Gaza militants fire rockets at Israel

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

A card carrying member of the National Alliance, sorry, that would be you.

Looks like a TOS violation to me.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

+1000

Well, we all know what this makes Karee.

The only thing worse than a Muslim is a Muslim-lover.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

Looks like a TOS violation to me.

I will not stand by for pernicious nonsense and innuendo, if that's a TOS violation, so be it. Being a Muslim or a Jew or a Christian or a member of any religious group is not a crime nor is it something to be ashamed of. Narrow-minded individuals would like to cast aspersions on the character of others while they enjoy immunity from censure. Not on my watch, Bub!

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Looks like a TOS violation to me.

If stating the obvious is a TOS violation, then John Galt is a TOS violation every time he posts.

[Ban Hammer 13,548]

ok, let's stop the mud slinging....

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

ok, let's stop the mud slinging....

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

Frankly, neither of you make sense.

Nothing you post makes sense. You never answer the questions asked, you avoid any semblance of coherence or focus in your answers. You bring great disrespect and dishonour to a great religion.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

So going back to this premise:

You fire 30 rockets into another country and see what happens. 30 rockets fired into Israel since Jan. 1st of this year.

So... how many missiles, tank shells & other deadly projectiles has Israel fired into Gaza during the same time period ? How many Israelis have been killed ? How many Palestinians have been killed ?

Half the story: What @IDFSpokesperson leaves out about #Gaza

Regular updates on just about every projectile fired from Gaza is reported by the Israeli military's official twitter account @IDFSpokesperson as well as from the accounts of other Israeli military figures like that of spokesperson @AvitalLeibovich.

But what about projectiles fired by Israel into Gaza? You'd think that since this is actual Israeli military activity the spokespeople from the Israeli military would provide this information.

I often ask the @IDFspokesperson and @AvitalLeibovich to provide this information to allow for a clearer, more accurate picture of the cross border dynamics of violence. One such occasion was on last Friday - you can see the convo on Twitter below:

In 2011, for example, we recorded approximately 465 launches which produced 743 projectiles (some launches involve firing more than one projectile). This number, 743, is more than the number, 620, Leibovich reported in her Tweet. I believe this is because we count launches, including projectiles which are fired in Gaza and land in Gaza, while the figure Leibovich cites is a count of projectiles actually landing inside Israel.

As far as data on Israeli projectiles sent into Gaza, this is the information Leibovich and the Israeli military don't want to reveal. We've got a very good idea, however, of most of it since the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UN OCHA) keeps detailed data on casualties in Palestine. By querying this database we can quickly learn a great deal about the numbers Leibovich is hesitant to report. Despite readily producing information on rockets from Gaza in 2011, here is some of the information the Israeli Military doesn't report in the same fashion:

In 2011, the projectiles fired by the Israeli military into Gaza have been responsible for the death of 108 Palestinians, of which 15 where women or children and the injury of 468 Palestinians of which 143 where women or children. The methods by which these causalities were inflicted by Israeli projectiles breaks down as follows: 57% or 310, were caused by Israeli Aircraft Missile fire, 28% or 150 where from Israeli live ammunition, 11% or 59 were from Israeli tank shells while another 3% or 18 were from Israeli mortar fire.

Conversely, rocket fire from Gaza in 2011 has resulted in the death of 3 Israelis. I've tried to find an accurate aggregate number of Israelis injured by projectiles from Gaza in 2011 but haven't found anything yet. I'd be happy to update this post with that information once available. I think, however, the point is quite clear when it comes to the numbers; the imbalance is tremendous.

Leibovich and the Israeli military provide constant updates about projectiles from Gaza, the vast majority of which do not cause casualties, while telling you almost nothing about projectiles they fire into Gaza and the tremendous amount of casualties they cause.

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http://blog.thejerusalemfund.org/2012/02/half-story-what-idfspokesperson-leaves.html

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

The only thing worse than a Muslim is a Muslim-lover.

She's a lover of terrorists.

Let me remind you....... 30 unguided rockets were fired into Israel by Muslim terrorists...... karee wished it were 60. What would you call that?

Do you even have a clue?

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

congratulations on either not reading the entire thread, or possessing zero reading comprehension skills. regardless of pooky's little rant, karee remains NOT MUSLIM. he never has been. so i guess his vile comment belongs over in your corner. it's only fair that everyone who isn't muslim now gets saddled with his comment, and will never live it down, no matter how much they may protest.

Who said he was Muslim? He supports terrorists so that makes him a .........

Take a guess.

HE SUPPORTS TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMFG

ONCE AGAIN HE WISHED FOR 60 ROCKETS INSTEAD OF 30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CAN YOU COMPREHEND?

Edited February 22, 2012 by John Galt

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

So going back to this premise:

So... how many missiles, tank shells & other deadly projectiles has Israel fired into Gaza during the same time period ? How many Israelis have been killed ? How many Palestinians have been killed ?

Israel has "retaliated" against those rocket attacks. The Jews are anything but stupid when it comes to dealing with Arabs. You kill one of them, and they will kill ten of yours. The Arabs still haven't learned this hence the reason they keep firing rockets into Israel. When Israel retaliates then the Arabs cry about it. It's actually pretty simple. Don't fire rockets into Israel and the Israeli's won't bomb you.

REACTION

When you fire rockets into another country expect a "reaction". As far as the death count of Israeli's vs Arabs. LOL? Your talking about a highly trained real army with a real air force and real navy vs a bunch of wing nuts with more weapons than brains.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

You were already shown the figures of rockets fired during the months preceding Cast Lead, and a news clip of IDF spokesman Mark Regev himself admitting on camera that Israel broke the cease-fire.

Faced with that, what else can you do but continue to deny it ?

Edited February 22, 2012 by wife_of_mahmoud

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Again, from the UN report:

Beyond this, records show that, during the ceasefire, it was predominantly Israel that resorted to conduct inconsistent with the undertaking, and Hamas that retaliated. According to the above-mentioned study, during a longer period, from 2000 to 2008, it was found that, in 79 per cent of the violent interaction incidents, it was Israel that broke the pause in violence. In the course of events preceding the attacks of 27 December, the breakdown of the truce followed a series of incidents on 4 November in which Israel killed a Palestinian in Gaza, mortars were fired from Gaza in retaliation, and then an Israeli air strike was launched that killed an additional six Palestinians in Gaza; in other words, the breakdown of the ceasefire seems to have been mainly a result of Israeli violations, although this offers no legal, moral or political excuse for firing of rockets aimed at civilian targets, which itself amounts to a clear violation of international humanitarian law.

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The Palestinian side adhered to the ceasefire, with relatively few exceptions, and relied on violence almost exclusively in reactive modes, while Israel failed to implement its undertaking to lift the blockade and seems mainly responsible for breaking lulls in the violence by engaging in targeted assassinations and other violent and unlawful provocations, most significantly by its air strike of 4 November 2008;

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/10session/A.HRC.10.20.pdf

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

You were already shown the figures of rockets fired during the months preceding Cast Lead, and a news clip of IDF spokesman Mark Regev himself admitting on camera that Israel broke the cease-fire.

Faced with that, what else can you do but continue to deny it ?

His real name is Mark Freiberg, and he's never been under any assumption other than the Arabs provoked the Gaza invasion. Do you have any idea of how many rockets the Arabs fired into Israel prior to that invasion?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Do you have any idea of how many rockets the Arabs fired into Israel prior to that invasion?

It's covered in the clip (which you apparently didn't watch, although you seem to want to debate it.)