While temperatures rise, denialists reach lower

[웃 910]

While temperatures rise, denialists reach lower

Over the weekend, two amazingly bad articles were published about climate change. Both were loaded with mistakes, misinterpretations, and outright misinformation, and are simply so factually wrong that they almost read like parodies.

Just so we’re clear here.

The first was in the Wall Street Journal. The article, called No Need to Panic About Global Warming, is a textbook example of misleading prose. It’s laden to bursting with factual errors, but the one that stood out to me most was this whopper: "Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now."

What the what?

That statement, to put it bluntly, is dead wrong. It relies on blatantly misinterpreting long term trends, instead wearing blinders and only looking at year-to-year variations in temperature. The Skeptical Science website destroyed this argument in November 2011, in fact. The OpEd also ignores the fact that nine of the ten hottest years on record all occurred since the year 2000.



The WSJ OpEd makes a lot of hay from having 16 scientists sign it, but of those only 4 are actually climate scientists. And that bragging right is crushed to dust when you find out that the WSJ turned down an article about the reality of global warming that was signed by 255 actual climate scientists. In fact, as Media Matters reports, more of the signers of the WSJ OpEd have ties to oil interests than actually publish peer-reviewed climate research.

Shame on the WSJ for publishing that nonsense.

When I read it, I thought that OpEd was really scraping the bottom of the barrel. But then the Daily Mail chimed in and I discovered that barrel gets a lot deeper. They printed an article by David Rose called Forget global warming — it’s Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again).

By "Cycle 25" he’s referring to the solar activity cycle — which I’ll get to in a moment. But first, the most egregiously awful thing about the Mail article is the angle it takes on new results released by The Met Office, the National Weather Service for the UK. The subheadline for the Mail article is "Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years", which is a bit odd given that the very first two paragraphs of the Met’s press release say:

2012 is expected to be around 0.48 °C warmer than the long-term (1961-1990) global average of 14.0 °C, with a predicted likely range of between 0.34 °C and 0.62 °C, according to the Met Office annual global temperature forecast.

The middle of this range

would place 2012 within the top 10 warmest years

in a series which goes back to 1850.

[Emphasis mine, but done for obvious reasons.]

If you can square that with "new figures… show no warming" then congrats! You can write for the Mail.

The article is so fallacious that the Met offices decided to publish another release stating clearly that the Mail article "includes numerous errors", is "misleading", and that the author chose "… to not fully include the answers we gave him".

And we’re not done. A big part of Rose’s Mail article talks about the Sun’s influence on climate. However, the solar activity cycle is something which has been shown over and again to have very little to do with climate, and is certainly not anywhere near the main driver of climate change.

The Mail article bases its argument on some research that may indicate the Sun will enter a quiet period after this next peak, and that will cool the Earth. First, the research is by no means anywhere near verified, and in fact at least one well-respected solar physicist doesn’t agree with the findings (I think he’s right; the work is interesting but very, very preliminary). Second, even if it’s true, there’s no reason to think it will cause an ice age as the Mail article attests; that takes many factors occurring all at once. Also, the Little Ice Age — a cold period during the 17th and 18th centuries — was not a global effect; it only affected Europe. It also coincided with several large volcanic events that helped drive it. I explain all that in the link above.

So where does Rose get this idea that the Sun will cool us down? From another Met Office release. And guess what? Again, that release states in the first paragraph the exact opposite of what Rose claims:

New research has found that solar output is likely to reduce over the next 90 years but that will not substantially delay expected increases in global temperatures caused by greenhouse gases.

Amazing, isn’t it?

Happily, the cavalry has ridden in; the reality-based community has come out swinging against these two articles:

- Andrew Revkin at The New York Times

- The Intersection

- Get Energy Smart Now

- DeSmogBlog

- Planet3.0

- Anti climate change extremism in Utah

- Greg Laden

- Climate scientist Michael Mann has been tweeting furiously about it, too.

[update: more for you:

- The Environmental Defense Fund

- Scholars and Rogues (specifically taking on Burt Rutan, one of the 16 signers of the WSJ OpEd; Rutan replies in the comments)]

In the head-asplodey irony department, how do you think the editors at the WSJ feel that their OpEd was reprinted in The Tehran Times?

It’s rare to be 100% certain of something in science, but I have no doubt at all that the comments to this post will be filled with noise from denialists. It happens every single time I post about this, and they almost always use long-debunked arguments. But as these attacks on reality get more brazen, we have to be ever more alert.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/30/while-temperatures-rise-denialists-reach-lower/

[Obama 2012 1,714]

You and Steven should do a mass kool-aid suicide gathering to stop your CO2 emissions. I mean you claim to care, yet are such hypocrites in the process.

[웃 910]

You and Steven should do a mass kool-aid suicide gathering to stop your CO2 emissions. I mean you claim to care, yet are such hypocrites in the process.

I don't care. Steven does.

But I am not SO IGNORANT to believe I know more than a professional scientist that has dedicated his life to obsessing over the theory.

Do you deny gravity? Evolution?

The right wing propaganda machine has indoctrinated you (and millions like you) into believing that it is a hoax.

[slim 1,530]

"But we have data for the last 10 years!"

[^_^ 5,021]

Gravity is how they get you. They tell young minds they can not fly and we really can't fly because our minds won't let us. Try and gravity monster will pull you down and kill you, our minds tell us. So we don't try. And those of us that do soon realize that without the mind we are nothing. We jump and our mind tells us... gravity exists. And down we go to certain death, our blood and flesh splattered all over a city sidewalk in yet another unnecessary death brought to you by the azzholes we call scientists.

And once our minds believe gravity, getting us to believe the rest is easy. We're already trained to believe.

[웃 910]

"But we have data for the last 10 years!"

It's really an embarrassment to society for people like you (and me too) to be critiquing what scientists with PhDs in hard sciences have unanimously come to accept about climate change.

Do you deny that there is gravity? That the earth is 4.55 billion years old? That the dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago? That we share a common ancestor with an ape!

Edited January 31, 2012 by ☠

[luckytxn 2,265]

While temperatures rise, denialists reach lower

Over the weekend, two amazingly bad articles were published about climate change. Both were loaded with mistakes, misinterpretations, and outright misinformation, and are simply so factually wrong that they almost read like parodies.

Just so we're clear here.

The first was in the Wall Street Journal. The article, called No Need to Panic About Global Warming, is a textbook example of misleading prose. It's laden to bursting with factual errors, but the one that stood out to me most was this whopper: "Perhaps the most inconvenient fact is the lack of global warming for well over 10 years now."

What the what?

That statement, to put it bluntly, is dead wrong. It relies on blatantly misinterpreting long term trends, instead wearing blinders and only looking at year-to-year variations in temperature. The Skeptical Science website destroyed this argument in November 2011, in fact. The OpEd also ignores the fact that nine of the ten hottest years on record all occurred since the year 2000.



The WSJ OpEd makes a lot of hay from having 16 scientists sign it, but of those only 4 are actually climate scientists. And that bragging right is crushed to dust when you find out that the WSJ turned down an article about the reality of global warming that was signed by 255 actual climate scientists. In fact, as Media Matters reports, more of the signers of the WSJ OpEd have ties to oil interests than actually publish peer-reviewed climate research.

Shame on the WSJ for publishing that nonsense.

When I read it, I thought that OpEd was really scraping the bottom of the barrel. But then the Daily Mail chimed in and I discovered that barrel gets a lot deeper. They printed an article by David Rose called Forget global warming — it's Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again).

By "Cycle 25" he's referring to the solar activity cycle — which I'll get to in a moment. But first, the most egregiously awful thing about the Mail article is the angle it takes on new results released by The Met Office, the National Weather Service for the UK. The subheadline for the Mail article is "Met Office releases new figures which show no warming in 15 years", which is a bit odd given that the very first two paragraphs of the Met's press release say:

2012 is expected to be around 0.48 °C warmer than the long-term (1961-1990) global average of 14.0 °C, with a predicted likely range of between 0.34 °C and 0.62 °C, according to the Met Office annual global temperature forecast.

The middle of this range

would place 2012 within the top 10 warmest years

in a series which goes back to 1850.

[Emphasis mine, but done for obvious reasons.]

If you can square that with "new figures… show no warming" then congrats! You can write for the Mail.

The article is so fallacious that the Met offices decided to publish another release stating clearly that the Mail article "includes numerous errors", is "misleading", and that the author chose "… to not fully include the answers we gave him".

And we're not done. A big part of Rose's Mail article talks about the Sun's influence on climate. However, the solar activity cycle is something which has been shown over and again to have very little to do with climate, and is certainly not anywhere near the main driver of climate change.

The Mail article bases its argument on some research that may indicate the Sun will enter a quiet period after this next peak, and that will cool the Earth. First, the research is by no means anywhere near verified, and in fact at least one well-respected solar physicist doesn't agree with the findings (I think he's right; the work is interesting but very, very preliminary). Second, even if it's true, there's no reason to think it will cause an ice age as the Mail article attests; that takes many factors occurring all at once. Also, the Little Ice Age — a cold period during the 17th and 18th centuries — was not a global effect; it only affected Europe. It also coincided with several large volcanic events that helped drive it. I explain all that in the link above.

So where does Rose get this idea that the Sun will cool us down? From another Met Office release. And guess what? Again, that release states in the first paragraph the exact opposite of what Rose claims:

New research has found that solar output is likely to reduce over the next 90 years but that will not substantially delay expected increases in global temperatures caused by greenhouse gases.

Amazing, isn't it?

Happily, the cavalry has ridden in; the reality-based community has come out swinging against these two articles:

- Andrew Revkin at The New York Times

- The Intersection

- Get Energy Smart Now

- DeSmogBlog

- Planet3.0

- Anti climate change extremism in Utah

- Greg Laden

- Climate scientist Michael Mann has been tweeting furiously about it, too.

[update: more for you:

- The Environmental Defense Fund

- Scholars and Rogues (specifically taking on Burt Rutan, one of the 16 signers of the WSJ OpEd; Rutan replies in the comments)]

In the head-asplodey irony department, how do you think the editors at the WSJ feel that their OpEd was reprinted in The Tehran Times?

It's rare to be 100% certain of something in science, but I have no doubt at all that the comments to this post will be filled with noise from denialists. It happens every single time I post about this, and they almost always use long-debunked arguments. But as these attacks on reality get more brazen, we have to be ever more alert.

http://blogs.discove...ts-reach-lower/

Hard to believe that there are so many morons that can be taken by the GW fraud.

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It's really an embarrassment to society for people like you (and me too) to be critiquing what scientists with PhDs in hard sciences have unanimously come to accept about climate change.

Do you deny that there is gravity? That the earth is 4.55 billion years old? That the dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago? That we share a common ancestor with an ape!

This is one of a myriad of reasons that fewer people are taking shrill voices like yours seriously. "Unanimously come to accept ".....Really? Do you believe this because you look only for opinion that supports your closed-minded views on the subject? Or is the deceptive language intentional....hmmmm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html

[웃 910]

This is one of a myriad of reasons that fewer people are taking shrill voices like yours seriously. "Unanimously come to accept ".....Really? Do you believe this because you look only for opinion that supports your closed-minded views on the subject? Or is the deceptive language intentional....hmmmm

http://online.wsj.co...5076157449.html

Why are you posting articles from June 2009?

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Why are you posting articles from June 2009?

To demonstrate what the rest of us have known for a long time already. There is no concencus on global warming. Gore and company's attempt to quash debate (by labeling anyone who disagreed as "denialists" just as you have done in this post), failed years ago.

The more important question here is....Why do you continue to use deceptive language when the myth of "concencus" was busted years ago?

[Dave&Roza 748]

It's really an embarrassment to society for people like you (and me too) to be critiquing what scientists with PhDs in hard sciences have unanimously come to accept about climate change.

Do you deny that there is gravity? That the earth is 4.55 billion years old? That the dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago? That we share a common ancestor with an ape!

That would be true if it was purely science with out the corruption of money. Once you throw money into the equation, people will make the data say what ever they want. I could find a graph that shows that the Earth over the last 1-2 millions years is actually cooling, but since the late 1800's it is in a slight warming period. So depending on what data you look at the Earth is warming as your graph shows or cooling as my graph would show. So which is it? I believe the Earth is warming currently. I donot believe HUMANS have any impact on it. We could be wiped off this lovely plant in the next month by some virus and it will continue its merry journey around the sun. As you mention the Dinosaurs are gone, but the Earth is still here. Same will happen when humans are gone.

I for one am enjoying the warmer weather.

Dave

Edited January 31, 2012 by Dave&Roza