PARENTS APPLYING FOR TOURIST VISA TO ACCOMPANY MY 3 YEAR OLD KID WITH K2...

[islandnook23 3]

hi everyone.. just want to ask for some opinions,tips, ideas, inputs or whatever regarding our situation.. i came here on a k1 visa, AOS is currently pending.. my son will be having his k2 visa interview in a few days in manila (follow-to-join). original plan was to petition him when i become an LPR or USC so by then i will be stable enough and fully adjusted to my new life. but being a mom, i just couldn't take being away from him for years, at first i thought i could handle it, but i missed him terribly so we finally decided to have him as follow-to-join...

so assuming he got his visa on hand already, my parents are planning to accompany him here, but they still have to apply for tourist visas.. their main reasons for coming to america would be to accompany my child and to visit me and my sister, who is working as a physical therapist. my sister sent them an invitation letter saying she will be financing them on their trip since they don't really have fat bank acocunts... and i got one 30 year old single brother back in the philippines, my sister and i are both here in the US.. my sister and parents havent seen each other for 5 years now... either me or my sister can't go back home to the philippines yet coz i am having my review class for my NCLEX and AOS from k1 is pending and my sister's AOS from work visa is pending too (takes like forever...)... what are4 the chances of them being granted tourist visas?

so im hoping to get some helpful information or comments regarding this matter my fellow VJers. this community has helped me a lot from my i-129f journey, to my visa interview and to my AOS, practically everything!! definitely no need to spend thousands of dollars for hiring lawyers, everything is here...

:)

[danver 15]

hi everyone.. just want to ask for some opinions,tips, ideas, inputs or whatever regarding our situation.. i came here on a k1 visa, AOS is currently pending.. my son will be having his k2 visa interview in a few days in manila (follow-to-join). original plan was to petition him when i become an LPR or USC so by then i will be stable enough and fully adjusted to my new life. but being a mom, i just couldn't take being away from him for years, at first i thought i could handle it, but i missed him terribly so we finally decided to have him as follow-to-join...

so assuming he got his visa on hand already, my parents are planning to accompany him here, but they still have to apply for tourist visas.. their main reasons for coming to america would be to accompany my child and to visit me and my sister, who is working as a physical therapist. my sister sent them an invitation letter saying she will be financing them on their trip since they don't really have fat bank acocunts... and i got one 30 year old single brother back in the philippines, my sister and i are both here in the US.. my sister and parents havent seen each other for 5 years now... either me or my sister can't go back home to the philippines yet coz i am having my review class for my NCLEX and AOS from k1 is pending and my sister's AOS from work visa is pending too (takes like forever...)... what are4 the chances of them being granted tourist visas?

so im hoping to get some helpful information or comments regarding this matter my fellow VJers. this community has helped me a lot from my i-129f journey, to my visa interview and to my AOS, practically everything!! definitely no need to spend thousands of dollars for hiring lawyers, everything is here...

:)

Chances of getting a tourist visa is very small but u can try. Ur parents should have a very strong ties to the Philippines. There will be a lot of documents required for them to accompany ur daughter to travel to USA. Aside from the documents also would cost more.In my case what i did was as soon as my 2 kids got their visas on hand i just went home and they travel with me to USa..no more paper works, no more questions asked. That was the easiest than getting the risk in applying for a tourist visa. that's my two cents worth.

[Noah Lot 391]

hi everyone.. just want to ask for some opinions,tips, ideas, inputs or whatever regarding our situation.. i came here on a k1 visa, AOS is currently pending.. my son will be having his k2 visa interview in a few days in manila (follow-to-join). original plan was to petition him when i become an LPR or USC so by then i will be stable enough and fully adjusted to my new life. but being a mom, i just couldn't take being away from him for years, at first i thought i could handle it, but i missed him terribly so we finally decided to have him as follow-to-join...

so assuming he got his visa on hand already, my parents are planning to accompany him here, but they still have to apply for tourist visas.. their main reasons for coming to america would be to accompany my child and to visit me and my sister, who is working as a physical therapist. my sister sent them an invitation letter saying she will be financing them on their trip since they don't really have fat bank acocunts... and i got one 30 year old single brother back in the philippines, my sister and i are both here in the US.. my sister and parents havent seen each other for 5 years now... either me or my sister can't go back home to the philippines yet coz i am having my review class for my NCLEX and AOS from k1 is pending and my sister's AOS from work visa is pending too (takes like forever...)... what are4 the chances of them being granted tourist visas?

so im hoping to get some helpful information or comments regarding this matter my fellow VJers. this community has helped me a lot from my i-129f journey, to my visa interview and to my AOS, practically everything!! definitely no need to spend thousands of dollars for hiring lawyers, everything is here...

:)

this 'strategem' has been tried all too often...the first question the VO will ask is why the K2 didn't FTJ...a simple process which required almost no additional effort....then....the possible real reason will emerge...the 'oh gosh, I forgot my child' story....and then have other relatives apply for a tourist visa with the accompanying the minor as their reason...but....the reasons for going to the US do not matter (unless one was going to this country for the express purpose of robbing banks, for example)...what matters is the reason(s) for departure from the US.

[Harsh_77 718]

hi everyone.. just want to ask for some opinions,tips, ideas, inputs or whatever regarding our situation.. i came here on a k1 visa, AOS is currently pending.. my son will be having his k2 visa interview in a few days in manila (follow-to-join). original plan was to petition him when i become an LPR or USC so by then i will be stable enough and fully adjusted to my new life. but being a mom, i just couldn't take being away from him for years, at first i thought i could handle it, but i missed him terribly so we finally decided to have him as follow-to-join...

so assuming he got his visa on hand already, my parents are planning to accompany him here, but they still have to apply for tourist visas.. their main reasons for coming to america would be to accompany my child and to visit me and my sister, who is working as a physical therapist. my sister sent them an invitation letter saying she will be financing them on their trip since they don't really have fat bank acocunts... and i got one 30 year old single brother back in the philippines, my sister and i are both here in the US.. my sister and parents havent seen each other for 5 years now... either me or my sister can't go back home to the philippines yet coz i am having my review class for my NCLEX and AOS from k1 is pending and my sister's AOS from work visa is pending too (takes like forever...)... what are4 the chances of them being granted tourist visas?

so im hoping to get some helpful information or comments regarding this matter my fellow VJers. this community has helped me a lot from my i-129f journey, to my visa interview and to my AOS, practically everything!! definitely no need to spend thousands of dollars for hiring lawyers, everything is here...

:)

How old is your kid?

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

this 'strategem' has been tried all too often...the first question the VO will ask is why the K2 didn't FTJ...a simple process which required almost no additional effort....then....the possible real reason will emerge...the 'oh gosh, I forgot my child' story....and then have other relatives apply for a tourist visa with the accompanying the minor as their reason...but....the reasons for going to the US do not matter (unless one was going to this country for the express purpose of robbing banks, for example)...what matters is the reason(s) for departure from the US.

But the Child will be going the FTJ route so what the heck are you talking about?

The OP stated very clearly that her original plan was to petition for the child down the road but she's had a change of heart. Living apart from family isn't so uncommon in the Philippines, many OFWs do it for years so this temporary leavign the child with Lola & Lolo isn't so far-fetched as you make it sound.

I would suggest you refrain from implying the OP is attempting to commit immigration fraud.

[Noah Lot 391]

But the Child will be going the FTJ route so what the heck are you talking about?

The OP stated very clearly that her original plan was to petition for the child down the road but she's had a change of heart. Living apart from family isn't so uncommon in the Philippines, many OFWs do it for years so this temporary leavign the child with Lola & Lolo isn't so far-fetched as you make it sound.

I would suggest you refrain from implying the OP is attempting to commit immigration fraud.

the child does not need a separate petition process...the child could have easily FTJ'd when mom got her visa....or, she could just fly back to the PI and pick up her own child. So there is something missing, IMHO. And my statement stands....the reason for going to the US is irrelevant...it's the reason for returning that matters.

[islandnook23 3]

this 'strategem' has been tried all too often...the first question the VO will ask is why the K2 didn't FTJ...a simple process which required almost no additional effort....then....the possible real reason will emerge...the 'oh gosh, I forgot my child' story....and then have other relatives apply for a tourist visa with the accompanying the minor as their reason...but....the reasons for going to the US do not matter (unless one was going to this country for the express purpose of robbing banks, for example)...what matters is the reason(s) for departure from the US.

my child is going through the FTJ route. and i don't understand what you mean by that "oh gosh, i forgot my child" story. sarcasm doesn't help, just so you know.

[islandnook23 3]

But the Child will be going the FTJ route so what the heck are you talking about?

The OP stated very clearly that her original plan was to petition for the child down the road but she's had a change of heart. Living apart from family isn't so uncommon in the Philippines, many OFWs do it for years so this temporary leavign the child with Lola & Lolo isn't so far-fetched as you make it sound.

I would suggest you refrain from implying the OP is attempting to commit immigration fraud.

i guess he/she doesn't fully understand what i wrote. and i don't understand his response either.

How old is your kid?

he's turning 4 in a couple of months...

[islandnook23 3]

Chances of getting a tourist visa is very small but u can try. Ur parents should have a very strong ties to the Philippines. There will be a lot of documents required for them to accompany ur daughter to travel to USA. Aside from the documents also would cost more.In my case what i did was as soon as my 2 kids got their visas on hand i just went home and they travel with me to USa..no more paper works, no more questions asked. That was the easiest than getting the risk in applying for a tourist visa. that's my two cents worth.

thank you so much for your rely. :)

[Boiler 46,008]

Low.

But nothing to lose from trying.

As soon as you and your sister have AP you can visit.

Airlines are very good with unaccompanied small children so no problem there.

[aaron2020 11,651]

hi everyone.. just want to ask for some opinions,tips, ideas, inputs or whatever regarding our situation.. i came here on a k1 visa, AOS is currently pending.. my son will be having his k2 visa interview in a few days in manila (follow-to-join). original plan was to petition him when i become an LPR or USC so by then i will be stable enough and fully adjusted to my new life. but being a mom, i just couldn't take being away from him for years, at first i thought i could handle it, but i missed him terribly so we finally decided to have him as follow-to-join...

so assuming he got his visa on hand already, my parents are planning to accompany him here, but they still have to apply for tourist visas.. their main reasons for coming to america would be to accompany my child and to visit me and my sister, who is working as a physical therapist. my sister sent them an invitation letter saying she will be financing them on their trip since they don't really have fat bank acocunts... and i got one 30 year old single brother back in the philippines, my sister and i are both here in the US.. my sister and parents havent seen each other for 5 years now... either me or my sister can't go back home to the philippines yet coz i am having my review class for my NCLEX and AOS from k1 is pending and my sister's AOS from work visa is pending too (takes like forever...)... what are4 the chances of them being granted tourist visas?

so im hoping to get some helpful information or comments regarding this matter my fellow VJers. this community has helped me a lot from my i-129f journey, to my visa interview and to my AOS, practically everything!! definitely no need to spend thousands of dollars for hiring lawyers, everything is here...

:)

Your parents must qualify for visa on their own. It will depend on their ties to the Philippines. It will be up to your parents to provide proof to overcome the assumption that all visitor visa applicants have the intent to immigrate to the US.

The cynicism on this thread should not be taken lightly. If it's being brought up here, you can expect the Immigration Officer (IO) to have similar thoughts at your parents' visitor visa interviews. The IO may think that your parents will not return home after bringing your child to you. Given that your parents have two daughters who are seeking to adjust to legal permanent residents, it's not unreasonable for them to assume that bringing your child to you is a means for them to illegally immigrate to the US so the entire family will be reunited in America. While your 30 years old brother will be remaining in the Philippines, a 30 years old adult son who can probably manage on his own is not quite the familial relationships that shows their strong ties to the Philippines.

Your parents taking your child to the US may actually work against your parents getting visitor visas. Visitor visas for your parents are not absolutely necessary to get your child to the US. You (after you get AP) can go back and get them yourself.

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Your parents should absolutely try to get visitor visas. In addition to showing their strong ties, they need to overcome any concerns the IO may have. I believe it's better to be realistic and address concerns that may arise now rather then be surprised at the interview. Best of luck to them.

[Noah Lot 391]

Your parents must qualify for visa on their own. It will depend on their ties to the Philippines. It will be up to your parents to provide proof to overcome the assumption that all visitor visa applicants have the intent to immigrate to the US.

The cynicism on this thread should not be taken lightly. If it's being brought up here, you can expect the Immigration Officer (IO) to have similar thoughts at your parents' visitor visa interviews. The IO may think that your parents will not return home after bringing your child to you. Given that your parents have two daughters who are seeking to adjust to legal permanent residents, it's not unreasonable for them to assume that bringing your child to you is a means for them to illegally immigrate to the US so the entire family will be reunited in America. While your 30 years old brother will be remaining in the Philippines, a 30 years old adult son who can probably manage on his own is not quite the familial relationships that shows their strong ties to the Philippines.

Your parents taking your child to the US may actually work against your parents getting visitor visas. Visitor visas for your parents are not absolutely necessary to get your child to the US. You (after you get AP) can go back and get them yourself.

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Your parents should absolutely try to get visitor visas. In addition to showing their strong ties, they need to overcome any concerns the IO may have. I believe it's better to be realistic and address concerns that may arise now rather then be surprised at the interview. Best of luck to them.

Note that the OP asked for a variety of things, one of which was an opinion....which I gave....and which this last P reinforced. Sarcasm? No. An honest opinion of one possible downside for what may not appear to many as a logical conclusion...one that either the VO might have or the CPB official. why? Because this has been tried far too often. Some OPs might not like my opinions...but I am not making this stuff up just for entertainment. Thanks for listening.

[aaron2020 11,651]

this 'strategem' has been tried all too often...the first question the VO will ask is why the K2 didn't FTJ...a simple process which required almost no additional effort....then....the possible real reason will emerge...the 'oh gosh, I forgot my child' story....and then have other relatives apply for a tourist visa with the accompanying the minor as their reason...but....the reasons for going to the US do not matter (unless one was going to this country for the express purpose of robbing banks, for example)...what matters is the reason(s) for departure from the US.

Note that the OP asked for a variety of things, one of which was an opinion....which I gave....and which this last P reinforced. Sarcasm? No. An honest opinion of one possible downside for what may not appear to many as a logical conclusion...one that either the VO might have or the CPB official. why? Because this has been tried far too often. Some OPs might not like my opinions...but I am not making this stuff up just for entertainment. Thanks for listening.

In no way am I agreeing with you or the way you choose to post.

The OP asked what were her parents' chances of getting visitor visas to bring their grandchild to the OP. You start your reply by calling it a "strategem [that] has been tried all too often" and then a rant how it is all a scam in the most sarcastic of manners. Did the OP say anywhere that "Oh gosh, I forgot my child?" No. She explained that she was planning to send for him after she became stable in the US. Realizing that she missed him, she is now sending for him. You seem to assume that this was all preplanned and the most "obvious" situation. Wouldn't it have been better to reply that an IO may view it that cynically?

It's not what you say. It's how you say it.

[Boiler 46,008]

To be fair, with all the posts I have seen that does become the first thought.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

my son will be having his k2 visa interview in a few days in manila (follow-to-join). original plan was to petition him when i become an LPR or USC so by then i will be stable enough and fully adjusted to my new life.

the child does not need a separate petition process...the child could have easily FTJ'd when mom got her visa....or, she could just fly back to the PI and pick up her own child. So there is something missing, IMHO. And my statement stands....the reason for going to the US is irrelevant...it's the reason for returning that matters.

Note that the OP asked for a variety of things, one of which was an opinion....which I gave....and which this last P reinforced. Sarcasm? No. An honest opinion of one possible downside for what may not appear to many as a logical conclusion...one that either the VO might have or the CPB official. why? Because this has been tried far too often. Some OPs might not like my opinions...but I am not making this stuff up just for entertainment.

To be fair, with all the posts I have seen that does become the first thought.

I'll ask this of both of you, "Why the assumption that the OP is trying the sneak her parent to the US?"

The situation explained in her OP is very plausible for the Philippines. My wife lived and worked 4 hours from where Gabby (her son) lived for most of the first 18 months of his life. In the Philippines it's common for the parents to be off somewhere working to support their kid(s) while Lola and/or Lolo take care of the kid(s). This includes working in another country or on a ship.

If the OP uses some "ploy" or " stratagem" (which is just a $20 word for ploy) to bring a parent here just to go TNT (if you're so familiar with Filipino culture you'll understand the term) then she ruins the parent's chance of legally immigrating to the US in a few years after the OP naturalizes. Filipinos are capable of playing the long game too you know.

The "stratagem" post was just shy of accusing the OP of planning immigration fraud. If that wasn't your intent then maybe you should have said that it likely the CO would suspect such a scenario at the interview so they would really need a good case of strong ties. You are correct that the reason to come to the US is irrelevant if they can't demonstrate strong enough ties back home to ensure they'll return. One example of strong ties would be that Lolo will remain in the PH while Lola accompanies the small child.

Of course the OP's back-up plan should be for her to use Advanced Parole (if she applied for it) and pick her son up herself but I can understand her wanting Mom to visit during this time of adjustment.

If the US Embassy in Manila will approve a B VIsa for this I highly doubt they'd approve both parents.

Edited January 17, 2012 by Bob 4 Anna