort level,

[chippo 2]

I spoke with thw officer yesterday, and she said if I was a perminate resident in Vietnam, and she said I could hand the petiton in at their office, wheater or not it was callled a DCF I do not know

yes

good advise, Is he in HCM, thanks ..I have been in Vietnam since Dec, HCM is only 2 hours from us in Tay Ninh,

[brian_n_phuong 193]

i AM THINKING OF MY FUTURE. In a year IF i CAN MAKE 3 TIMES WHAT I USE TO MAKE, AND TAX FREE. IT MAY BE A GOOD THING. I want to be able to provide for my wife and family. money earned oversea is banked as their is not many places to spend money in a war zone.

Is it aways about money? You wife will want you to be there, especially for the first few years when she will struggle adapting to a complete different culture and being away from her family. She would rather have you poor and flipping burgers as long as you are THERE with her. Your a guy and thinking about your family which is commendable and a normal guy thing, but sometimes we have to think about the female perspective as she will be equally effected by your decision.

I am just trying to save you the heartbreak that happened to me. I was in a similar situation with my first wife; career military, married in Europe, DCF, and then being deployed shortly after arriving in the US. I thought I was doing a good thing, making extra pay to send home and convinced myself that she would be 'fine'. Well. in reality she had trouble adapting, was homesick, and felt abandoned to some degree (and with justification). Keep in mind she was from Western Europe in which the culture is not all that different. Asian, and particularly Vietnamese are EXTREMLY family centric, and their culture is radically different from the West as I'm sure you are aware. Unless you plan on living in Westminster, Ca or Sugarland, Tx your wife is going to feel like she landed on Mars and will NEED you THERE to provide that love and support for a few years until she can adapt.

Yes, maybe I am sounding like your dad, but your situation rang a familiar bell and brought back some circumstances I don't plan on repeating this time. I apologize if I sounded blunt, but am trying to prevent you from following in my old and mistaken path.

Edited February 22, 2012 by brian_n_phuong

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

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[brian_n_phuong 193]

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You missed one or the bait posts ! (Right Above Yours)

Darn, you could have at least let us slap ole 'Dau Que' around a bit before you booted him !

Edited February 22, 2012 by brian_n_phuong