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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Brazil
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I wouldn't worry about your holes since no where on the applciation or instructions does it say not to put holes or staples. Although it's probably good advice for the rest of us not to do that.

Quick question though: on the thread about the ROC application being denied all of the responses were saying that ANYTIME you send anything to USCIS you should get signature confirmation because that way you have a name of who is liable if something goes missing. I know in that thread the poster said they sent back the RFE docs, but USCIS has no record of receiving it. So which is, ask for signature or not? Or, if you file at the beginning of your 90 day window you should ask for signature, but if you file at the end and can't spare a day, you shouldn't?

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October 12, 2017 --Electronically filed

October 13, 2017 --NOA1

October 31, 2017 --Biometrics Appointment -ATL

ROC

April 5, 2012 --Sent I-751 to Vermont Service Center

May 21, 2012 --Biometric Appointment at ATL office

December 12, 2012 --10 year Green Card in hand

DCF Process

October 10, 2009 --Married in São Paulo

January 14, 2010 --Filed I-130 at São Paulo Consulate for DCF

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I wouldn't worry about your holes since no where on the applciation or instructions does it say not to put holes or staples. Although it's probably good advice for the rest of us not to do that.

Quick question though: on the thread about the ROC application being denied all of the responses were saying that ANYTIME you send anything to USCIS you should get signature confirmation because that way you have a name of who is liable if something goes missing. I know in that thread the poster said they sent back the RFE docs, but USCIS has no record of receiving it. So which is, ask for signature or not? Or, if you file at the beginning of your 90 day window you should ask for signature, but if you file at the end and can't spare a day, you shouldn't?

Love your wedding pics! I had to comment though because your middle pic made me laugh...thought you were giving another finger :lol: And your hubby looks a bit like Nick Lachey in the middle pic too!

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08/15/09- Wedding

10/16/09- Mailed out AOS package

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01/23/10- Conditional Green Card received!

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10/17/11- Mailed ROC package

10/19/11- Package arrives at VSC

10/20/11- NOA1 issued

10/24/11- "Touch"

10/24/11- Check cashed

10/26/11- NOA1 received

11/23/11- Biometrics appointment

01/14/12- Conditional GC Expired

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Love your wedding pics! I had to comment though because your middle pic made me laugh...thought you were giving another finger :lol: And your hubby looks a bit like Nick Lachey in the middle pic too!

:lol: thanks! That pic is one of my hubby's favorites from the day. It was his FB pic FOREVER!!! And I assume this Nick Lackey character is handsome, so thanks! :P

N-400 Naturalization Process

June 25, 2013 --Qualified for Citizenship!

October 12, 2017 --Electronically filed

October 13, 2017 --NOA1

October 31, 2017 --Biometrics Appointment -ATL

ROC

April 5, 2012 --Sent I-751 to Vermont Service Center

May 21, 2012 --Biometric Appointment at ATL office

December 12, 2012 --10 year Green Card in hand

DCF Process

October 10, 2009 --Married in São Paulo

January 14, 2010 --Filed I-130 at São Paulo Consulate for DCF

May 17, 2010 --VISA IN HAND!

June 24, 2010 --POE in Atlanta

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I wouldn't worry about your holes since no where on the applciation or instructions does it say not to put holes or staples. Although it's probably good advice for the rest of us not to do that.

Quick question though: on the thread about the ROC application being denied all of the responses were saying that ANYTIME you send anything to USCIS you should get signature confirmation because that way you have a name of who is liable if something goes missing. I know in that thread the poster said they sent back the RFE docs, but USCIS has no record of receiving it. So which is, ask for signature or not? Or, if you file at the beginning of your 90 day window you should ask for signature, but if you file at the end and can't spare a day, you shouldn't?

Whoever says "the signature confirmation delays the receipt of your applications", I dare them to show evidence because it does not. The express mail with a signature confirmation is guaranteed delivery, no delays at all.

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Thanks Angus!! Since we plan on filing at the very beginning of our 90 day window, it won't matter if it does get delayed a day or two anyway! I'd rather have a name where I can say, "so and so signed for it, so I know you received it" and wait a day or two more, than the alternative! :wacko:

N-400 Naturalization Process

June 25, 2013 --Qualified for Citizenship!

October 12, 2017 --Electronically filed

October 13, 2017 --NOA1

October 31, 2017 --Biometrics Appointment -ATL

ROC

April 5, 2012 --Sent I-751 to Vermont Service Center

May 21, 2012 --Biometric Appointment at ATL office

December 12, 2012 --10 year Green Card in hand

DCF Process

October 10, 2009 --Married in São Paulo

January 14, 2010 --Filed I-130 at São Paulo Consulate for DCF

May 17, 2010 --VISA IN HAND!

June 24, 2010 --POE in Atlanta

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In my experience of the American bureaucracy system, Including social security people (I will spare you the nightmare of 4 visits to the local "SS" office on a K-1 Visa to get my ssn). Keeping things as simple as possible has always worked well for us.

I'm sure the office has to handle thousands of these applications every month so keeping it as clear, simple and concise as possible will help avoid silly admin blunders. :)

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Whoever says "the signature confirmation delays the receipt of your applications", I dare them to show evidence because it does not. The express mail with a signature confirmation is guaranteed delivery, no delays at all.

You obviously don't understand how signature confirmation and post office boxes interrelate. The post office guarantees no delays in delivery. They cannot and will not be held responsible for the availability of the recipient to take delivery. If you require a signature, the recipient must take delivery in person. When you send something to a post office box and you've required the post office to obtain signature confirmation, they cannot simply deliver the item to the post office box. Instead, the post office leaves a notice in the box stating that the recipient has a mailpiece that requires a signature. The recipient must then pick up that mailpiece and sign for it.

Now think about this for a minute. The USCIS service centers receive hundreds if not thousands of mailpieces every day. If someone at the post office thinks to notify the person picking up the USCIS service center mail that there are signature-required pieces waiting, they may not lose a day. But this assumes that both USPS and USCIS are on the ball. We're talking about two government agencies here. Seriously.

So if the postal clek doesn't tell the USCIS person that there are signature-required pieces waiting, then the mail just gets taken out of the PO box and back to the service center for sorting. In that case, they won't realize they have signature-required pieces back at the post office until they've started sorting the mail from the PO box and put aside the notices. Then their options are either to go BACK to the post office that day or (more likely) pick up the items the next day. Voila, there's your lost day—"guaranteed delivery, no delays at all" notwithstanding.

Improved USCIS Form G-325A (Biographic Information)

Form field input font changed to allow entry of dates in the specified format and to provide more space for addresses and employment history. This is the 6/12/09 version of the form; the current version is 8/8/11, but previous versions are accepted per the USCIS forms page.

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It can be more onerous than that. The mail can be delivered to the lock box, or mailbox, several times a day, and picked up after hours, for processing overnight. Meanwhile, the items requiring a signature, and sent by means other than USPS, go to a separate location, where each piece is received by a live body during business hours. If that person is not available, a notice is left, for either when a new attempt will be made, usually the next business day, or where the piece may be collected, usually back at the Post Office. For express and priority mail requiring a signature, you will often get the status, "Person not available for signature."

Meanwhile, once the piece is received, it will take months to process anyways, so whether it got there in one day, or two, and whether it was picked up on Friday evening, or on Tuesday morning, really won't affect the processing time significantly.

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So if the postal clek doesn't tell the USCIS person that there are signature-required pieces waiting, then the mail just gets taken out of the PO box and back to the service center for sorting. In that case, they won't realize they have signature-required pieces back at the post office until they've started sorting the mail from the PO box and put aside the notices. Then their options are either to go BACK to the post office that day or (more likely) pick up the items the next day. Voila, there's your lost day—"guaranteed delivery, no delays at all" notwithstanding.

I see your point and I'm not necessary arguing for "signature required", but like you said, USCIS gets hundreds of mail pieces everyday. I'm willing to bet a good 25% of those require signatures. That being said, I bet they routinely check on that and sign for things like that, whether USPS tells them to or not.

N-400 Naturalization Process

June 25, 2013 --Qualified for Citizenship!

October 12, 2017 --Electronically filed

October 13, 2017 --NOA1

October 31, 2017 --Biometrics Appointment -ATL

ROC

April 5, 2012 --Sent I-751 to Vermont Service Center

May 21, 2012 --Biometric Appointment at ATL office

December 12, 2012 --10 year Green Card in hand

DCF Process

October 10, 2009 --Married in São Paulo

January 14, 2010 --Filed I-130 at São Paulo Consulate for DCF

May 17, 2010 --VISA IN HAND!

June 24, 2010 --POE in Atlanta

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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I just got my husband's petition in the mail today. I used the ACCO fasteners with 2 hole punched in the top. The file was a good 1/2 " thick. I made sure to put the exact order of the paperwork that I had listed on the cover letter so that way it didn't look too busy but yet efficient.

After doing research and talking to our local post office workers, I used the priority mail envelope and certified mail receipt. There is the track and confirmation section on the website and plus I used email option of notification. We will see if there is any delays.

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Check cashed: 02/24/2012
NOA received dated for: 02/22/2012
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RFE:
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RFE Response Confirmed: 11/16/2012
Interview at Orlando office: 02/13/2013

2nd RFE!!: 10/03/13

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Uh OH, I stapled mine headbonk.gif

Not the entire thing but a few items that belonged together (bank statements, lease agreement, etc) for the I-751...received NOA and biometrics letter allready however so I assume they were able to overcome (although my petition did take longer than others in the same filing group!

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Well, I took the advice of people on here and sent my application by Express Mail, and I specifically asked the postal clerk to make sure that NO signature would be required on delivery. If my memory serves me correctly, I even checked a box waiving the need for a signature. Despite this, my package was delivered to the USCIS at 12:31 p.m. in Vermont on Valentine's Day AND was signed for by a Mr. Dan Renaud. :-(.

I'm just happy that it got there on time.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

AUGUST 10 2004 - Arrived in Austin, TX with F-1 student visa status.

EARLY JAN/FEB 2008 - Met Michael (my future husband) in the café where he works.

APRIL 12 2008 - We go on our first date. It lasted 2 days!

APRIL 13 2009 - Got married in Marfa, TX, in the middle of the West Texan desert.

NOVEMBER 4 2009 - Finally saved up enough money to send off I-130; I-485; I-131; I-765.

NOVEMBER 5 2009 - Package arrived at the Chicago Lockbox at 9:32 a.m! Signed for by A. Analakis. [DAY 1]

NOVEMBER 12 2009 - Cheques for I-485 and I-130 are finally cashed! [DAY 8]

NOVEMBER 12 2009 - I-485, I-130, I-1765 & I-131 are all "touched"! [DAY 8]

NOVEMBER 13 2009 - Received NOA's for I-485, I-130, I-765 & I-131 (Notice date - November 10th 2009).[DAY 9]

NOVEMBER 16 2009 - All forms were "touched" again. [DAY 12]

NOVEMBER 23 2009 - Received biometrics appointment letter (scheduled for December 14th 2009) [DAY 19]

NOVEMBER 24 2009 - Walk-in biometrics appointment in Austin ASC [DAY 20]

NOVEMBER 24 2009 - All forms were "touched" [DAY 20]

NOVEMBER 25 2009 - All forms were "touched" [DAY 21]

DECEMBER 28 2009 - Received AP approval letter, dated December 23. Received a text & email, too [DAY 54]

DECEMBER 29 2009 - Received email & text, saying EAD is approved; card production ordered. [DAY 55]

DECEMBER 31 2009 - Received AP document. [DAY 57]

JANUARY 2 2010 - Received EAD & interview letter (interview will be 02/16/10, San Antonio). [DAY 59]

FEBRUARY 16 2010 - Approved at interview! I-551 stamp in passport. [DAY 104]

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