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[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It's very difficult to take anything Gary says seriously. He has been caught claiming to not be able to meet the fiscal requirements to sponsor an immigrant, then a short while later, independently wealthy enough to pay for a heart surgery out of pocket. He has also claimed that his ex-wife was a pain in the ####### and that he hated her, then he claimed that she died of cancer, and then just yesterday, Gary claims he was never married. So I think we all have trouble believing anything Gary posts.

Link to post where I said my wife died of cancer

Link to post where I said I was never married

Link to post where I said I could not meet the requirements to sponsor an immigrant

I DID say I was wealthy and paid for my surgery during a discussion of national healthcare in order to illicit a response, and got it. Thank you.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It wasn't that long ago and the thread was deleted by a mod.

And it was not deleted for what I said. I said in response to a very snarky post "WHAT IF after 21 years of marriage a person's spouse dies of cancer?"

That becomes "Gary says his wife died of cancer" ???? Seriously? And I have the problem with lying?

Funny how the person that gets the thread deleted and draws a heavy suspension for it becomes the hero and Gary is the liar.

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[Empress of Groovy 373]

Link to post where I said my wife died of cancer

Link to post where I said I was never married

Link to post where I said I could not meet the requirements to sponsor an immigrant

I DID say I was wealthy and paid for my surgery during a discussion of national healthcare in order to illicit a response, and got it. Thank you.

Recently you have made snide remarks regarding certain VJ members' marriages having ended. I thought that was a curious position to take for someone who was divorced himself, which was why I asked you about this yesterday. You clearly said you were never divorced. As you well know, those posts were deleted by a mod.

[tmma 467]

And it was not deleted for what I said. I said in response to a very snarky post "WHAT IF after 21 years of marriage a person's spouse dies of cancer?"

That becomes "Gary says his wife died of cancer" ???? Seriously? And I have the problem with lying?

Funny how the person that gets the thread deleted and draws a heavy suspension for it becomes the hero and Gary is the liar.

No. I was on that thread and it went like this.

YOU; snarking about someone elses failed marriage.

OTHER POSTER: Well you've had a failed marriage

YOU: My wife died of cancer after [XXXX] years of marriage.

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Gary, I have no reason to lie about this. You don't either. I don't know why you do.

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[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Recently you have made snide remarks regarding certain VJ members' marriages having ended. I thought that was a curious position to take for someone who was divorced himself, which was why I asked you about this yesterday. You clearly said you were never divorced. As you well know, those posts were deleted by a mod.

I did not ever say I was never married. You asked if I was "once divorced". I said no. That is true. Completely and positively true. 100% true.I cannot help it if you do not ask the right questions. I give truthful answers to the questions asked unlike the didges I usually get when asking questions about a topic.

I never said my wife died.

yes I have made snide remarks over the period I have been here. So what? Guilty of snide remarks.

No. I was on that thread and it went like this.

YOU; snarking about someone elses failed marriage.

OTHER POSTER: Well you've had a failed marriage

YOU: My wife died of cancer after [XXXX] years of marriage.

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Gary, I have no reason to lie about this. You don't either. I don't know why you do.

You are probably not lying but you are mistaken. That is not how I answered. I have no reason to lie either. What would the reason be? Profit perhaps?

[Empress of Groovy 373]

I did not ever say I was never married. You asked if I was "once divorced". I said no. That is true. Completely and positively true. 100% true.I cannot help it if you do not ask the right questions. I give truthful answers to the questions asked unlike the didges I usually get when asking questions about a topic.

I never said my wife died.

yes I have made snide remarks over the period I have been here. So what? Guilty of snide remarks.

I remember my wording. It was, "You were divorced at one time, right?" To which you replied, "No."

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

No. I was on that thread and it went like this.

YOU; snarking about someone elses failed marriage.

OTHER POSTER: Well you've had a failed marriage

YOU: My wife died of cancer after [XXXX] years of marriage.

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Gary, I have no reason to lie about this. You don't either. I don't know why you do.

besides, if I lie all the time there will be other references to it and someone will find it...won't they?

You read what you wanted to read, or what someone told you to read. Read carefully, interpret literally.

[Empress of Groovy 373]

I know you're just playing games, Gary. Perhaps the larger issue is that you've become mean spirited in a way that you weren't before.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I remember my wording. It was, "You were divorced at one time, right?" To which you replied, "No."

Your wording was "You were once divorced, yes?" NO. NO. I was not once divorced. I do not know how to be more clear about that and it is not a lie.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I know you're just playing games, Gary. Perhaps the larger issue is that you've become mean spirited in a way that you weren't before.

Perhaps then the issue is NOT that I am a liar. Am I a liar? Then produce the information. Am I mean spirited? Really? Who did I accuse of being a liar, even NOW I am not accusing you of being a liar. Or anyone else, but I am the mean spirited one?

I have over 19,000 posts on this site and about 15,000 of them are helping others with the immigration process. Mean spirited? Seriously? How may people who regularly post in the P&R forum also regularly post in the forums helping others? I especiallyalways go out of my way to help people with chiuldren because I know from experience that is hard to get information on since the process seems to be geared toward 20 somethings that met on the internet and not people with children. Yeah, Gary the meanie, helping kids and stuff

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[Empress of Groovy 373]

Perhaps then the issue is NOT that I am a liar. Am I a liar? Then produce the information. Am I mean spirited? Really? Who did I accuse of being a liar, even NOW I am not accusing you of being a liar. Or anyone else, but I am the mean spirited one?

I have over 19,000 posts on this site and about 15,000 of them are helping others with the immigration process. Mean spirited? Seriously? How may people who regularly post in the P&R forum also regularly post in the forums helping others?

Take it easy.

Mocking people whose marriages ended qualifies as mean spirited.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Take it easy.

Mocking people whose marriages ended qualifies as mean spirited.

then why call me a "liar" and not "mean spirited?" And how is it mocking someone to say when they speak about future events in a marriage "but you have to stay married first" especially when I have no idea if that member is married or not. Has that member said they were not married? You are the first to say he had a failed marriage that I am aware of, IF that is what you are saying. Hard to tell sometimes and I should not make assumptions. Sorry to hear that if it is the case, I never wish bad luck on anyone.

It seems like a LOT of assumptions are made regarding what I say and none of them are good. Why?

[Empress of Groovy 373]

then why call me a "liar" and not "mean spirited?" And how is it mocking someone to say when they speak about future events in a marriage "but you have to stay married first" especially when I have no idea if that member is married or not. Has that member said they were not married? You are the first to say he had a failed marriage that I am aware of, IF that is what you are saying. Hard to tell sometimes and I should not make assumptions. Sorry to hear that if it is the case, I never wish bad luck on anyone.

It seems like a LOT of assumptions are made regarding what I say and none of them are good. Why?

Actually, I was thinking more of a couple of female UK posters, not Mox. But that comment seemed to be the continuation of a theme.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Actually, I was thinking more of a couple of female UK posters, not Mox. But that comment seemed to be the continuation of a theme.

If you say now, that that is what you were thinking, now I believe you.

I have already pled guilty to snide remarks on occasion.

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[Empress of Groovy 373]

If you say now, that that is what you were thinking, now I believe you.

I have already pled guilty to snide remarks on occasion.

OK.