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Don't read if you haven't seen tonight's episode yet. Btw is this the finale or do we have one or two more to go??

What I don't get is that way back when the producers of this show stated that

the island is NOT pergatory. Well I guess from this you really can't say it is

*but* those who thought it was (like me) weren't too far off. Kinda freaky

though that it looks like Ben crossed over to the "dead people's side" and

killed all the living.

This whole episode gave me a huge brain cramp :wacko: ! :wacko:

12/28/06 - got married :)

02/05/07 - I-130 NOA1

02/21/07 - I-129 NOA1

04/09/07 - I-130 and I-129F approval email sent!!!!

04/26/07 - Packet 3 received

06/16/07 - Medical Examination

06/26/07 - Packet 3 SUBMITTED FINALLY!!!!

07/07/07 - Received pkt 4

07/22/07 - interview consular never bothered to show up for work.

07/29/07 - interview.

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And what about that guy- can't remember his name right now, he was talking to Ben as a child,does he not age on the Island?

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

I am SO confused. Then again I missed a bunch of episodes (you can't watch them online when you are outside of the US which SUCKS) and I never took the time to watch them when I came home.

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Adter reading Doodlebugs post- that theory does make sense. Maybe that is the reason he hasn't aged.

But then what about the others- who are Others? Some of them have died while the show has been on.

This show is show crazy!!

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Great episode. It a ggod to an insight into bens character and see some of his past.

I had figured that the

dharma initiative was no more but did not know who th others where. Ok still dont know who they are but i guess tthats something for season 4. That guy definitely doensnt age and what about mikhail - I know he said the fence wasn't turned up to a lethal level but i bet he did "die" and that that he was one of the original others.

I hope that the rumours are true and that they do only make another 2 or 3 seasons. The producers said that they were worried about alienating viewers if there was no end date given to keep people watching. I know that i might get bored in season 5 if i thought it might go ion for an unknown period but if i know it finishes 2 season down the line then i would stay hoooked.

Ps The others that have died so far may have been brought here since (like juliet) by the others. Exactly how many of the others are from the island and how many where brought there we don't know. See my point about Mikhail above.

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I don't think they're dead. I think they'll still have an explanation other than "purgatory", "dead people", etc.

Someone said they have a fountain of youth there, and that's why Richard still looks the same.

I have no idea what to think, really. I am very confused and very intrigued. It was fun finding out that the Others are not Dharma and that they wiped out everything. Btw, Ben was a janitor, so I bet he doesn't even know all that Dharma was actually doing in the island. Now why does Dharma keeps received food if they were wiped out and don't communicate with anyone anymore? Did Ben took over and they kept pretending to be still Dharma and working?

Now the big question is gonna be "Who are the "hostiles"?

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good stuff! :thumbs:

Ana and I are finally caught up! :yes:

Any idea on this "jacob" guy? :blink:

about the non aging... you aer refering to richard. but ben is aging. dunno.

Daniel

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July 23, 2005: Church wedding

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Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

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Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

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May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

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NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

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CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

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I think the non-aging thing might have something to do with the Dharma experiments.. I think they were trying to find cures for a bunch of stuff etc... or maybe there is a fountain of youth or something on the island...

they have made reference to Jacob before now...

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I think the non-aging thing might have something to do with the Dharma experiments.. I think they were trying to find cures for a bunch of stuff etc... or maybe there is a fountain of youth or something on the island...

they have made reference to Jacob before now...

and who the heck are the 'hostiles'? i thoguht the guy that little Ben ran into when he ran into the forest looking for his mom, is the current 'richard' (i think) .. the guy that handed the red folder containing sawyer's info to locke.

i don't recall hearing a 'jacob' before.... i think i missed one episode. hmmm

then that french woman,,, just camly walked in, grabbed a box of unstable dynamite whilst locke locked sawyer up with locke's dad.... and just waltzes out with that box. must be heck uva lot of dynamite there inthat ship. she blew up her pad in an earlier episode.

yeah, sure glad they have an end in sight and hopefully they will explain a lot of stuffif not all. :yes:

Daniel

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Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

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K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

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CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

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I try to relax and just watch the show- trying to figure it out gives me a headache!!!

There is so much craziness, I love it!

oooh really? i never did think if say a newbie could jump in and enjoy it.

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

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I try to relax and just watch the show- trying to figure it out gives me a headache!!!

There is so much craziness, I love it!

oooh really? i never did think if say a newbie could jump in and enjoy it.

Daniel

:energetic:

My mom and sister were into it from when it started. I would watch a few minutes here and there- I thought it was a dumb show!

My sister bought seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, I finally sat down and watched it from the beginning. I was hooked!

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I try to relax and just watch the show- trying to figure it out gives me a headache!!!

There is so much craziness, I love it!

oooh really? i never did think if say a newbie could jump in and enjoy it.

Daniel

:energetic:

My mom and sister were into it from when it started. I would watch a few minutes here and there- I thought it was a dumb show!

My sister bought seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, I finally sat down and watched it from the beginning. I was hooked!

ahhh that 'splains it. so you really do need to watch it from the begining.

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

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I try to relax and just watch the show- trying to figure it out gives me a headache!!!

There is so much craziness, I love it!

oooh really? i never did think if say a newbie could jump in and enjoy it.

Daniel

:energetic:

My mom and sister were into it from when it started. I would watch a few minutes here and there- I thought it was a dumb show!

My sister bought seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, I finally sat down and watched it from the beginning. I was hooked!

ahhh that 'splains it. so you really do need to watch it from the begining.

Daniel

:energetic:

Try it- I think you will hooked from episode 1!

My mom used to get so mad at me at all the questions:

"Why is there a Polar Bear?"

"Why do they have to keep pushing that button?"

"Who is that?"

"How did they crash?"

"Why do you watch this stupid show?"

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I try to relax and just watch the show- trying to figure it out gives me a headache!!!

There is so much craziness, I love it!

oooh really? i never did think if say a newbie could jump in and enjoy it.

Daniel

:energetic:

My mom and sister were into it from when it started. I would watch a few minutes here and there- I thought it was a dumb show!

My sister bought seasons 1 and 2 on DVD, I finally sat down and watched it from the beginning. I was hooked!

ahhh that 'splains it. so you really do need to watch it from the begining.

Daniel

:energetic:

Try it- I think you will hooked from episode 1!

My mom used to get so mad at me at all the questions:

"Why is there a Polar Bear?"

"Why do they have to keep pushing that button?"

"Who is that?"

"How did they crash?"

"Why do you watch this stupid show?"

ooohhh i've watched since day one. :yes: you got me wunderin if it was possible for a newbie to enjoy the show. don't look like it.

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

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and who the heck are the 'hostiles'? i thoguht the guy that little Ben ran into when he ran into the forest looking for his mom, is the current 'richard' (i think) .. the guy that handed the red folder containing sawyer's info to locke.

yeah, that is the same Richard.....

the hostiles are the Others that the Losties are "fighting" against...

I think they are the original inhabitants of the island...

Jacob has been mentioned a few times.... maybe not the name Jacob but there have been a bunch of references to him

Jacob, previously known only as "Him", is the apparent leader of the Others and the person from whom Ben receives his orders. According to Ben no-one else speaks to Jacob, neither does anyone else know where Jacob is. He lives in a dilapidated-looking cabin somewhere close to the mass grave in the jungle, which is surrounded by a perimeter of what appears to be some sort of dust or powder. The exact identity of Jacob is currently unknown.

According to Ben, Jacob can cure cancer as mentioned in "One of Us". It's safe to assume that Jacob is responsible for the creation of the lists, and deciding who are "good people", as Danny Pickett states Jack wasn't on Jacob's list in"I Do".

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Jacob

Mentions and appearances

* He was first mentioned by name by Danny Pickett in "I Do". According to Danny, Jack "wasn't even on Jacob's list."

* In "Maternity Leave", Tom said "You know what he'll do when he finds out," implying that "he" is above both Tom and Ethan Rom in the Others' hierarchy.

* Ben states in "Dave", "If I tell you about them, you don't know what he'll do!" and when threatened by Sayid, says "He'll kill me!" to which Sayid responds, "I'll kill you!". Since Ben still doesn't give an answer, it most likely means that he would rather die than disappoint "him". Ben also says that "the man with the beard" is "no one", implying that "he" is much higher in the Others' hierarchy.

* In "Two for the Road", he says that "he" is "a great man, a brilliant man, but not a forgiving man, and would kill him for failing his mission".

* He was mentioned in "Par Avion" by Mikhail Bakunin, who said, "The man who brought me here, who brought all of my people here—He is a magnificent man."

* Ben said that Jacob would heal Rachel's cancer if Juliet agreed to stay on the Island in "One of Us".

* The name Jacob is also visible in the Room 23 video watched by Karl in the episode, "Not in Portland", where a title says "God loves you as He loved Jacob". In "Stranger in a Strange Land", when Sawyer and Kate are discussing returning to Hydra Island, Karl says "He'll kill you. God loves you as he loved Jacob".

* Jacob was confirmed to be "him" In the 3/20/07 Official Lost Podcast.

* Ben takes Locke to see Jacob in "The Man Behind the Curtain". Speaking to Locke, Ben says of Jacob, "You wanted the secrets of the Island, well here they are. This is the man who can answer every single..."

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