When the Earth refuses to warm

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

so it answers the question, which was asked, as to why a physicist may have an opinion or sign a petition on the subject of global warming.

That wasn't the question asked.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I see, how silly of me.

How dare i get confused on the fact that scientists claim one thing tooth and nail and then get proven wrong when they actually step out of the lab to verify it. Then go on to extend themselves on that by saying they don't really have a way to actually accurately measure glaciers, etc. like they've been saying for years.

Damn, I guess admitting being wrong is not the same as proving it wrong. Doh.

Well, damn. No measuring needed, I'd say. This ain't some optical trick, it's a rapidly melting glacier.

[xebec 195]

The saddest part about you guys that think you are smarter than professional scientists with more knowledge in .00001% of their brains than all of your brains put together is.....nm....not going to finish that thought.

Is it just the scientists who align with your secular religion that are this intelligent? What about the scientists that disagree? These are just the stupid scientists?

Well, damn. No measuring needed, I'd say. This ain't some optical trick, it's a rapidly melting glacier.

Wow! Your two photos prove global warming beyond any doubt! I'm in....

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Wow! Your two photos prove global warming beyond any doubt! I'm in....

That's the picture across most of the world. I know that the denialists can't absorb a lot of information at once so I tried to keep it simple. Now the denialists are focusing on the Himalayan glaciers which have not been receeding at an alarming pace over the last decade. But they forget that the same study of satellite images that brought this little gem to light also confirmed that glaciers are receeding at an alarming pace globally contributing to the rise of the sea levels within the same range as other studies showed. The simpletons only consumed the beginning of the headline of the article "Himalayan glaciers melting more slowly than thought" couldn't be bothered with the whole presentation and then want to sit there, focus on this one region of the world and use that as "proof" that the entire global warming science has been debunked when no such thing actually happened. That's laughable.

[luckytxn 2,264]

That's the picture across most of the world. I know that the denialists can't absorb a lot of information at once so I tried to keep it simple. Now the denialists are focusing on the Himalayan glaciers which have not been receeding at an alarming pace over the last decade. But they forget that the same study of satellite images that brought this little gem to light also confirmed that glaciers are receeding at an alarming pace globally contributing to the rise of the sea levels within the same range as other studies showed. The simpletons only consumed the beginning of the headline of the article "Himalayan glaciers melting more slowly than thought" couldn't be bothered with the whole presentation and then want to sit there, focus on this one region of the world and use that as "proof" that the entire global warming science has been debunked when no such thing actually happened. That's laughable.

So the reports after they did actual measurements of overall glacial melt and it showing there was not a significant ice loss done by scientists were wrong?

[xebec 195]

That's the picture across most of the world. I know that the denialists can't absorb a lot of information at once so I tried to keep it simple. Now the denialists are focusing on the Himalayan glaciers which have not been receeding at an alarming pace over the last decade. But they forget that the same study of satellite images that brought this little gem to light also confirmed that glaciers are receeding at an alarming pace globally contributing to the rise of the sea levels within the same range as other studies showed. The simpletons only consumed the beginning of the headline of the article "Himalayan glaciers melting more slowly than thought" couldn't be bothered with the whole presentation and then want to sit there, focus on this one region of the world and use that as "proof" that the entire global warming science has been debunked when no such thing actually happened. That's laughable.

Speaking about this debate in a deragatory tone has cost you true believers much of your (already tenuous) credibility. I can easily find articles published by scientists int he field that the ice caps are growing. And here you are calling people denialists (your secular religion's new term for heretics), and simpletons.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/285746

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/

Edited February 16, 2012 by xebec

[luckytxn 2,264]

Speaking about this debate in a deragatory tone has cost you true believers much of your (already tenuous) credibility. I can easily find articles published by scientists int he field that the ice caps are growing. And here you are calling people denialists (your secular religion's new term for heretics), and simpletons.

http://digitaljourna.../article/285746

http://www.washingto...ce-cap-growing/

I have posted every study that showed GW was not happening. I have also posted studies that have shown earlier studies FOR GW to be wrong. They will believe because they are told by the major media that it is happening. It is so easy to just google and find contrary opinion. That is why we must thank Al Gore for inventing the internet. The GW sheep almost got away with this scam.

[slim 1,525]

Or that the small non-profits and scientists are looking for way to get rich without producing anything or by selling "nothing" like carbon credits and take money from people who earned it by producing something people want to buy and give it to people who do nothing.

That never happens, does it?

What's more probable?

The saddest part about you guys that think you are smarter than professional scientists with more knowledge in .00001% of their brains than all of your brains put together is.....nm....not going to finish that thought.

Scientists are specialists within a given field. There's no scientist on the planet in the field of climate change because climate change is a ficticious science.

Therefore.... and this is scientific... there are no "experts" on climate change.

Well, damn. No measuring needed, I'd say. This ain't some optical trick, it's a rapidly melting glacier.

....or it's a volcano.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Well, damn. No measuring needed, I'd say. This ain't some optical trick, it's a rapidly melting glacier.

michael moore's belly?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So the reports after they did actual measurements of overall glacial melt and it showing there was not a significant ice loss done by scientists were wrong?

Again, that's not what the study showed. It did show that there was less than anticipated glacier loss on the Himalayas but it also showed that there was significan glacier loss globally and that such glacier loss dis and does contribute to rising sea levels. There was no "all clear" coming from that study. Not even close. Gotta read past the headline to see that.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Speaking about this debate in a deragatory tone has cost you true believers much of your (already tenuous) credibility. I can easily find articles published by scientists in the field that the ice caps are growing. And here you are calling people denialists (your secular religion's new term for heretics), and simpletons.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/285746

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/

Articles? Sure. I can find articles that say that Obama was born in Kenya. Still, today. That he's a Muslim. And a Communist. Not coincidentally, I can find those articles in the very same publications that will tell me that GW is a hoax. What do all of these articles have in common? Right, they are #######.

See, here is a visual for you on how the ice cap of the North Pole has been "growing".

2006

2011

Call me silly but there's less ice cover in 2011 than there was in 2006. That ain't growth.

[slim 1,525]

Oh, I get it now. There's less ice today than there was during the median ice age. What year was that?

And.... did man cause that warming too?

[luckytxn 2,264]

Again, that's not what the study showed. It did show that there was less than anticipated glacier loss on the Himalayas but it also showed that there was significan glacier loss globally and that such glacier loss dis and does contribute to rising sea levels. There was no "all clear" coming from that study. Not even close. Gotta read past the headline to see that.

It did not at all. Better read the study again. It showed little loss to none at all. Good try though. We discussed this not even two weeks ago here.

Edited February 16, 2012 by luckytxn

[luckytxn 2,264]

Articles? Sure. I can find articles that say that Obama was born in Kenya. Still, today. That he's a Muslim. And a Communist. Not coincidentally, I can find those articles in the very same publications that will tell me that GW is a hoax. What do all of these articles have in common? Right, they are #######.

See, here is a visual for you on how the ice cap of the North Pole has been "growing".

2006

2011

Call me silly but there's less ice cover in 2011 than there was in 2006. That ain't growth.

As I said before thank God for the internet so we can disprove stupid #######.

An Inconvenient Truth: The Ice Cap Is Growing

A report from the US National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado finds that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007. But didn't we hear from the same Center that the North Pole was set to disappear by now? We all deserve apologies from the global warming fanatics who wanted to reshape the world in their image and called those who objected to their wild theories ignorant deniers. They were so convinced the world was ending and only they could save it, yet now they have been exposed as at best wildly idealistic and at worst frauds. They should have to do public penance for their hubris. I suggest they sit on blocks of melting ice and ponder their limitations. Either that or let the polar bears deal with them.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Oh, I get it now. There's less ice today than there was during the median ice age. What year was that?

And.... did man cause that warming too?

Might want to look again there Slim. The graphic shows there's less ice in 2011 than there was in 2006.