Greencard for a gay partner???

[Penny Lane 8,159]

This opens a can of worms for immigration fraud, anyone can claim they are partners and file for immigration.

Would be very difficult for immigration to validate the relation is real, other countries will also have to issue a same sex marriage certificate, which means all the countries around world will have to recognize same sex marriage.

Heterosexual couples can (and do) commit immigration fraud just as easily.

Why would it be difficult for same sex partners to prove the validity of their relationship? How is it different?

Edited February 7, 2012 by Coconuts

[HuffyTheSlayer 22]

I don't see how it's different from hetero couples. They would still have to prove the validity of their relationship just like hetero couples.

Agreed, Up and Away.

As for Harsh_77, while I would hope that the US acknowledging same-sex marriage on a federal level (and therefore opening up immigration options for them) would also encourage other countries to recognise same sex marriage. If the foreign partner is from a country that doesn't allow/acknowledge same-sex marriage there would still be a pathway for them to join their USC partner through the K-1 Fiance visa. We can't force other countries to recognise it of course, so some couples would be unable to apply for a spousal visa unless the partner came to the US beforehand, married and returned to their home country. Or if they got married in a third country which performed gay marriages and then applied through their home countries consulate. A bit of a hassle for sure, but obviously the US does not govern other countries laws. The most important thing would be that USC that are in same-sex relationships would finally be receiving the same rights that hetero couples already receive.

Edited February 8, 2012 by HuffyTheSlayer

[S and R 8]

Hi all!!!

I have a very special question someone asked me and I did not know what to answer

There is a couple, one is from Chile, the other one is US citizen. The american guy studied his career down there in Chile, they met each other there, fell inlove and now they have a long-distance relationship. The chilean guy lives in Chile and the american guy, moved here last year when he finished his career. The chilean guy just got here with a Tourist visa, he leaves next month. They want to know... (apparently relationship is getting stronger, both met already the inlaws lol) if there is anyway the chilean guy can move here to USA, when the chilean guy finishes his career of course to get married etc. Is there anyway a gay couple can do this process or not? I know there are some states where Gay Marriages are legal. Any advices???

B-)

Thank you!!!!

One of them can move here, to Australia, as a skilled immigrant ( the economy never collapsed and more people are needed), then sponsor the partner. There is no need for them to get married - only have to claim emotional dependency - thats the name of the visa too - E D Visa....lol.

[Boiler 45,527]

Presumably they have TV in Australia as well.

I can see only one problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA

Rules 1, 3, 5 and 7.

[IPv6Freely 64]

It's unfortunate that such a modern nation is so far behind in human rights... it's stuff like this that sometimes makes me question how much I actually want to be a US citizen....

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

It's unfortunate that such a modern nation is so far behind in human rights... it's stuff like this that sometimes makes me question how much I actually want to be a US citizen....

Living in any democratic republic means accepting that there will always be people who don't agree with your point of view. Laws are often based on the prevailing views of the majority. Those views often change over time. Becoming a citizen should be based on whether you agree with the principles on which the system of government is founded, and not on whether everyone in the country has the same viewpoint you have.

You seem to be saying that you would prefer if the United States created the utopian society you want before you'll consider becoming a citizen. Maybe a better way to look at it is that if you become a citizen then you can participate in creating that utopian society yourself. An individual US citizen doesn't have much influence, but their vote counts as much as any other citizen's vote. It would seem to me to be worse if I had to spend my life in the US a lawful resident, and I was powerless to express my opinion except on internet forums.

[Boiler 45,527]

Move back to Canada?