Catholic League Poised To Go To War With Obama Over Mandatory Birth Control Payments

[Danno 1,228]

Makes no difference. When an order during mass is issued it taken very seriously. Now each congregant can sin and go to confession to have their sins taken away but to attack the church itself is a whole new ball game. I know many Catholics and quite a few break a rule now and again and think nothing of it. They are also Socialists but they will not abide the church being attacked in any way. Now go ahead an keep posting theologians so we can laugh because it matters not one whit what they say. The Pope is infallible what he says goes. The Church can't offer any Contraceptives or Abortions at all. They CAN'T.

Now go ahead and post something else from a nobody so we can keep repeating this. The Church CAN'T do it. Now they could pay the penalty that will reach in the millions and just not offer it. They can sell all their services. They can just shut down all their hospitals and devastate the health care industry. I assure you that Catholic services will not offer this.

Now please post more Theologians take on this.

The Pope needs a laugh.

Perhaps you misspoke, the Pope is not considered Infallible, Certain teachings are.

The Pope very rarely proclaims such teachings the last one was in the 50's.

According to Catholic belief the Pope resided in the office Christ singled St. Matthew with according to this account.:

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? …And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.[/b]

The position of pope has been the most stable authority in all this time, Gov'ts, countries and rulers come and go but the office of the Pope has stood for all these centuries.... pretty profound really.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

History appears to be proving the Church correct on this one.

Really? So back to infanticide as a means of family planning? Is that what you're advocating?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Makes no difference. When an order during mass is issued it taken very seriously. Now each congregant can sin and go to confession to have their sins taken away but to attack the church itself is a whole new ball game. I know many Catholics and quite a few break a rule now and again and think nothing of it.

So, they take it seriously and then go home, pop that pill or put on that condom anyways? That would suggest that they're not taking the order seriously. Face it, Catholics are a diverse group of people and ever more of them live their life as most of us do. They don't follow orders. A few of them may but by and large, the evidence points into a different direction.

[Danno 1,228]

Really? So back to infanticide as a means of family planning? Is that what you're advocating?

-The Catholic Church approves of some methods of Birth control.

-What does infanticide have to do with it, last time I checked this was the technic used to finish late term abortions which made it out alive.

-DO you deny the death spiral many formerly Catholic Countries are in, name one in Europe that is not... I think Greenland or ice land is the only one at replacement level.

several are beyond return.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

-What does infanticide have to do with it,...

Thanks for confirming that you dismissed the expert article w/o even bothering to read it.

[luckytxn 2,265]

[luckytxn 2,265]

Makes no difference that some Catholics don't toe the line. They can go to confession. Catholics will though band together if the church is threatened. Especially when the Catholics came out for Obamacare and Obama promised them that they would not be forced to provide services that goes against the churches tenets. This was a huge stab in the back.

[luckytxn 2,265]