Who would "choose" to be GAY?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Are you saying that you chose to be sexually attracted to women, Danno? It's not a natural inclination for you?

Yeah, Danno, why don't you like Guys? Are you sexist?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

YOu know what the issue is, this whole BS of all these Homosexuals being Born that way is absolutely not true.

Sexuality is a very complex thing, to believe that people have a switch left-right... gay-straight, is silly.

I have no interest in men but others might have an even greater aversion to it. Social conditioning overrides even natural impulses. The fact that so many people are monogamous is but one example.

There is no on-off switch for same sex attraction, we all have varying degrees of straight and Homosexual inclination.

This lady went off the reservation for saying what every homosexual knows but..... in order to keep the whole -civil rights..... Orientation thing going.... they keep up this simplistic idea that people are "born gay" as if there is no wide gray area.

So try a 3 way with your wife. FFM. You may find she likes it sometimes.

The only civil right I am worried about is "Stay the ** out of my bedroom!"

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

YOu know what the issue is, this whole BS of all these Homosexuals being Born that way is absolutely not true.

And you know that how? Because you're some sort of expert on the issue?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Suggesting homosexuality is caused by child abuse is offensive. Please remember that there are members on Visa Journey who have gay family members and such comments are both insulting and insensitive.

Scientific evidence indicates that homosexuality is not a 'choice', that it has a genetic link probably predicated by certain hormonal influences during pregnancy. This excerpt, while not from a scientific source, provides a good explanation for the author of the above articles experience:

http://www.redding.c...e-suggests-yes/

Homosexuality is not unique to humankind either. People are just one species among many, many, many that practice homosexuality: http://en.wikipedia....sexual_behavior

I seriously doubt that every single case of these homosexual animals was caused by molestation, failed parenting or associating with other homosexuals.

[skiptex 225]

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Homosexuality is not unique to humankind either. People are just one species among many, many, many that practice homosexuality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

HOw do we know that these animals don't simply choose to be gay? [/Danno]

[skiptex 225]

i am a lesbian trapped in mans body!

just like CHAZ BONO.. wait what?!

[TiklingGuy 211]

And you know that how? Because you're some sort of expert on the issue?

That can go the other way as well. Homosexuality is behavioral, not genetic. There has never been any breakthrough discovery from any medical scientist that a specific gene or cell causes you to be gay. To say a gay persons finger is small than straight people fingers is ridculious. What about smaller fingers on a straight person compared to a gay persons?

How can a medical scientist test the fluid in an embryonic sac for homosexuality? There is no such device that reads fluid to be gay fluid. Why do gangbangers sag their pants to their ankles and rob convenient stores? Not because of a gene or because of extra levels of thugness in their kidneys. Its behavioral plan and simple.

I have nothing against homosexuals. There are plenty of people at my job who are gay. I personally like every one of them because who they are as people. When i asked them why they live a gay life its because they said they enjoyed it. Some of them have children with the opposite sex prior to living a gay lifestyle. Behavioral therapy whether its spiritual or non spiritual can set gay people straight. There are thousands of cases of it happening.

http://nolongergay.blogspot.com/

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

That can go the other way as well. Homosexuality is behavioral, not genetic. There has never been any breakthrough discovery from any medical scientist that a specific gene or cell causes you to be gay. To say a gay persons finger is small than straight people fingers is ridculious. What about smaller fingers on a straight person compared to a gay persons?

How can a medical scientist test the fluid in an embryonic sac for homosexuality? There is no such device that reads fluid to be gay fluid. Why do gangbangers sag their pants to their ankles and rob convenient stores? Not because of a gene or because of extra levels of thugness in their kidneys. Its behavioral plan and simple.

I have nothing against homosexuals. There are plenty of people at my job who are gay. I personally like every one of them because who they are as people. When i asked them why they live a gay life its because they said they enjoyed it. Some of them have children with the opposite sex prior to living a gay lifestyle. Behavioral therapy whether its spiritual or non spiritual can set gay people straight. There are thousands of cases of it happening.

http://nolongergay.blogspot.com/

Who cares?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That can go the other way as well. Homosexuality is behavioral, not genetic.

Yes, that explains that there are countless species out there that somehow elect to live a homosexual lifestyle.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

YOu know what the issue is, this whole BS of all these Homosexuals being Born that way is absolutely not true.

Sexuality is a very complex thing, to believe that people have a switch left-right... gay-straight, is silly.

I have no interest in men but others might have an even greater aversion to it. Social conditioning overrides even natural impulses. The fact that so many people are monogamous is but one example.

There is no on-off switch for same sex attraction, we all have varying degrees of straight and Homosexual inclination.

This lady went off the reservation for saying what every homosexual knows but..... in order to keep the whole -civil rights..... Orientation thing going.... they keep up this simplistic idea that people are "born gay" as if there is no wide gray area.

Months since I've been on here and quelle surprise if the same lazy absolutist arguments aren't still on display.

I think some of you folks need to do some College courses or something, keep your minds sharp.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Who would "choose" to be GAY?

What's wrong with choosing to be happy?

[TiklingGuy 211]

Who cares?

Just trying to stay on topic. I know how you don't like it when people hijack threads.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/347229-i-surrender/

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Just trying to stay on topic. I know how you don't like it when people hijack threads.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/347229-i-surrender/

I was on topic. Who cares?

I don't care about hijacked threads either. I hijack them myself regularly. After page three in the RUB forum, anything goes!

I basically do not care about much at all if it does not affect my family in some adverse way. I do not see why anyone should have any influence over harmless fun in my bedroom between consenting adults.

Stay out of my bedroom and I will stay out of yours.

Edited January 25, 2012 by Gary and Alla

[Darnell 8,479]

If you read the article carefully, you'll see that Cynthia Nixon is saying that she was not born gay, she has chosen to be gay. That stance is very controversial among gays.

I understand the arguments for both 'streams' here, but in the end - it doesn't affect me one way or the other.